Higher Range

[ejwl]

I saw the expected range is 350 miles and up 500 with the range extender. I would be nice to have a higher base range like 400 or 450. The rivian r1s range is 410 and the lucid gravity range is estimated at 450. In order to keep up with the competition the amount of range should be matched or exceeded. 400 base range and 500 with the extender is a good start.

 

[cyure]

The big consideration (beyond capability) here is COST $$$$

Scout is designing a truck to a "projected" estimated range of 350 miles, and cost for that is an important variable since we have a pricing projection as well.

From Scout:

RANGE
Scout Motors estimates the Traveler™ SUV and Terra™ pickup will have up to 350 miles (563 km) of all-electric range or more than 500 miles (804 km) for gas-powered range extender-equipped versions. These are manufacturer's projected estimate based on internal targets. EPA estimates will be provided when available.

PRICING
Retail prices are targeted to start under $60,000 for both the Traveler™ SUV and Terra™ pickup. This pricing target is for U.S. market only and is subject to change. We'll be sharing more details about pricing as we get closer to production.

BATTERY
While final specifications for the production models have not been released, we expect the capacity of the battery packs to be in the ranges below:
Scout full-electric models: 120-130 kWh
Scout Harvester™ range extender models: 60-70 kWh
We’ll be sharing more details about battery sizes as we get closer to production. Stay tuned for updates.

Everything above is still subject to change, because there are NO FINAL SPEC's available, and until they are, we won't know anything. Its quite simple actually - if Scout settles on 350 miles as the EPA number, they may need to bump up the full-electric kWH in red to achieve that. That is what we will need to wait and see, and that is where the rubber will hit the road with all the testing that will be taking place.

In the meantime, if you want a super heavy truck with less capability than a Scout, but with longer range, it is going to cost you:



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$97,000!!

 

[Scout_Lookout]

The big consideration (beyond capability) here is COST $$$$

Scout is designing a truck to a "projected" estimated range of 350 miles, and cost for that is an important variable since we have a pricing projection as well.

From Scout:

RANGE
Scout Motors estimates the Traveler™ SUV and Terra™ pickup will have up to 350 miles (563 km) of all-electric range or more than 500 miles (804 km) for gas-powered range extender-equipped versions. These are manufacturer's projected estimate based on internal targets. EPA estimates will be provided when available.

PRICING
Retail prices are targeted to start under $60,000 for both the Traveler™ SUV and Terra™ pickup. This pricing target is for U.S. market only and is subject to change. We'll be sharing more details about pricing as we get closer to production.

BATTERY
While final specifications for the production models have not been released, we expect the capacity of the battery packs to be in the ranges below:
Scout full-electric models: 120-130 kWh
Scout Harvester™ range extender models: 60-70 kWh
We’ll be sharing more details about battery sizes as we get closer to production. Stay tuned for updates.

Everything above is still subject to change, because there are NO FINAL SPEC's available, and until they are, we won't know anything. Its quite simple actually - if Scout settles on 350 miles as the EPA number, they may need to bump up the full-electric kWH in red to achieve that TBD but likely to move upward a little). That is what we will need to wait and see, and that is where the rubber will hit the road with all the testing that will be taking place.

In the meantime, if you want a super heavy truck with less capability than a Scout, but with longer range, it is going to cost you:



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Only thing you forgot was the "mic drop"

 

[J Alynn]

$97,000!!

For a Chevy

 

[Chaz26]

Shows the price of the battery, looking at their website now, LT Standard Range (283 miles) is showing at $63,495, LT Extended Range is at $71,695 (410 miles) LT max range is at $91,795 (478 miles).

 

[Mousehunter]

Shows what they think they can ask for the battery. Cells themselves have come down a LOT. Last I looked, the cheapest Lithium for home backup was about 15kwh for $2k. So sure the entire pack is still expensive - but 30k more for extended range, not so much. The Silverado has 119, 170, and 205kwh packs. The $8k for 51kwh more battery is fair enough (it would get you 60kwh with just cells). The $20k for another 35 is mostly market segmentation with the extra trim level just to order it, not just the battery addition - and is still quite steep.

 

[Logan]

Saw this yesterday, seemed relevant.

https://insideevs.com/news/790449/epa-range-estimation-test-results/

Looks like about as many brands under report, as over-report their EPA range. And given, this is based on a 70mph highway range test (not mixed like EPA). Although, I don't think they were all done at the same time (which means weather could change things too).

 

[R1TVT]

"Brand" is pretty broad in my mind...

Very hard to tell what was aggregated underneath each "brand" - what models did they test? model year, tires, wheels, drive trains, battery packs? Hard to say looking at a brand chart.

This is an example of a better perspective when considering range data relative to a test result (because it actually denotes the Model & Year) and provides additional context in the write up:

10 EVs with More Range than Advertised in Real World Tests

Are you shopping for an electric vehicle this season? These models can help ease your range anxiety.

www.autoweek.com

 

[Logan]

"Brand" is pretty broad in my mind...

Very hard to tell what was aggregated underneath each "brand" - what models did they test? model year, tires, wheels, drive trains, battery packs? Hard to say looking at a brand chart.

This is an example of a better perspective when considering range data relative to a test result (because it actually denotes the Model & Year) and provides additional context in the write up:

10 EVs with More Range than Advertised in Real World Tests

Are you shopping for an electric vehicle this season? These models can help ease your range anxiety.

www.autoweek.com

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The link has more details broken down, but I couldn't embed it.

Here is a screenshot though.

 

[R1TVT]

Remember - these rags all have biases too... I would take all of this data with a grain of salt and consider sources and do much more exhaustive research if you don't know actual owners that can verify claims made by OEM's. Of course with Scout, we will be beholden to trusting 3rd parties. The best one I have found personally is Edmunds for car stuff.