Road Trip: Harvester vs EV vs Gas Hog

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So some of this is using Google Gemini, so take it for what it’s worth. The wife and I just did a 560 mile trip in one day, and it made me wonder how the gas hungry TRX would stack up against a Terra Harvester and a Terra EV. The trip took us 9 hours with two stops. So what follows is some Google help combined with real world data.

In the TRX we used 38.576 gallons at an average cost of $5.638 a gallon, we averaged 14.439 miles per gallon, and spent $217.50 on gas.

The Google Parts:
The Missoula, MT to Anacortes, WA route via I-90 W and I-5 N covers approximately 545–550 miles.
Comparing the travel time and operational cost between the Scout Terra EV (all-electric) and the Scout Terra Harvester(range-extended hybrid with a gas generator):

Key Powertrain & Efficiency Specs​


FeatureScout Terra EVScout Terra Harvester (EREV)
Powertrain SetupDual-motor All-ElectricAll-Electric drive + 4-cyl Gas Generator
Battery Size~120–140 kWh (estimated)Smaller battery (~150 mi pure EV range)
Gas TankN/A~15 gallons
Total Target RangeUp to 350 miles500+ miles total (150 mi EV + ~350 mi gas)
DC Fast ChargingUp to 350 kW (800V, NACS native)Up to 350 kW (800V, NACS native)

1. Travel Time Comparison​

Scout Terra Harvester​

  • Driving Time: ~8.5–9 hours
  • Stops: 1 quick stop
  • Total Time: ~8 hours 50 minutes – 9 hours 15 minutes
Breakdown:

  • Starting in Missoula with a full charge and a full tank gives you 500+ miles of range.
  • You can cover almost the entire 545-mile journey on your initial fill/charge.
  • You will only need one 10-to-15 minute stop (e.g., around Ellensburg or Cle Elum, WA) to splash 5–8 gallons of gas into the tank to guarantee reaching Anacortes comfortably.

Scout Terra EV​

  • Driving Time: ~8.5–9 hours
  • Charging Time: ~35–50 minutes total (2 fast-charging sessions)
  • Total Time: ~9 hours 20 minutes – 9 hours 50 minutes
Breakdown:

  • At highway speeds (70–75 mph across Snoqualmie Pass and eastern Washington), real-world range drops below the 350-mile EPA target (roughly ~270–290 miles usable at 80%–10% SoC intervals).
  • Stop 1: Coeur d'Alene, ID or Ritzville, WA (15–20 mins on a Tesla Supercharger / 350kW DC Fast Charger).
  • Stop 2: Ellensburg or Cle Elum, WA (15–25 mins to gain enough top-off for the mountain pass and I-5 traffic).

2. Fuel & Charging Cost Comparison​

(Assumptions: Starting with home-charged electricity at ~$0.12/kWh in MT; Public DC Fast Charging at ~$0.42–$0.48/kWh; Regular Unleaded Gas at ~$4.20/gal average across WA/MT).

Scout Terra Harvester Cost:​

  • Home Start Charge (150-mi EV range): ~$5.00 – $7.00
  • Gasoline Consumption: (~400 miles driven on gas at ~26–28 mpg = ~15 gallons) ≈ $60.00 – $65.00
  • Estimated Total Trip Cost: ~$65.00 – $72.00

Scout Terra EV Cost:​

  • Home Start Charge (Full Battery): ~$15.00 – $18.00
  • Public Fast Charging (Mid-route stops): ~100–120 kWh added at public chargers ≈ $45.00 – $55.00
  • Estimated Total Trip Cost: ~$60.00 – $73.00

Summary Direct Comparison​


MetricScout Terra HarvesterScout Terra EV
Total Travel Time~9 hours~9.5 hours
Required Fuel/Charge Stops1 quick gas splash (10 min)2 fast-charging stops (40 min total)
Trip Energy Cost~$65 – $72~$60 – $73
Key AdvantageFaster travel time; zero range anxiety crossing Snoqualmie PassLower routine maintenance; zero tailgate emissions
 
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A rough summary tells me the EV only version would be an hour ish longer than the Harvester version, but the cost between the two Scouts is the same. It also confirms what I already knew, that the TRX is a hungry fat bastard!
 
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My diesel F250 takes about $150 to fill these days (28 gallons at $5 - so maybe a bit more as $5 was a few weeks ago). I can get close to 450 miles on a tank (not towing). So the TRX is a thirsty beast - but so is my F250 at about $200 for that trip. Was supposed to go on an 1800 mile trip this week - seems cancelled. That was going to be expensive ($600 gas, plus 3 nights in hotels and 4 days eating out) - probably $1500-$2000 as half would be towing and then the mileage drops like a rock. Hard to guess how much, because it will be an extreamly light tow, with a fairly low wind drag cargo - a canoe on a jet ski trailer.
 
