What is one feature you hope Scout will include that has not yet been shown?

[OH1984]

Interior lock box or safe, glove box, or under seat option for the console to keep valuables and other items secure.

 

[cyure]

Top speed of 120ish on Scout I think is acceptable. It’s not really a vehicle you’re going to bring to the track.
I just hope it doesn’t sound or feel like it’s struggling at 80.
Have you hit 155 off track? For more than seeing if it could

I have not. The fastest I have gone is 110. My husband I think 115 to 120. But again for brief periods of time when no one is around.

 

[Hedrock]

I have a question. What do we think the top speed of the Scout will be? Our Supra is limited by the factory to 155 mph. This is a much larger vehicle. I just don’t think it needs to be able to go that fast, but that’s just me.

What does everyone think? How fast can a Rivian go?

I had a diesel Touareg that was plushly quiet and comfortable up to about 120. 135 was the highest I got, but you could tell the engine was working for it. This had 18s and some quality all-seasons, don’t remember the speed rating. I think I recall some of the Cayennes being capable of >165.

Most all terrains aren’t rated for those speeds, especially for something as (presumably) heavy as an EV or EREV of the Scout’s size. Typically you’ll see 105 or 110 as the max tire rating for these tires.

I’d bet it will have the power to go above 130, but idk how gearing works for the top end in EVs (paging @SpaceEVDriver who I assume can fill in the gap).

Either way, 120 is more than I’ll ever take my Scout…I assume.

 

[OH1984]

Top speed of 120ish on Scout I think is acceptable. It’s not really a vehicle you’re going to bring to the track.
I just hope it doesn’t sound or feel like it’s struggling at 80.
Have you hit 155 off track? For more than seeing if it could

Since it’s an EV you likely won’t hear the sound at all. Tesla even though a car makes the whirring noise below 15 mph for security in backing up but it gets from 0-ridiculous with zero sound. Since scout is estimated 0-60 in less than 3.5 seconds you won’t hear it even at max speed I bet. Even with the harvester since that’s just generating power to the battery and not actually providing thrust I wouldn’t think it will strain at all.

 

[OH1984]

I had a diesel Touareg that was plushly quiet and comfortable up to about 120. 135 was the highest I got, but you could tell the engine was working for it. This had 18s and some quality all-seasons, don’t remember the speed rating. I think I recall some of the Cayennes being capable of >165.

Most all terrains aren’t rated for those speeds, especially for something as (presumably) heavy as an EV or EREV of the Scout’s size. Typically you’ll see 105 or 110 as the max tire rating for these tires.

I’d bet it will have the power to go above 130, but idk how gearing works for the top end in EVs (paging @SpaceEVDriver who I assume can fill in the gap).

Either way, 120 is more than I’ll ever take my Scout…I assume.

There are no traditional gears in an EV it’s just instant ramp.

 

[Hedrock]

Since it’s an EV you likely won’t hear the sound at all. Tesla even though a car makes the whirring noise below 15 mph for security in backing up but it gets from 0-ridiculous with zero sound. Since scout is estimated 0-60 in less than 3.5 seconds you won’t hear it even at max speed I bet. Even with the harvester since that’s just generating power to the battery and not actually providing thrust I wouldn’t think it will strain at all.

I’d bet the wind noise will be significant

 

[OH1984]

I’d bet the wind noise will be significant

Yes definitely that and depending on if you have the cabana top or solid

 

[R1TVT]

I’d bet the wind noise will be significant

And tires... Noise from the motors will be inconsequential.

 

[OH1984]

And tires... Noise from the motors will be inconsequential.

35” tires on the Bronco was a roar but with the hard top it wasn’t horrible lol. I agree not at all like the perelli zero, even then with different types of road sometimes still loud.

 

[cyure]

35” tires on the Bronco was a roar but with the hard top it wasn’t horrible lol. I agree not at all like the perelli zero, even then with different types of road sometimes still loud.

I really don’t know what to expect in my Scout. I have 33” DuraTracs but can’t hear the tire noise over the wind noise from my Clear Lidz. I love that thing but boy is it noisy. I just turn up the radio real loud to drown it all out.

 

[OH1984]

I really don’t know what to expect in my Scout. I have 33” DuraTracs but can’t hear the tire noise over the wind noise from my Clear Lidz. I love that thing but boy is it noisy. I just turn up the radio real loud to drown it all out.

Yes! I love music and radio for this reason. Was like my Harley street glide had loud Vance and Hines pipes but would turn up my stereo to hear it also. I’m sure it was obnoxious to others but I never sat and revved it at least

 

[dreamweaver]

I really don’t know what to expect in my Scout. I have 33” DuraTracs but can’t hear the tire noise over the wind noise from my Clear Lidz. I love that thing but boy is it noisy. I just turn up the radio real loud to drown it all out.

You keep doing that and eventually you won't hear that either. Problem solved.

