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[Logan]

While I don't disagree with your point, you left off the cost when DCFC:

• 2026 Hyundai Ioniq 9 (DCFC at $0.50 per kWh and 3.3 miles/kwh): $15.15

Totally true, you're right.

We've never DCFC'd, so it literally didn't come to mind .

Given, we have under 1000 miles on it so far.

To be blunt, I think if we were on the "open road" on a road trip it would be even worse than that. I'd expect more like 2.5 - 2.9miles/kwh at the highway speeds of 70-80mph (the posted speed limits between here and Utah where we travel every summer).

Using 2.7 miles/kwh the math works out to $18.51 for the Ioniq.

Even with the lower mpg the Tucson gets at those speeds (27-31mpg, at 85mph, with a bike on the back), it is likely it would be cheaper than the Ioniq (looks like ~$14-15, maybe lower as Idaho and UT have cheap gas in comparison to WA).

 

[BeerParty]

Totally true, you're right.

We've never DCFC'd, so it literally didn't come to mind .

I am planning a long road trip starting on Friday (the 10th) so will be doing a lot of DCFC over the next two weeks. That's the only reason it came to mind.

Given, we have under 1000 miles on it so far.

To be blunt, I think if we were on the "open road" on a road trip it would be even worse than that. I'd expect more like 2.5 - 2.9miles/kwh at the highway speeds of 70-80mph (the posted speed limits between here and Utah where we travel every summer).

Using 2.7 miles/kwh the math works out to $18.51 for the Ioniq.

Even with the lower mpg the Tucson gets at those speeds (27-31mpg, at 85mph, with a bike on the back), it is likely it would be cheaper than the Ioniq (looks like ~$14-15, maybe lower as Idaho and UT have cheap gas in comparison to WA).

It would also vary depending on the DCFC costs. While $0.50 per kWh is close to the national average right now, I picked it because it made the math easier . But, considering how little I DCFC, it does not skew the results. The average fuel costs for an EV are much lower than even the most efficient hybrids. But including that number should help ward off the spreaders of FUD.

 

[Logan]

I am planning a long road trip starting on Friday (the 10th) so will be doing a lot of DCFC over the next two weeks. That's the only reason it came to mind.



It would also vary depending on the DCFC costs. While $0.50 per kWh is close to the national average right now, I picked it because it made the math easier . But, considering how little I DCFC, it does not skew the results. The average fuel costs for an EV are much lower than even the most efficient hybrids. But including that number should help ward off the spreaders of FUD.

I lose track here.

What EV do you have, and how big of a trip are you planning?

And what are you using for your planning?

I've got Hyundai Pay setup (which does plug and charge for a few networks, and app compatability with a few others, so its sort of a one stop shop for "probably a majority" of charging things I'm likely to see on the road). And I've been looking at using a better route planner (free version), and plugshare to get a basic idea of things.

My first road trip with mine will be in about a month... but looking at the planning... I won't need to public charge. Its like 100-110 miles one way. And we have 320 miles of range (EPA). ABRP is showing returning home with ~20-30%, depending on what numbers I throw at it for efficiency and temps/etc.

Someday we'll fast charge .

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

I only get 13 mpg in my Wrangler so those numbers look amazing to me!

Yeah I only get about 17 with my Highlander, so this definitely looks good.

 

[BeerParty]

What EV do you have, and how big of a trip are you planning?

And what are you using for your planning?

I have a 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5. I am traveling from Milford, New Hampshire to Biloxi, Mississippi with a stop along the way to pickup family in Belfast, Tennessee. Without including stops that is about 1,500 miles (or about 2,400km) one way.

I use ABRP to plan the trip. Since I still have free Electrify America access, I set up ABRP to plan the route to prioritize the Electrify America stops. The trip includes nine charging stops along the way. I plan stops at hotels that advertise charging, but I don't depend on them. Sometimes their ads are not accurate or the chargers are not available. So I include DCFC chargers near the hotels in the plan.

While I don't have to pay for the DCFC, I get EA emails for each session that includes what the sessions would cost if I did not have the free access. So I know what DCFC will cost me when my free access ends.

 

[J Alynn]

I have a 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5. I am traveling from Milford, New Hampshire to Biloxi, Mississippi with a stop along the way to pickup family in Belfast, Tennessee. Without including stops that is about 1,500 miles (or about 2,400km) one way.

I use ABRP to plan the trip. Since I still have free Electrify America access, I set up ABRP to plan the route to prioritize the Electrify America stops. The trip includes nine charging stops along the way. I plan stops at hotels that advertise charging, but I don't depend on them. Sometimes their ads are not accurate or the chargers are not available. So I include DCFC chargers near the hotels in the plan.

While I don't have to pay for the DCFC, I get EA emails for each session that includes what the sessions would cost if I did not have the free access. So I know what DCFC will cost me when my free access ends.

That’s pretty cool that EA does that to help understand your free use prior to paid use. Very cool