Scout Pricing and State Rebate Programs

[oldgeeksguide]

So long as it’s modern Siam yellow I have no problem with that . But please push the brighter colors to start and save the neutrals since so many members are looking for modern takes on the retro colors

I keep reading that as “slam yellow”, which would be a really cool color name

 

[cyure]

Weve got receipts!
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Ha!

 

[Chavannigans]

Ha!

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

I said you *could* install one. Obviously, we engineer a vehicle to a certain standard, including the parts we put on it. At some point, if you replace those parts with something we didn't design or modify it to an extreme we can't warranty, then you take that risk. But nearly everyone who modifies a vehicle knows this going into it, and you ultimately have to decide if it is worth it or not. That said, I've watched people for years try and hide modifications or get angry when warranty is denied for something they did that no manufacturer would cover.

 

[Chavannigans]

That will still come down to policy.

Some brands/dealerships will void the entire powertrain warranty if you install a mild 2” lift. Which is very confusing because I thought the Magnuson-Moss Act put the onus on the manufacturer to prove the modification was directly responsible for the failure.

If the engine blows a head gasket, it is not because of the 2” lift so that is where things need to be clearly communicated to the customer upfront.

I wouldn’t expect an offroad focused vehicle to have a warranty policy that would deny coverage for unrelated modifications.

You are right though, some people abuse goodwill and policies of all kinds.

If I blow a CV shaft because I stuffed 37”s under a Terra and was bouncing on a hill climb, that’s on me. But if my car stops charging I don’t want to have fingers pointed at my tires or roof mounted disco ball.

 

[J Alynn]

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Fine print BABY!

 

[Oswald_CA]

To answer the question about deferring your order until you can get the configuration you want, that is the plan. But if you want to be first on the block, you might have to compromise on that front. There are a lot of details regarding ordering that are still being worked on, so let's see how things go.

Will planned future options (paint, roofs, bumpers ,accessories etc.) be shown when orders open with an estimated time frame for availability?

 

[cyure]

Will planned future options (paint, roofs, bumpers ,accessories etc.) be shown when orders open with an estimated time frame for availability?

Welcome to the community!

 

[J Alynn]

Will planned future options (paint, roofs, bumpers ,accessories etc.) be shown when orders open with an estimated time frame for availability?

Thanks for posting and sharing your thoughts!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

That will still come down to policy.

Some brands/dealerships will void the entire powertrain warranty if you install a mild 2” lift. Which is very confusing because I thought the Magnuson-Moss Act put the onus on the manufacturer to prove the modification was directly responsible for the failure.

If the engine blows a head gasket, it is not because of the 2” lift so that is where things need to be clearly communicated to the customer upfront.

I wouldn’t expect an offroad focused vehicle to have a warranty policy that would deny coverage for unrelated modifications.

You are right though, some people abuse goodwill and policies of all kinds.

If I blow a CV shaft because I stuffed 37”s under a Terra and was bouncing on a hill climb, that’s on me. But if my car stops charging I don’t want to have fingers pointed at my tires or roof mounted disco ball.

They claim to void the warranty, but it wouldn’t stand up in court. The problem is that very few people can afford to take a manufacturer or even dealer to court.

 

[Chavannigans]

They claim to void the warranty, but it wouldn’t stand up in court. The problem is that very few people can afford to take a manufacturer or even dealer to court.

Lemon Law court is not really a draw out process so legal fees are very reasonable if its an ongoing issue.

If its resistance from the start you may be facing a difficult path but it can pay off in the end.


The real issue is most people arent aware that in the pile of paperwork they sign when they buy a car lies an Arbitration Clause.

If you dont opt out you cant go to court. You agree to try to settle things with a 3rd party that is PAID by the Manufacturer.

Ask me how I know.

 

[dreamweaver]

Will planned future options (paint, roofs, bumpers ,accessories etc.) be shown when orders open with an estimated time frame for availability?

Manufactures in the past have labeled options "Late Availability" in the past. I don't think Scout would be any different.

Scout. “People. Connections. Community. Authenticity." Welcome to the Scout community. Enjoy the ride.
Remember the built in search on the forums is a great place to start getting answers to your many questions.

 

[david corey]

All I know is that I have time to save until then, to make the outstanding amount palatable for me. Keep in mind that the price has to be competitive with the competition to even garner interest, or Scout will be short lived.

