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[N Wilson]

Currently the inset bin is just there to show conceptually what frunk might be. Can’t rely on that currently to make a guess. Mainly there to make it look clean for demos and show a decent idea of what SM intends

I should have specified that I was referring to the plastic panel on @SpaceEVDriver Lightning, not the Scout.

He was trying to fit a fridge in the frunk of the Lightning and I had that idea as I looked at his pictures. It probably wouldn't give enough clearance though.

 

[cyure]

Currently the inset bin is just there to show conceptually what frunk might be. Can’t rely on that currently to make a guess. Mainly there to make it look clean for demos and show a decent idea of what SM intends

I think he means from @SpaceEVDriver Lightning frunk to fit his fridge.

 

[cyure]

I should have specified that I was referring to the plastic panel on @SpaceEVDriver Lightning, not the Scout.

He was trying to fit a fridge in the frunk of the Lightning and I had that idea as I looked at his pictures. It probably wouldn't give enough clearance though.

We must have been posting at the same time

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Removing the plastic inner panel on the underside of the frunk lid wouldn't give you enough clearance, would it? How thick is that plastic panel?

Less than an inch, it appears. Certainly not enough.

 

[J Alynn]

I should have specified that I was referring to the plastic panel on @SpaceEVDriver Lightning, not the Scout.

He was trying to fit a fridge in the frunk of the Lightning and I had that idea as I looked at his pictures. It probably wouldn't give enough clearance though.

Yeah-gotcha. I wasn’t thinking either. Makes sense

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

This is the sort of solution—other than a custom one—that would be great. Too bad National Luna is based in South Africa. The 60L is a bit too wide, but it might be workable in some way.

60L Drawer Refrigerator & Freezer - National Luna - South Africa

Get serious storage without the bulk. The National Luna 60L Single Compartment Drawer Fridge offers high-capacity cooling or freezing in a slimline form factor. Ideal for overlanders, touring rigs, and canopy drawer systems. NL Connect Bluetooth® app Built-in bottle opener Lockable...

www.nationalluna.com

 

[dreamweaver]

This is the sort of solution—other than a custom one—that would be great. Too bad National Luna is based in South Africa. The 60L is a bit too wide, but it might be workable in some way.

60L Drawer Refrigerator & Freezer - National Luna - South Africa

Get serious storage without the bulk. The National Luna 60L Single Compartment Drawer Fridge offers high-capacity cooling or freezing in a slimline form factor. Ideal for overlanders, touring rigs, and canopy drawer systems. NL Connect Bluetooth® app Built-in bottle opener Lockable...

www.nationalluna.com

Looks like they have quite a few places in NA that sell them. Two in Arizona.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Looks like they have quite a few places in NA that sell them. Two in Arizona.

I couldn’t find the drawer fridge version at those resellers. I might not have looked hard enough. I’ll double-check.

 

[dreamweaver]

I couldn’t find the drawer fridge version at those resellers. I might not have looked hard enough. I’ll double-check.

None of them stated they were a full line dealer. So maybe not.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

The way I want to do it—because I’m a glutton for new projects even though I have upity billion to complete already—is build a custom refrigerated box that drops into the frunk. I have an old fridge compressor from an old fridge that could do the job. Would need to muck with the controller board to make it work again.

 

[J Alynn]

The way I want to do it—because I’m a glutton for new projects even though I have upity billion to complete already—is build a custom refrigerated box that drops into the frunk. I have an old fridge compressor from an old fridge that could do the job. Would need to muck with the controller board to make it work again.

I saw a video earlier this year where the modified a honda civic trunk into an insulated cooler and installed a kegerator with the tap on top of the trunk. Wasn’t top level fit and finish but was funny to watch and worked quite nicely when it was completed

 

[BeerParty]

Different topic and a bit of whine from me. The Lightning has the largest, most useful frunk I’ve see in an EV available on the North American market.

But it’s about 3-4 inches too short to fit my ICECO VL60 Dual Zone fridge/freezer. Which is really quite a bummer. Sure, there’s space in the bed for it, but we’re hoping to do a long road/camping/travel trip next spring/summer and would like to sleep in the bed of the truck. The fridge would be in the way.

What are some possible solutions?

I can’t make the fridge smaller. The lids are only about 2 inches thick and putting smaller ones on would increase the energy cost.
There aren’t many low profile 50-60 liter fridges that I can find. The ICECO VL60 is 31.2”W x 19.5”D x 18.9”T.

The height of the frunk when closed is probably only about 15 inches.

I might have to get a smaller fridge. What a bummer. I really like this one.
Another option might be to install a swing-out fridge mount in the bed of the truck so it can be swung to be outside of the bed when we camp.
It won’t fit in the rear of the cabin even though there’s plenty of space if we could get it in there. The Lightning’s doors don’t open to 90 degrees and that makes the space just too small for the fridge.


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Too bad the space under the floor of the frunk of the F150 does not go all the way to the back of the frunk. It looks like the extra height that would give you is exactly what you need to fit that chest, and since the chest opens from the top you would need to worry about the front being below the bumper. How deep (front to back) is the frunk pocket and how deep is the chest? Maybe there is a way to use that space?

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Too bad the space under the floor of the frunk of the F150 does not go all the way to the back of the frunk. It looks like the extra height that would give you is exactly what you need to fit that chest, and since the chest opens from the top you would need to worry about the front being below the bumper. How deep (front to back) is the frunk pocket and how deep is the chest? Maybe there is a way to use that space?