So some of this is using Google Gemini, so take it for what it’s worth. The wife and I just did a 560 mile trip in one day, and it made me wonder how the gas hungry TRX would stack up against a Terra Harvester and a Terra EV. The trip took us 9 hours with two stops. So what follows is some Google help combined with real world data.

In the TRX we used 38.576 gallons at an average cost of $5.638 a gallon, we averaged 14.439 miles per gallon, and spent $217.50 on gas.

The Google Parts:
The Missoula, MT to Anacortes, WA route via I-90 W and I-5 N covers approximately 545–550 miles.
Comparing the travel time and operational cost between the Scout Terra EV (all-electric) and the Scout Terra Harvester(range-extended hybrid with a gas generator):

Key Powertrain & Efficiency Specs​


FeatureScout Terra EVScout Terra Harvester (EREV)
Powertrain SetupDual-motor All-ElectricAll-Electric drive + 4-cyl Gas Generator
Battery Size~120–140 kWh (estimated)Smaller battery (~150 mi pure EV range)
Gas TankN/A~15 gallons
Total Target RangeUp to 350 miles500+ miles total (150 mi EV + ~350 mi gas)
DC Fast ChargingUp to 350 kW (800V, NACS native)Up to 350 kW (800V, NACS native)

1. Travel Time Comparison​

Scout Terra Harvester​

  • Driving Time: ~8.5–9 hours
  • Stops: 1 quick stop
  • Total Time: ~8 hours 50 minutes – 9 hours 15 minutes
Breakdown:

  • Starting in Missoula with a full charge and a full tank gives you 500+ miles of range.
  • You can cover almost the entire 545-mile journey on your initial fill/charge.
  • You will only need one 10-to-15 minute stop (e.g., around Ellensburg or Cle Elum, WA) to splash 5–8 gallons of gas into the tank to guarantee reaching Anacortes comfortably.

Scout Terra EV​

  • Driving Time: ~8.5–9 hours
  • Charging Time: ~35–50 minutes total (2 fast-charging sessions)
  • Total Time: ~9 hours 20 minutes – 9 hours 50 minutes
Breakdown:

  • At highway speeds (70–75 mph across Snoqualmie Pass and eastern Washington), real-world range drops below the 350-mile EPA target (roughly ~270–290 miles usable at 80%–10% SoC intervals).
  • Stop 1: Coeur d'Alene, ID or Ritzville, WA (15–20 mins on a Tesla Supercharger / 350kW DC Fast Charger).
  • Stop 2: Ellensburg or Cle Elum, WA (15–25 mins to gain enough top-off for the mountain pass and I-5 traffic).

2. Fuel & Charging Cost Comparison​

(Assumptions: Starting with home-charged electricity at ~$0.12/kWh in MT; Public DC Fast Charging at ~$0.42–$0.48/kWh; Regular Unleaded Gas at ~$4.20/gal average across WA/MT).

Scout Terra Harvester Cost:​

  • Home Start Charge (150-mi EV range): ~$5.00 – $7.00
  • Gasoline Consumption: (~400 miles driven on gas at ~26–28 mpg = ~15 gallons) ≈ $60.00 – $65.00
  • Estimated Total Trip Cost: ~$65.00 – $72.00

Scout Terra EV Cost:​

  • Home Start Charge (Full Battery): ~$15.00 – $18.00
  • Public Fast Charging (Mid-route stops): ~100–120 kWh added at public chargers ≈ $45.00 – $55.00
  • Estimated Total Trip Cost: ~$60.00 – $73.00

Summary Direct Comparison​


MetricScout Terra HarvesterScout Terra EV
Total Travel Time~9 hours~9.5 hours
Required Fuel/Charge Stops1 quick gas splash (10 min)2 fast-charging stops (40 min total)
Trip Energy Cost~$65 – $72~$60 – $73
Key AdvantageFaster travel time; zero range anxiety crossing Snoqualmie PassLower routine maintenance; zero tailgate emissions
Is there a pricing flaw here? The Terra EV is penalized for a full charge of the battery and all necessary recharging. The Terra harvester is charged for the initial batttery fill up and the 15 gallons of gas we assume the tank holds, but a stop is required to refuel so more gas is being added, say 5 gallons? that's another $25+ and good luck finding gas for $4.20. That's $1.40 less than your stated cost. I also doubt the harverster will take regular fuel which could impact the calculus. The trip delta if I'm reading this correctly is only 30-45 minutes and not a full hour. That said, charge stops tend to take longer than advertised because people tend to be more relaxed and not in a rush so they often charge more than is required. Interesting numbers though. Sorry if I am misinterpreting then info.
 
So some of this is using Google Gemini, so take it for what it’s worth. The wife and I just did a 560 mile trip in one day, and it made me wonder how the gas hungry TRX would stack up against a Terra Harvester and a Terra EV. The trip took us 9 hours with two stops. So what follows is some Google help combined with real world data.

