What one thing would you like to see changed from concept to production?

[Isaac09]

I saw there is supposed to be a push button start/ stop and have a physical key. I drive my Tesla A LOT cross country and my favorite feature is there is no physical key needed unless you valet. The ability to just get in the car, put it in gear and go without having to turn it on is one of my favorite features. I also think this is smart due to not being able to really hear if the vehicle is running. If these two items are implemented it would be cool if the push start/stop it was an option to use and it was somewhat hidden (maybe under the dash). As far as a key, everyone does that not sure if you’re trying to be innovative that seems like a missed step.

 

[cyure]

I saw there is supposed to be a push button start/ stop and have a physical key. I drive my Tesla A LOT cross country and my favorite feature is there is no physical key needed unless you valet, and the ability to just in the car put it in gear and go without having to turn it on. I also think this is smart due to not being able to really hear if the vehicle is running. If these two items are implemented it would be cool if the push start/stop it was an option to use and it was somewhat hidden (maybe under the dash). As far as a key, everyone does that not sure if you’re trying to be innovative that seems like a missed step.

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[J Alynn]

I saw there is supposed to be a push button start/ stop and have a physical key. I drive my Tesla A LOT cross country and my favorite feature is there is no physical key needed unless you valet. The ability to just get in the car, put it in gear and go without having to turn it on is one of my favorite features. I also think this is smart due to not being able to really hear if the vehicle is running. If these two items are implemented it would be cool if the push start/stop it was an option to use and it was somewhat hidden (maybe under the dash). As far as a key, everyone does that not sure if you’re trying to be innovative that seems like a missed step.

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[J Alynn]

I saw there is supposed to be a push button start/ stop and have a physical key. I drive my Tesla A LOT cross country and my favorite feature is there is no physical key needed unless you valet. The ability to just get in the car, put it in gear and go without having to turn it on is one of my favorite features. I also think this is smart due to not being able to really hear if the vehicle is running. If these two items are implemented it would be cool if the push start/stop it was an option to use and it was somewhat hidden (maybe under the dash). As far as a key, everyone does that not sure if you’re trying to be innovative that seems like a missed step.

Interestingly it’s probably a 50/50 of those of us wanting at a minimum a key fob and the others just wanting to open and go. Good debates to read

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Interestingly it’s probably a 50/50 of those of us wanting at a minimum a key fob and the others just wanting to open and go. Good debates to read

Yeah, I don't think I'd ever be happy without a key fob.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

A rear mounted tire carrier makes it difficult for the hitch to be used for bike racks.

Who needs a spare tire when you’ve got bikes?

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Yeah, I don't think I'd ever be happy without a key fob.

We could have both!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

We could have both!

That's fine, but I wouldn't want a car that doesn't have a positive-action start. I can imagine a dozen or a thousand different ways for that to fail with disastrous results.

 

[J Alynn]

That's fine, but I wouldn't want a car that doesn't have a positive-action start. I can imagine a dozen or a thousand different ways for that to fail with disastrous results.

100% agree

 

[dreamweaver]

I saw there is supposed to be a push button start/ stop and have a physical key. I drive my Tesla A LOT cross country and my favorite feature is there is no physical key needed unless you valet. The ability to just get in the car, put it in gear and go without having to turn it on is one of my favorite features. I also think this is smart due to not being able to really hear if the vehicle is running. If these two items are implemented it would be cool if the push start/stop it was an option to use and it was somewhat hidden (maybe under the dash). As far as a key, everyone does that not sure if you’re trying to be innovative that seems like a missed step.

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[R1TVT]

Interestingly it’s probably a 50/50 of those of us wanting at a minimum a key fob and the others just wanting to open and go. Good debates to read

Just to clarify slightly - the "open and go" still requires some form of credential or handshake with the vehicle (could be a FOB) - the difference between an EV and ICE is there is a starter that needs to spin and an engine that needs to then fire-up in order for the vehicle to run (will be the same if running the Harvester, so maybe the Harvesters get a start/stop button). In an EV, there isn't an engine to start or anything mechanical per se that needs to happen (just a message that gets passed to the truck to WAKE UP!), so once the vehicle is unlocked, you are good to go. In my mind, a start button after completing a handshake with the vehicle with a valid credential and "waking it" is just another step. Same with a STOP button! Once you are in PARK and you exit the vehicle it locks. There is nothing to STOP...

The extra step of having to press a START button or a STOP button after waking it would be quite odd to me now, if I am being honest!

Whether it be a FOB, a phone, a key, a card, a wristband a code, a watch, a ring, your eyeball or fingerprint doesn't matter at all in an EV, as long as it is awakened by one of many possible means that passes the truck a valid credential...

 

[dreamweaver]

Just to clarify slightly - the "open and go" still requires some form of credential or handshake with the vehicle (could be a FOB) - the difference between an EV and ICE is there is a starter that needs to spin and an engine that needs to then fire-up in order for the vehicle to run (will be the same if running the Harvester, so maybe the Harvesters get a start/stop button). In an EV, there isn't an engine to start or anything mechanical per se that needs to happen (just a message that gets passed to the truck to WAKE UP!), so once the vehicle is unlocked, you are good to go. In my mind, a start button after completing a handshake with the vehicle with a valid credential and "waking it" is just another step. Same with a STOP button! Once you are in PARK and you exit the vehicle it locks. There is nothing to STOP...

The extra step of having to press a START button or a STOP button after waking it would be quite odd to me now, if I am being honest!

