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It depends on whether Rivian can sell the R2 at a profit. We shall see. It took Tesla 17 years to make a profit. Lucid is not a success. They lost $300,000 on every car they sold last year (their new Gravity seems to be a great product and will help). Rivian would benefit by licensing its zonal architecture and software to other companies.
That 300k/per car could have been going to R&D for Gravity. Since from what every video i have watched don gravity, it seems they poured a-lot of cash into it.
 
Would agree but now that VW has a huge interest in the zonal I suspect they would prefer to make competition spend R&D money of their own to help level the playing field
BMW will be using zonal architecture in their "Neue Klasse" cars.

 
BMW will be using zonal architecture in their "Neue Klasse" cars.

Agreed and BMW spent money on their own R&D. Helps give EV “start-ups” a bit of an edge over say the Big 3 that can use ICE sales to support their EV growth vs the start ups relying on investors $$. Now we will see what happens with Tesla, Lucid and Slate and any other viable start ups
 
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this is an opinion based question that has nothing to do with Scout, but could help Scout out in the market: Will R2 make push Rivian to be as successful as Tesla and Lucid?

We all know Rivian has struggled, bankruptcy rumors, and more. But with R2 on the line for 2026 and it being Rivians first US average priced vehicle(45k-65k), and not at a premium price(75k-90k). I think it will be Rivians big break through. Into the future EV buyers and market.


VW is planning on investing $5.8B in Rivian by 2027, so I think they smell a winner despite developing their own vehicles that will compete in the same space.

 
To be fair that is also what has been happening to Rivian, they were eating a LOT of amortized costs for the tooling and plant for the R1 family.
I live about 20 minutes from the Rivian factory. They are shutting down the end of the year for a little bit to get ready to start building the R2 in 2026. The city here also gave them another big incentive recently for more expansion. They just keep growing here, which is great.
 
I live about 20 minutes from the Rivian factory. They are shutting down the end of the year for a little bit to get ready to start building the R2 in 2026. The city here also gave them another big incentive recently for more expansion. They just keep growing here, which is great.
Still no trader joes though?
 
I live about 20 minutes from the Rivian factory. They are shutting down the end of the year for a little bit to get ready to start building the R2 in 2026. The city here also gave them another big incentive recently for more expansion. They just keep growing here, which is great.
I did my undergrad not to far away in Peoria, man has it really been crazy watching how the area has changed in the past 10 years
 
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