 

[Hedrock]

You keep doing that and eventually you won't hear that either. Problem solved.

Yeah, see that’s my problem after driving heavy equipment and working in machine shops as a teenager

Certainly the firearms and diesel truck (with similarly cranked up music) didn’t help either…

 

[cyure]

You keep doing that and eventually you won't hear that either. Problem solved.

I still have bat like hearing thankfully. Every other week my husband is on call for work and the iPhone dings every time a message comes through. The other night I told him your phone it out there going off like crazy something must be up. He didn’t hear a thing.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Most production vehicles these days are software limited on top speed, not hardware. This is definitely true of most EVs.

I don’t know of a production EV with a true direct-drive system. There’s usually an unchangeable gear reduction in the electric motor assembly. The motors—depending on design—can spin at thousands to tens of thousands of RPM. I’ve recorded my Lightning’s motors spin at above 6000 RPM. I’ve measured my Mustang’s motor speed up to about 9500 RPM (at a speed of about 90 mph). On the Lightning, a 33" diameter tire rotating at 6k RPM would cover ~10 miles per minute, or about 600 mph. Obviously that’s not reality, so there has to be a reduction gear in the system.

You do hear road noises. In fact, despite the lower overall volume of noise, some people complain about the road noise because it's not masked by the engine noise. On some EVs, you can hear motor whine, but that’s usually not ideal and it’s usually at very low speeds. I’ve only heard it at those low speeds (<30 mph). The reduction gear does create noise, but in a well-designed, precision-engineered and precision-manufactured motor assembly, you won’t hear it without removing all the other noises. Any noise from the motors indicates a loss of efficiency and the engineers are going to want to eliminate that.

The Lightning is software-governed to a top speed of 111 mph. The Mustang is governed to 115-125 mph, depending on trim.
I’m happy with those limits. As a stupid kid, I used to try to go as fast as possible. I lucked out and never hurt anyone...

I think Scout Motors will limit top speeds to around 110-120 mph. My guess is that they want to dominate the low-end torque conversation so they’ll have a big reduction gear on their motor assembly. With a big reduction gear, they’ll face the issue that to reach higher vehicle speeds, they’ll have to spin the motors very, very fast. At too high of an RPM, the motor longevity and reliability will be compromised.

 

[cyure]

Most production vehicles these days are software limited on top speed, not hardware. This is definitely true of most EVs.

I don’t know of a production EV with a true direct-drive system. There’s usually an unchangeable gear reduction in the electric motor assembly. The motors—depending on design—can spin at thousands to tens of thousands of RPM. I’ve recorded my Lightning’s motors spin at above 6000 RPM. I’ve measured my Mustang’s motor speed up to about 9500 RPM (at a speed of about 90 mph). On the Lightning, a 33" diameter tire rotating at 6k RPM would cover ~10 miles per minute, or about 600 mph. Obviously that’s not reality, so there has to be a reduction gear in the system.

You do hear road noises. In fact, despite the lower overall volume of noise, some people complain about the road noise because it's not masked by the engine noise. On some EVs, you can hear motor whine, but that’s usually not ideal and it’s usually at very low speeds. I’ve only heard it at those low speeds (<30 mph). The reduction gear does create noise, but in a well-designed, precision-engineered and precision-manufactured motor assembly, you won’t hear it without removing all the other noises. Any noise from the motors indicates a loss of efficiency and the engineers are going to want to eliminate that.

The Lightning is software-governed to a top speed of 111 mph. The Mustang is governed to 115-125 mph, depending on trim.
I’m happy with those limits. As a stupid kid, I used to try to go as fast as possible. I lucked out and never hurt anyone...

I think Scout Motors will limit top speeds to around 110-120 mph. My guess is that they want to dominate the low-end torque conversation so they’ll have a big reduction gear on their motor assembly. With a big reduction gear, they’ll face the issue that to reach higher vehicle speeds, they’ll have to spin the motors very, very fast. At too high of an RPM, the motor longevity and reliability will be compromised.

Thanks as always for the education.

My Jeep spedo tops out at 100. Typically I don’t go over 80 in that car. I imagine it will be the same in my Scout.

 

[dreamweaver]

Thanks as always for the education.

My Jeep spedo tops out at 100. Typically I don’t go over 80 in that car. I imagine it will be the same in my Scout.

My Lincoln tops out at 140. No I won't be testing this.

 

[Coyle70]

Since it’s an EV you likely won’t hear the sound at all. Tesla even though a car makes the whirring noise below 15 mph for security in backing up but it gets from 0-ridiculous with zero sound. Since scout is estimated 0-60 in less than 3.5 seconds you won’t hear it even at max speed I bet. Even with the harvester since that’s just generating power to the battery and not actually providing thrust I wouldn’t think it will strain at all.

Okay correction not “sounds like”. I hope it doesn’t Feel like it’s straining