The gas tank needs to be bigger on the Harvester models

[JoeSchmoe]

I'm really excited that Scout is finally making a proper EREV truck and suv for the American market. I think Ford and GM should have launched their EV trucks with an EREV option from the beginning. The primary use case of my current Honda Ridgeline is to tow a small 14ft ,~2000 pound camper. It gets around 25 mpg normally on the highway and about 10-12 towing the trailer. High speed plus the aero drag of a trailer causes terrible fuel economy. We have high speed limits out west up to 80mph so I usually have to go at least 70 to not be run off the road. It has a 20 gallon gas tank which means I can only realistically go about 170 miles between fill ups while towing without getting super nervous especially if the gas stations are 30+ miles apart in the middle of nowhere.

If the EREV Scouts are going to get around 150 miles of EV range then 350 miles on the 15 gallon tank, that equates to 23mpg which should end up with the same 10-12 mpg when towing at highway speeds. The 15 gallon tank is really going to be a problem for longer drives. Sure I'd get about 75 miles towing in EV mode from the battery, but after that, if I'm just relying on gas for the rest of the trip, I only have a towing range of ~150-180 miles. You don't want to run until empty and with gas stations 30+ miles apart that makes your realistic towing range between stops close to 120 miles. This range limitation is already annoying in my gas truck with a 20 gallon tank. It's going to be much worse with only a 15 gallon tank. Having the gas can option is nice, but for regular trips, I don't want to have to pull over and use the gas can on the side of the road. That should only be for emergencies or extended off grid camping trips.

Please make the gas tank 25 gallons or bigger for those of us that tow.

 

[BeerParty]

I can talk to the team to better clarify this. I reads fine to me, but I'm a bit too close to it.

The full battery electric vehicle gets a projected 350 miles of range.
The Harvester Range Extender gives you up to 150 miles of full battery electric range and range gets extended an additional 350 miles thanks to the onboard gasoline generator.

If you could get them to update the Scout web site to say this, that would be a great help. I keep correcting people online and they respond "look at this video" or "look at their web site". So if I could point them to the specific place on the web site where it has this explicit "up to" mileage for battery range of the Harvester, I could clear up a bunch of misinformation I see.

 

[BeerParty]

Yeah, but many people aren’t willing to give the Electric side of things a chance, running those lines Rex bmws without a single charge or buying a volt and never once charging it. But that misses the biggest selling point of EV to me, which is the convenience of refueling at home and the difference in fuel costs for gas and electric. Our volt since we’ve had it has only been to the gas twice and we’ve had it for a year and a half. It left a lot at half a tank. We stopped to top it off and then we refilled it a couple of months ago from a quarter tank.

There will always be people that think they know better and will do what they want. I say let them. It isn't my job to tell them what is the "right way" to do things. With the Scout Harvester, the people that do know how to take advantage of the battery for the majority of their driving but need the Harvester for their specific situation (even if that situation is range anxiety) can get one. If there are people that use it as a gas vehicle, you can console yourself with the knowledge that they are just hurting themselves (by spending more money on gas and maintenance then they need to).

 

[LonnyMacD]

From my view when I was deciding for my goals a couple of weeks ago I was looking at the SilveradoEV and Terra. There’s obviously a lot more out there about the SilveradoEV since it’s a production vehicle, but as I was looking at anything I could find, I was under the impression it was 350 battery for both BEV and Harvester and I was leaning harvester. But In a TFL video I heard the “150 Battery” mentioned wry casually and had to listen a couple of times, and referenced the site but it doesn’t seem very clear on the site. I ultimately prefer full BEV regardless, but when I was under the presumption it was 350 EV+150 Harvester I was willing to consider it for the times I would want to travel 500+ miles as quickly as possible for trails and camping with friends. However my daily mileage can easily exceed 150 miles that would mean running the harvester almost daily which would increase the chance for more maintenance needs and more fuel costs.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. I am one that is in the same position.

 

[bakdraft8231]

yes thought it was 350ev and 150gas harvester