In the TRX we used 38.576 gallons at an average cost of $5.638 a gallon, we averaged 14.439 miles per gallon, and spent $217.50 on gas.

The Google Parts:
The Missoula, MT to Anacortes, WA route via I-90 W and I-5 N covers approximately 545–550 miles.
Comparing the travel time and operational cost between the Scout Terra EV (all-electric) and the Scout Terra Harvester(range-extended hybrid with a gas generator):

Key Powertrain & Efficiency Specs​


FeatureScout Terra EVScout Terra Harvester (EREV)
Powertrain SetupDual-motor All-ElectricAll-Electric drive + 4-cyl Gas Generator
Battery Size~120–140 kWh (estimated)Smaller battery (~150 mi pure EV range)
Gas TankN/A~15 gallons
Total Target RangeUp to 350 miles500+ miles total (150 mi EV + ~350 mi gas)
DC Fast ChargingUp to 350 kW (800V, NACS native)Up to 350 kW (800V, NACS native)

1. Travel Time Comparison​

Scout Terra Harvester​

  • Driving Time: ~8.5–9 hours
  • Stops: 1 quick stop
  • Total Time: ~8 hours 50 minutes – 9 hours 15 minutes
Breakdown:

  • Starting in Missoula with a full charge and a full tank gives you 500+ miles of range.
  • You can cover almost the entire 545-mile journey on your initial fill/charge.
  • You will only need one 10-to-15 minute stop (e.g., around Ellensburg or Cle Elum, WA) to splash 5–8 gallons of gas into the tank to guarantee reaching Anacortes comfortably.

Scout Terra EV​

  • Driving Time: ~8.5–9 hours
  • Charging Time: ~35–50 minutes total (2 fast-charging sessions)
  • Total Time: ~9 hours 20 minutes – 9 hours 50 minutes
Breakdown:

  • At highway speeds (70–75 mph across Snoqualmie Pass and eastern Washington), real-world range drops below the 350-mile EPA target (roughly ~270–290 miles usable at 80%–10% SoC intervals).
  • Stop 1: Coeur d'Alene, ID or Ritzville, WA (15–20 mins on a Tesla Supercharger / 350kW DC Fast Charger).
  • Stop 2: Ellensburg or Cle Elum, WA (15–25 mins to gain enough top-off for the mountain pass and I-5 traffic).

2. Fuel & Charging Cost Comparison​

(Assumptions: Starting with home-charged electricity at ~$0.12/kWh in MT; Public DC Fast Charging at ~$0.42–$0.48/kWh; Regular Unleaded Gas at ~$4.20/gal average across WA/MT).

Scout Terra Harvester Cost:​

  • Home Start Charge (150-mi EV range): ~$5.00 – $7.00
  • Gasoline Consumption: (~400 miles driven on gas at ~26–28 mpg = ~15 gallons) ≈ $60.00 – $65.00
  • Estimated Total Trip Cost: ~$65.00 – $72.00

Scout Terra EV Cost:​

  • Home Start Charge (Full Battery): ~$15.00 – $18.00
  • Public Fast Charging (Mid-route stops): ~100–120 kWh added at public chargers ≈ $45.00 – $55.00
  • Estimated Total Trip Cost: ~$60.00 – $73.00

Summary Direct Comparison​


MetricScout Terra HarvesterScout Terra EV
Total Travel Time~9 hours~9.5 hours
Required Fuel/Charge Stops1 quick gas splash (10 min)2 fast-charging stops (40 min total)
Trip Energy Cost~$65 – $72~$60 – $73
Key AdvantageFaster travel time; zero range anxiety crossing Snoqualmie PassLower routine maintenance; zero tailgate emissions
I noticed you used a $0.12/kWh for home charging as your base line. For those who don't have EVs yet but will be getting the Scout (this applies equally to the Harvester and the BEV), or for those who have EVs but don't do this, install contact your local utility company and get on their EV charging plan!!!!! We have Xcel Energy here, but I understand most--if not all--utility companies have EV charging plans. You're going to get the best rate per kWh with that plan.

To give you an example, I only get charged $.04/kWh (rounded up) for my truck charging. Now there are some stipulations that come with that. One, you can only charge between midnight and 6:00 a.m., at that rate (you set the schedule on your charger, not your car. Setting it on your car means you can't charge during the day elsewhere like DCFC). Six hours is plenty, even with my huge Rivian battery. If you take it too low, jsut start it before you go to bed to still get most of the good rate. Two, for Xcel, you have to use a ChargePoint HomeFlex charger. Frankly, it's a great charger. Works perfectly. Only costs about $500-600. They use that one because it connects to WiFi so they can read your charger to charge you appropriately. Three, you need WiFi to connect the charger to. I guess you can also get a separate meter at your house, but that's thousands of dollars so the charger/WiFi is far more cost effective.
 
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