Harvester towing

[mbeadnell]

I would strongly suggest the harvester model towing more than 5k. This is going to be a deal breaker for most people and cause a lot of cancelled reservations. My opinion but I would not have announced something like this without all the details
In place to make a firm stance. This has created a lot of confusion and speculation and as a result many cancelled reservations. I would like to see the Terra at least able
To tow 7500 at minimum and the traveler at 5000k minimum. It makes no sense for both the tow the same with one able
To tow nearly 3k more on the pure ev models. This is just my suggestion. Keeping the price within the mentioned amount during announcement I hope is possible to have the towing range increased ( 7500 for Terra 5000 for traveler) that’s my suggestion and opinion.

 

[BartMan Terra Total EV]

I’m being facetious. I wish the Harvester didn’t ‘de-rate’ towing on the Terra from 10,000 lbs.

Gotcha. With the Harvester being behind the rear axel it is inevitable that both models will loose ratings compared to the total ev. It is what it is even though the "is" is not in stone. In my book the Scout is an off-road vehicle and should only worry about pulling an off-road trailer which shouldn't be any heavier then 6k gwr.

 

[Chaz26]

Just out of interest, has it been confirmed the Harvester towing capacity is the same for both the Traveller and Terra, or is there a chance the Terra Harvester could have a higher figure?

 

[BartMan Terra Total EV]

Just out of interest, has it been confirmed the Harvester towing capacity is the same for both the Traveller and Terra, or is there a chance the Terra Harvester could have a higher figure?

Nothing has been confirmed but my guess is the Terra harvester will have a higher towing capacity

 

[BartMan Terra Total EV]

I would strongly suggest the harvester model towing more than 5k. This is going to be a deal breaker for most people and cause a lot of cancelled reservations. My opinion but I would not have announced something like this without all the details
In place to make a firm stance. This has created a lot of confusion and speculation and as a result many cancelled reservations. I would like to see the Terra at least able
To tow 7500 at minimum and the traveler at 5000k minimum. It makes no sense for both the tow the same with one able
To tow nearly 3k more on the pure ev models. This is just my suggestion. Keeping the price within the mentioned amount during announcement I hope is possible to have the towing range increased ( 7500 for Terra 5000 for traveler) that’s my suggestion and opinion.

I am hopeful they can get to these numbers

 

[obiwantoby]

Derating towing with the harvester is a bit disappointing. I get there are compromises. Scout's brand ethos is refreshing and exciting. It probably isn't meant to compete with the Ramcharger at 16000lbs, but having at least 7500 - 10000 would be nice. Towing a moderate sized car as a goal would be great.

I'd wait to see the final numbers before cancelling a pre order but a truck that is only a truck in form and bed is a disappointment. However I understand that is probably a pretty large market, as most folks won't or will not tow their toys around.

 

[cyure]

Derating towing with the harvester is a bit disappointing. I get there are compromises. Scout's brand ethos is refreshing and exciting. It probably isn't meant to compete with the Ramcharger at 16000lbs, but having at least 7500 - 10000 would be nice. Towing a moderate sized car as a goal would be great.

I'd wait to see the final numbers before cancelling a pre order but a truck that is only a truck in form and bed is a disappointment. However I understand that is probably a pretty large market, as most folks won't or will not tow their toys around.

Welcome to the community!

 

[obiwantoby]

Welcome to the community!

Thank you, excited, didn't know forums existed.

 

[cyure]

Thank you, excited, didn't know forums existed.

Oh yes! I have only been here since the reveal but other have been here for 2-1/2 years. There’s lots of info and the search function is very helpful.

Additionally @Jamie@ScoutMotors is a great follow and keeps us updated on what’s going on at SM!

 

[J Alynn]

Derating towing with the harvester is a bit disappointing. I get there are compromises. Scout's brand ethos is refreshing and exciting. It probably isn't meant to compete with the Ramcharger at 16000lbs, but having at least 7500 - 10000 would be nice. Towing a moderate sized car as a goal would be great.

I'd wait to see the final numbers before cancelling a pre order but a truck that is only a truck in form and bed is a disappointment. However I understand that is probably a pretty large market, as most folks won't or will not tow their toys around.

Welcome to the forum!

 

[dreamweaver]

Derating towing with the harvester is a bit disappointing. I get there are compromises. Scout's brand ethos is refreshing and exciting. It probably isn't meant to compete with the Ramcharger at 16000lbs, but having at least 7500 - 10000 would be nice. Towing a moderate sized car as a goal would be great.

I'd wait to see the final numbers before cancelling a pre order but a truck that is only a truck in form and bed is a disappointment. However I understand that is probably a pretty large market, as most folks won't or will not tow their toys around.

Welcome to the Scout community.

 

[Jl737]

For now I am patiently waiting for final numbers to be published. I was pretty disappointed after watching the Jay Leno’s Garage preview. I like a pretty decent margin between my tow capacity and what I am towing. The Terra Harvester will have to be close to 10K tow rating or I will have to reluctantly cancel my reservation.

 

[Chuckles]

That's a great perspective. Thanks for the reply and advice.

I come from the Toyota world and have spent the past decade going to off-road rallys and events. I don't think I'm ready to give up having those capabilities yet. We live about an hour from Barnwell Mountain which is one of the best off-road parks in Texas. We go hit the trails once every few months and the kids love it.

