Good stuff R1TVT (thanks)! I'm curious to see what others in this boat do while waiting for the Terra. Our rig is the closest thing, and gen 1 vehicles are a good deal right now. 
Shopping for a “new” BEV while waiting for the Scout Traveler BEV.
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This is shocking to me. This implies that Rivian is doing a LOT of traction control interventions. I am really curious to know if this is normal or something unique to your rig or driving style. My MXP is tri-motor so it can adjust power left-right on the rear using power and not brakes. I'm at 70k miles and the brakes look brand new. My wife's MS is dual motor with open diffs so it has to use the brakes for traction control but at 90k miles the brakes also look brand new.
I was thinking the same thing, especially with a lot of highway miles. Even on an ICE vehicle, I'll rarely get less than 100k miles out of brakes with virtually no highway driving.
I'm hardly shocked based on the roads I drive, grit, gravel and road salt all over New England / freeze thaw / deep mud ruts. I think a lot of brake wear here are more environmental than anything, but YMMV. The truck is also heavy.
I will admit I must be shallow. I can not get over the looks of virtually every EV on the market. The designers and marketing team think they are doing the right thing - but looks screaming EV makes me want to puke. Rivian might be a perfectly capable EV - which I will not consider purchasing for a second due to looks and disgust. Honestly, at least the Cybertruck is ugly enough I want to laugh rather than puke. I actually tried to consider it - but it is not what I want either.
It’s fair but it’s also purely personal taste, I actually like the look of Rivian (mostly) but 90% of my friends don’t and that’s fine but what makes an EV look? I know the expedition or Santa Fe have cross lighting that at night evokes “EV” is it the lack of grill, that’s just something to adjust to. I know Rivians pill lights can be a bit much to some, the worst part of Rivians design is the bubbly rear end it looks really strange especially on the R1S
I’ve never understood why more manufacturers don’t just produce ev versions of their existing cars. There’s no technical reason they couldn’t produce an electric Camry or accord or minivan or any suv. There’s are a few, but most feel compelled to “Tesla-ize” it in some way, which usually does more harm than good.
I don’t disagree, I think the lighting looked great it was just an F150 nothing overly futuristic, but I also do like the full light across the front and rear, but GM chose to redesign the Silverado/avalanche into an EV and it still looks better with the fake grill on the WTs but works with solid color but the design change will be responsible for steering some people away, scout and Rivian can get away with there designs as they are starting “fresh” and need to stand out on the roads, weather you love or hate the pills on Rivian you know when you see one
I understand part of it is EV related. Range is important - and the cheapest way to get more range is aerodynamics. The Lightning looks a lot like a Ford F150 - till you look at the ground clearance. It has ground clearance closer to the SVT Lightning. It had good performance, but still sold less than 30k units over 10 years (which is amazingly dismal). I've met people incredibly proud of theirs - it is a tiny niche truck with a devoted following.
Still - the mileage hit of making the lightning the same height of a 4x4 Ford (which usually has a factory lift), might have hurt sales more than the low ground clearance did.
Still - the mileage hit of making the lightning the same height of a 4x4 Ford (which usually has a factory lift), might have hurt sales more than the low ground clearance did.
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