 

[david corey]

If production is slated to begin late 2027, my guess is the first 200,000/250,000 pre-orders probably won't be fulfilled until early 2029. There will be ramp up and initial start-up hiccups what will impede productivity initially. .......I certainly hope not, but time will tell.

 

[J Alynn]

If production is slated to begin late 2027, my guess is the first 200,000/250,000 pre-orders probably won't be fulfilled until early 2029. There will be ramp up and initial start-up hiccups what will impede productivity initially. .......I certainly hope not, but time will tell.

I personally think you are way off on that number. I think start of production is for retail production and the engineering and demo models will be prior so I suspect there will be 20K delivered to buyers buy end of year 2027. May be limited production but I can’t imagine SM continually stating end of ‘27 and that being vehicles consumers can’t even get their hands on. Plant will likely be operational in next 9 months which gives Scout over a year to begin production on test models, etc… and starting fall of ‘27 which would allow for production of close to 10K by end of ‘27. But just my opinion

 

[david corey]

I personally think you are way off on that number. I think start of production is for retail production and the engineering and demo models will be prior so I suspect there will be 20K delivered to buyers buy end of year 2027. May be limited production but I can’t imagine SM continually stating end of ‘27 and that being vehicles consumers can’t even get their hands on. Plant will likely be operational in next 9 months which gives Scout over a year to begin production on test models, etc… and starting fall of ‘27 which would allow for production of close to 10K by end of ‘27. But just my opinion

I sure hope so!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

The best-selling EV pickup, the F-150 Lightning, has sold just under 100k units in the ~3.25 years since the first was delivered in 2022. Sales of Q4 2025 will probably bring that sum to 120-140k total sales. And it is built in a factory that was already configured to build F-150s.

I think that if Scout sells 20k units/year, they'll be doing really well.

 

[Mousehunter]

I watched a video earlier today, I think it was probably 2 weeks or so old though. Scout said a few things I was less than comfortable about. One was kind of condemning the current off road vehicle mentality (conquer nature - I really don't see how an off road vehicle company can condemn off road use unless they don't want to be an off road vehicle company). The other was relevant to this thread - that they were not going to prioritize the use of robots in their factory. Community focus is great, and it will probably lower the initial plant cost a bit - but it also indicates a higher per unit manufacturing cost and a slower planned vehicle output. Just seemed like bet hedging. Not fully automating will allow they to to cut fixed cost and allow them to deal with variable costs tied to demand. Sadly, it will also cause an increase per unit cost that will hurt demand in the long run.

For what it's worth, I watched a video a few months ago about VW troubles. A large part of it was their "community" focus. They absolutely did not want to streamline production at the expense of existing employee jobs. I guess that is all fine and good, till you stop being price competitive and start loosing sales. The other focus was the lack of a common core. The Rivian architecture is an attempt to address that problem.

 

[david corey]

If that becomes the case, VW will learn an expensive lesson and we'll just go somewhere else. For me, I'll go back Scout dumpster diving and resurrect an old Scout to keep mine company. I'll get nothing else.....well....maybe a late '30s IHC pickup to keep my '55 IH R100 restomod and '70 Scout company......OF out

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

I watched a video earlier today, I think it was probably 2 weeks or so old though. Scout said a few things I was less than comfortable about. One was kind of condemning the current off road vehicle mentality (conquer nature - I really don't see how an off road vehicle company can condemn off road use unless they don't want to be an off road vehicle company). The other was relevant to this thread - that they were not going to prioritize the use of robots in their factory. Community focus is great, and it will probably lower the initial plant cost a bit - but it also indicates a higher per unit manufacturing cost and a slower planned vehicle output. Just seemed like bet hedging. Not fully automating will allow they to to cut fixed cost and allow them to deal with variable costs tied to demand. Sadly, it will also cause an increase per unit cost that will hurt demand in the long run.

For what it's worth, I watched a video a few months ago about VW troubles. A large part of it was their "community" focus. They absolutely did not want to streamline production at the expense of existing employee jobs. I guess that is all fine and good, till you stop being price competitive and start loosing sales. The other focus was the lack of a common core. The Rivian architecture is an attempt to address that problem.

I wouldn’t read too much into a presentation given to a specific audience.