We also have pretty bad weather here at times so the wife wants something that can still get us out of town even if highways aren't passable.

So the front and rear lockers, swaybar disconnect, factory 35" tires, fording depth and other features really speak to me and there aren't many similar options out there aside from the Lexus LX700h Overtrail, but that runs around $114k. I've had Land Cruisers before and both had over 330k miles when I sold them. They last forever and are remarkably capable. But that would hoover up most the budget short term.

The TRD Pro Sequoia is pretty rad but it needs around $10k in a lift and $5k in wheels and tires to be capable on the trail. There is no front sway bar disconnect and due to the design of its front differential, it cannot be fitted with a locker.

The new Pro4X Nissan Armada is another consideration. This is actually a historic vehicle because it's the first time the United States is getting the same Nissan Patrol platform the rest of the world gets. It however requires premium fuel and I'm not sure Nissan will be around in 5-6 years to warranty anything with the way things are currently going between them and Honda. There will be a huge aftermarket available for it though.

Maybe the Terra would be a better option. I think it would be less stressful than a Super Duty. I've had Tacoma's and Tundras as well as a few F150s so I'm not above the truck. Its just longer for the trails.

We could also try a smaller trailer like the MDC Robson XTT Dual Fold. I think it can sleep 8 but it's still pretty small and light. No AC but it does have several fans and a fridge for cold drinks.

We could go even smaller with something like the Moonlander X camper shell on the Terra. I think I could rig up a 12v AC in there and if the kids are with us we can put them in tents like we do already.

Moonlander X

The last-generation Nissan Armada was also based on the Patrol platform (but no off-road version). The first-gen was based on the Titan pickup. The new turbo Armada makes 25 fewer horsepower than the Infiniti version and runs fine on regular gas.

 

[BartMan Terra Total EV]

For now I am patiently waiting for final numbers to be published. I was pretty disappointed after watching the Jay Leno’s Garage preview. I like a pretty decent margin between my tow capacity and what I am towing. The Terra Harvester will have to be close to 10K tow rating or I will have to reluctantly cancel my reservation.

We will see what happens as I hope you don't have to cancel.

 

[KeithD]

I need 10k towing capacity for my use case. I tow frequently as well. Harvester will be a must for range. If towing capacity comes in substantially lower I’ll have to drop my reservation unfortunately. I’m still in the wait and see stage. They have a long way to go and a lot of details to come out.

 

[cyure]

I need 10k towing capacity for my use case. I tow frequently as well. Harvester will be a must for range. If towing capacity comes in substantially lower I’ll have to drop my reservation unfortunately. I’m still in the wait and see stage. They have a long way to go and a lot of details to come out.

Welcome to the community!

 

[dreamweaver]

I need 10k towing capacity for my use case. I tow frequently as well. Harvester will be a must for range. If towing capacity comes in substantially lower I’ll have to drop my reservation unfortunately. I’m still in the wait and see stage. They have a long way to go and a lot of details to come out.

Scout. “People. Connections. Community. Authenticity." Welcome to the Scout community. Enjoy the ride.

 

[BartMan Terra Total EV]

I need 10k towing capacity for my use case. I tow frequently as well. Harvester will be a must for range. If towing capacity comes in substantially lower I’ll have to drop my reservation unfortunately. I’m still in the wait and see stage. They have a long way to go and a lot of details to come out.

Hey Keith if you don't mind me asking what is the gvr of your trailer and the tongue weight when totally loaded? Also what is your current tow vehicle?

 

[Slipshod]

Ooooph. 5k isn't enough for me either. The whole reason I'm looking at a Scout is because of boondocking with a trailer. My current trailer is about 3400lbs, and my current TV handles 4500lbs. It's workable, but there's minimal margins and I can't upgrade to anything larger in the future. I've had this TV 10yrs, and I'm fully expecting the next TV to be the last one I buy (getting up there in years and don't think I'll be driving that much 20yrs from now).

7k is probably the minimum, otherwise I'll reluctantly start looking at alternatives.

 

[OH1984]

Ooooph. 5k isn't enough for me either. The whole reason I'm looking at a Scout is because of boondocking with a trailer. My current trailer is about 3400lbs, and my current TV handles 4500lbs. It's workable, but there's minimal margins and I can't upgrade to anything larger in the future. I've had this TV 10yrs, and I'm fully expecting the next TV to be the last one I buy (getting up there in years and don't think I'll be driving that much 20yrs from now).

7k is probably the minimum, otherwise I'll reluctantly start looking at alternatives.

I believe the Scout Terra is 10k lbs with the full EV version. Will have to see final specs but that’s a nice truck and charging infrastructure will hopefully be much better in 2-3 years. Idk if that’s what you are looking for but looks like a beautiful truck. The Traveler is 7k tow with EV.

 

[Slipshod]

I believe the Scout Terra is 10k lbs with the full EV version. Will have to see final specs but that’s a nice truck and charging infrastructure will hopefully be much better in 2-3 years. Idk if that’s what you are looking for but looks like a beautiful truck. The Traveler is 7k tow with EV.

Everyone complaining wants the Harvester version, not the EV version.

Towing with an EV is a non-starter. I'm not going to unhitch to charge every 200 miles.