Whether it be a FOB, a phone, a key, a card, a wristband a code, a watch, a ring, your eyeball or fingerprint doesn't matter at all in an EV, as long as it is awakened by one of many possible means that passes the truck a valid credential...

So does an EV auto-lock everytime you leave the vehicle? Or only when you leave the vehicle with whatever was used to pass the valid credential? We don't currently own an EV.

 

[J Alynn]

Just to clarify slightly - the "open and go" still requires some form of credential or handshake with the vehicle (could be a FOB) - the difference between an EV and ICE is there is a starter that needs to spin and an engine that needs to then fire-up in order for the vehicle to run (will be the same if running the Harvester, so maybe the Harvesters get a start/stop button). In an EV, there isn't an engine to start or anything mechanical per se that needs to happen (just a message that gets passed to the truck to WAKE UP!), so once the vehicle is unlocked, you are good to go. In my mind, a start button after completing a handshake with the vehicle with a valid credential and "waking it" is just another step. Same with a STOP button! Once you are in PARK and you exit the vehicle it locks. There is nothing to STOP...

The extra step of having to press a START button or a STOP button after waking it would be quite odd to me now, if I am being honest!

Whether it be a FOB, a phone, a key, a card, a wristband a code, a watch, a ring, your eyeball or fingerprint doesn't matter at all in an EV, as long as it is awakened by one of many possible means that passes the truck a valid credential...

Understood. My only question is does SM really want to make 2 unique steering wheels or they just carry the button to both and it gets utilized. Maybe in the EV it’s a programmable push sequence like in movies . Like SOS pattern pushes. I wouldn’t want or need that but for folks in areas where theft seems much more prevalent maybe that’s what the button gets used for

 

[dreamweaver]

Understood. My only question is does SM really want to make 2 unique steering wheels or they just carry the button to both and it gets utilized. Maybe in the EV it’s a programmable push sequence like in movies . Like SOS pattern pushes. I wouldn’t want or need that but for folks in areas where theft seems much more prevalent maybe that’s what the button gets used for

I would like to see them eliminate the Start/Stop button even for Harvester. Even harvester vehicles primary means of propulsion is the 150 mile of range high voltage battery. Even at a very low charge the vehicle should function as an EV and then based on settings start the Harvester automatically and charge the battery and run the vehicle. If your using the Harvester for like camping, that should be a setting in the touchscreen.

 

[cyure]

I would like to see them eliminate the Start/Stop button even for Harvester. Even harvester vehicles primary means of propulsion is the 150 mile of range high voltage battery. Even at a very low charge the vehicle should function as an EV and then based on settings start the Harvester automatically and charge the battery and run the vehicle. If your using the Harvester for like camping, that should be a setting in the touchscreen.

The CES video back in January shows that there will be different settings for the Harvester. If I’m remembering correctly you could select EV only, Harvester only or let your Scout determine what to use.

 

[dreamweaver]

The CES video back in January shows that there will be different settings for the Harvester. If I’m remembering correctly you could select EV only, Harvester only or let your Scout determine what to use.

Yes. The discussion was more about eliminating the Start/Stop button. Unless I misread it.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Just to clarify slightly - the "open and go" still requires some form of credential or handshake with the vehicle (could be a FOB) - the difference between an EV and ICE is there is a starter that needs to spin and an engine that needs to then fire-up in order for the vehicle to run (will be the same if running the Harvester, so maybe the Harvesters get a start/stop button). In an EV, there isn't an engine to start or anything mechanical per se that needs to happen (just a message that gets passed to the truck to WAKE UP!), so once the vehicle is unlocked, you are good to go. In my mind, a start button after completing a handshake with the vehicle with a valid credential and "waking it" is just another step. Same with a STOP button! Once you are in PARK and you exit the vehicle it locks. There is nothing to STOP...

The extra step of having to press a START button or a STOP button after waking it would be quite odd to me now, if I am being honest!

Whether it be a FOB, a phone, a key, a card, a wristband a code, a watch, a ring, your eyeball or fingerprint doesn't matter at all in an EV, as long as it is awakened by one of many possible means that passes the truck a valid credential...

I don't want programmers in some office in SC or SFO to be guessing my intentions. Give me an action to indicate my intentions. Sitting in the seat with my key in the car isn't enough to indicate that I want the vehicle to go into driveability mode.

 

[THil08]

Peoples Attitudes on this forum. And for that matter, any forum relating Scout.

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[Chaz26]

I don't want programmers in some office in SC or SFO to be guessing my intentions. Give me an action to indicate my intentions. Sitting in the seat with my key in the car isn't enough to indicate that I want the vehicle to go into driveability mode.

I like how Tesla does it, vehicle wakes up when I open the door but isn't ready to drive. Once I put my foot on the brake then I can put it into gear and start driving. Once I put it in park that stops the driving mode and then when I get out it will auto turn off. I also have a setting to leave it unlocked at home since it's in my garage and it still powers off just fine (and I can manually lock it through the app if needed).

 

[dreamweaver]

I like how Tesla does it, vehicle wakes up when I open the door but isn't ready to drive. Once I put my foot on the brake then I can put it into gear and start driving. Once I put it in park that stops the driving mode and then when I get out it will auto turn off. I also have a setting to leave it unlocked at home since it's in my garage and it still powers off just fine (and I can manually lock it through the app if needed).

Never been in a Tesla. Do they have Lock/unlock buttons on the inside door panel as well?