What one thing would you like to see changed from concept to production?

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This is an interesting perspective!
You still need to back out of that space when you leave.
I guess it's just a question of whether you want to be annoyed parking or be annoyed leaving...
I mean, I’m annoyed all the time just so I don’t have to worry about choosing when to be annoyed. :) ;)
 
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This is an interesting perspective!
You still need to back out of that space when you leave.
I guess it's just a question of whether you want to be annoyed parking or be annoyed leaving...

I worked in automotive research for 41 years and the industry does surveys on every and anything. I remember seeing a fairly large survey of diverse participants that was about just this question. It found that a very large percentage of people have no problem with backing out of the garage or a parking space compared with backing into these spaces. Not sure what that says about us as a society.
 
I have a question. I have seen multiple posts like this and I understand the excitement behind it.

Im just curious, how often have you had to run your house from a generator, be it a gas powered or electric generator or your electric vehicle, and if/when you have had that happen how long was your power out that it required you to do that?

Just curious. Thanks!
I use my truck to power some parts of my home a couple of times a year, and I run various power tools around the ranch, but I don’t use the vehicle-to-home capability, I just use the bed outlets. The vehicle-to-home as emergency backup capability is more of a marketing scheme than realistic use-case—in my opinion.

Why do I say that? Because for any vehicle that does this, you also have to purchase a fair bit of hardware to provide the inverter and switchover capability. That runs some $10k to $20k in parts and labor. Then you have to have your vehicle plugged in when the power goes out. So if you’re away from home with the vehicle, it doesn’t do any good what-so-ever.

You’re better off getting a battery and inverter specifically for emergency power when the grid goes down. The cost is much lower, it doesn’t use your vehicle battery, and you have automatic failover even if you’re not home. If you’re on a utility that has peak usage charges or time of use, you can also shave that off by programming the inverter to pull from the battery. For example, we run our battery from 3 to 8 PM every day so we pull no power from the grid during the peak demand time from 4 to 7 PM. We have enough reserve capacity that with a little conservation we can run for a couple of days on just the battery.

Of course, the Lightning (without the extra hardware and installation labor) was cheaper than a whole home backup battery of the same size. We have a generic battery manufacturer (nearly all the batteries are made in the same one or two factories), but it was still expensive for the energy storage capacity.

All of that said, there are legitimate use cases for a larger, longer-term backup that one can get from the truck. In fact, one of the best use-cases I’ve seen is a pile of Lightning owners brought their vehicles to help with storm relief efforts in 2023 and 2024 by parking them and providing power where it was needed. A Lightning can provide a week or more of emergency power while still having enough energy to make it back to a charging station.
 
We run own entire home on solar power and backup Powerwall 3 & Powerwall 3 expansions and have to pay $25/months from our utility for the privilege of using them for backup, they don’t allow you to totally disconnect your home. In the short time we have had our system we have had two hurricanes that both cut off the grid for 4 days each and 6 other events cutting the grid 1-2 days each. The only way I knew about those shorter events is the App. Let me know the grid was down and that by design it had shut down our in-ground pool pump and Heater. We have fewer Powerwalls than in Chucchinchilla example. But it works for us in sunny Florida.
Nice. Yeah I would imagine very few people actually max out the expansions on the powerwall like I did with my example, but that was simply to give it enough juice to somewhat compare to the presumably large battery the Scout will come with.
 
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This is an interesting perspective!
You still need to back out of that space when you leave.
I guess it's just a question of whether you want to be annoyed parking or be annoyed leaving...
But you don’t have to thread a needle when backing out. When you’re backing in, it requires careful precision, either to get between two lines you can’t quite see, or to be extra careful to fit in between two vehicles. When backing out, it’s generally into a relatively wide open area, you just need to make sure you stop before you hit something, and don’t turn too sharp too soon. I find backing out much less stressful than backing in, though I do appreciate the skill involved in backing in and am trying to practice it when I’m not in the way of anyone.

Trust me, overthinking is my thing 😜
 
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I'd like to see physical headlight controls added from concept to production. In all the photos and videos I've seen, I could only find a physical button for auto day/night headlights. Hopefully the production models won't have the high/low beam, parking, and fog lamp controls hidden behind menu options in the infotainment screen like Chevy/GMC has done with the Colorado/Canyon and Equinox/Traverse. Someone please correct me if they saw physical headlight controls somewhere in the concepts.
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I'd like to see physical headlight controls added from concept to production. In all the photos and videos I've seen, I could only find a physical button for auto day/night headlights. Hopefully the production models won't have the high/low beam, parking, and fog lamp controls hidden behind menu options in the infotainment screen like Chevy/GMC has done with the Colorado/Canyon and Equinox/Traverse. Someone please correct me if they saw physical headlight controls somewhere in the concepts. View attachment 7942
I suspect controls may be on one of the two stalks on either side of the wheel. That’s where most controls are now a days
 
I suspect controls may be on one of the two stalks on either side of the wheel. That’s where most controls are now a days
Found an angle where it looks like the left salk is for windshield wipers, turn signal, and high beams. Right stock is for drive selection. No images I could dig up of physical switches for manual control of low beams, parking or fog lights.
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Found an angle where it looks like the left salk is for windshield wipers, turn signal, and high beams. Right stock is for drive selection. No images I could dig up of physical switches for manual control of low beams, parking or fog lights. View attachment 7945View attachment 7946
Interesting. Hadn’t dug that deep and apparently made a poor assumption 😀
 
240V outlet is available on Terra but not on Traveler. This is sad. I would like to see 240V outlet on Traveler as well. Even if it gets stuck in the frunk I'm okay with that as it would enable bi-directional charging and more importantly home emergency power.
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A 240V outlet would not enable bi-directional charging. Bi-directional charging only works via the EVSE connection - you can't put power into the truck through a 240V outlet.

You can use a 240V outlet in an EV as an emergency power source for your house. You can also use a 120V outlet in an EV as an emergency power source for your house. There are several YouTube videos of people doing this, if you are curious. But those are not examples of "bi-directional charging". To use the vehicle's outlet for emergency power, you would need a transfer switch tied into your home's electrical service. You would plug the truck into the transfer switch just like you would a gas or battery generator.*

Finally, lack of a 240V outlet would not exclude you from bi-directional charging (also called V2H). Bi-directional charging would be controlled by the EVSE equipment, and is supported now by several EVs. It will likely be supported by more EVs as the technology matures. For example, look up the Ford Charge Station Pro. That is the sort of equipment needed to support V2H with an EV. I don't know which EVs are supported, but I know that a 240V outlet is not required to use V2H.

* Transfer switches almost always need 240V split phase power, but you can provide backup power to your appliances via a 15amp 120V outlet by plugging your appliances in directly.