Unfortunately there’s a pile of cooling hardware just under the frunk that makes that pocket limited in size. You’re right that if it was just 7 inches bigger front-to-back, it would be perfect. I might take another look under the frunk to see if it’s really as big as it could be.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Here’s someone’s post with the frunk removed. It looks like there’s not enough space. :/

Pictures with Frunk Removed - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

2022+ F-150 Lightning EV - Pictures with Frunk Removed - Good evening, everyone. I got curious and pulled out the frunk tonight so I could take a look underneath. A couple of thoughts: 1: The frunk is much heavier than I expected for a composite piece. This thing isn?t light, which makes sense...

www.ford-trucks.com

 

[Chavannigans]

This has been on my mind for a while.


What happens when you press the gas and brake in an EV at the same time?

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

This has been on my mind for a while.


What happens when you press the gas and brake in an EV at the same time?

By regulation and for safety reasons, the vehicle will not move or, if it’s moving already, it will stop. The brakes are required to be powerful enough to stop the vehicle even when full power is being applied to the motors. That’s part of the reason the brakes are so big on EVs and the wheels have to be bigger to accommodate the brakes.

Some vehicle give a drivetrain warning. Some do not.
My Lightning engages the electric motors as if it’s straining against the brakes. As soon as I release the brake, the vehicle leaps forward. It’s one way some of us think we might be getting ever-so-slightly better launch times and ever-so-slightly better 0-60. I’m not convinced we actually do, but it’s fun.

I haven’t tried it in the Mustang, but some people report a powertrain warning message instead of an engagement like with the Lightning.

I can’t tell you what it does in other EVs.

 

[Chavannigans]

By regulation and for safety reasons, the vehicle will not move or, if it’s moving already, it will stop. The brakes are required to be powerful enough to stop the vehicle even when full power is being applied to the motors. That’s part of the reason the brakes are so big on EVs and the wheels have to be bigger to accommodate the brakes.

Some vehicle give a drivetrain warning. Some do not.
My Lightning engages the electric motors as if it’s straining against the brakes. As soon as I release the brake, the vehicle leaps forward. It’s one way some of us think we might be getting ever-so-slightly better launch times and ever-so-slightly better 0-60. I’m not convinced we actually do, but it’s fun.

I haven’t tried it in the Mustang, but some people report a powertrain warning message instead of an engagement like with the Lightning.

I can’t tell you what it does in other EVs.

Very interesting.

Is it impossible to do a burnout? What happens if you disable traction control?

(Please dont break your truck for science I am just curious)

 

[Logan]

Unrelated to the current line of questioning (sorry).

My family just jumped aboard the EV train earlier than expected. With the federal tax credit going away, and some seriously massive incentives by manufacturers to move product before then, combined with the likelihood of tariffs and inflation driving up vehicle prices more over the next few years, we took the plunge.

We picked up our 2026 Hyundai Ioniq 9 yesterday. We got it for almost 25% off of MSRP. Enough of a discount that instead of paying a premium for an EV, it was actually a few thousand less than a similarly equipped Toyota Sienna/grand highlander.

Still pricy for my blood, but I’ve done the math 6 ways through Sunday, and even compared to used 3 row vehicle pricing, it’s not bad. We paid a few thousand more than the avg used 3 row vehicle with <60k miles on it. And the math shows that over 5 years, the “fueling” costs for the Ioniq 9 is between $6000 -$14000 cheaper if charging at home.

Anyway, we are still learning. But our PHEV experience was good enough we wanted a 3 row family vehicle. Although we did keep the PHEV for road trips for now. Maybe the scout will be a harvester for that purpose when it arrives. Or maybe we will be comfortable enough with EV’s by the time the scout comes out to get the BeV version. We will see.

These 2 vehicles are 29 model years apart!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Very interesting.

Is it impossible to do a burnout? What happens if you disable traction control?

(Please dont break your truck for science I am just curious)

I've never done one. I read about someone doing doughnuts in the snow whose Mustang then had a bunch of failures, but they weren't very forthcoming with all the details.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Unrelated to the current line of questioning (sorry).

My family just jumped aboard the EV train earlier than expected. With the federal tax credit going away, and some seriously massive incentives by manufacturers to move product before then, combined with the likelihood of tariffs and inflation driving up vehicle prices more over the next few years, we took the plunge.

We picked up our 2026 Hyundai Ioniq 9 yesterday. We got it for almost 25% off of MSRP. Enough of a discount that instead of paying a premium for an EV, it was actually a few thousand less than a similarly equipped Toyota Sienna/grand highlander.

Still pricy for my blood, but I’ve done the math 6 ways through Sunday, and even compared to used 3 row vehicle pricing, it’s not bad. We paid a few thousand more than the avg used 3 row vehicle with <60k miles on it. And the math shows that over 5 years, the “fueling” costs for the Ioniq 9 is between $6000 -$14000 cheaper if charging at home.

Anyway, we are still learning. But our PHEV experience was good enough we wanted a 3 row family vehicle. Although we did keep the PHEV for road trips for now. Maybe the scout will be a harvester for that purpose when it arrives. Or maybe we will be comfortable enough with EV’s by the time the scout comes out to get the BeV version. We will see.
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These 2 vehicles are 29 model years apart!

That's awesome! We need you to share your early experiences! The learning curve can be so different for different people and different uses.