Did some basic math and at 25mpg, a gas car would have to cover over 27K miles a year to rack up $200 in charges.Transportation and Infrastructure Committee Chairman Sam Graves is proposing an additional $200 Federal EV Registration Fee and $100 Federal Registration Fee for hybrids.
The committee will be voting on it today, April 30th.
This Federal Registration Fee would be in addition to your local and state registration fees.
- Ends free rides for electric vehicles (EVs) and ensures they begin paying into the Highway Trust Fund (HTF) for their use of the nation’s highways.
- The HTF is the main funding source for federal surface transportation programs and is funded by user-fees. Drivers help pay for their use of the nation’s roads when they pay this user fee through an excise tax on gasoline. Since EVs do not use gas, they do not pay this user fee, and this inequity contributes to a growing shortfall in the HTF.
- Working to close the shortfall will help ensure that the HTF reduces the need for future bailouts from the general fund to make up the shortfall.
- By leveraging states’ existing registration systems, the bill assesses an annual registration fee of $200 on EVs and $100 on hybrids (which currently pay a lesser share into the HTF) to ensure they pay for their use of the nation’s roads and bridges.
- 39 states currently assess electric vehicle registration fees and 28 states also assess fees on hybrids.
- The bill will also assess a $20 annual registration fee on all other passenger vehicles beginning in 2031. This is the first step towards House Republicans’ surface transportation reauthorization goal of repealing and replacing the broken gas tax and federal excise tax structure that has left the HTF bankrupt.
- Together, these new user fees are expected to increase federal revenues by a conservative estimate of approximately $50 billion over ten years, all of which will be deposited into the HTF.
I didn’t think it moved forward. I thought I heard yesterday it died in the committee but I could be wrong.Did some basic math and at 25mpg, a gas car would have to cover over 27K miles a year to rack up $200 in charges.
I just checked and it's bad news. It moved forward, but only after they made the following modifications...I didn’t think it moved forward. I thought I heard yesterday it died in the committee but I could be wrong.
Thanks for looking that up. Clearly this is ridiculous. Another thing I need to contact my reps about. Sheesh.I just checked and it's bad news. It moved forward, but only after they made the following modifications...
With that said I've revised my napkin math: A gas car doing 25mpg will have to drive 33K miles to rack up $250 in federal gas tax to be square with EVs. Bear in mind the average American drives 14K miles a year meaning if this was truly fair, the fee should be closer to $100 for EV's. I don't care your party affiliation, no rational person can look at this and say it's a fair deal.
- Increased the proposed EV fee from $200 to $250
- Removed the $20 annual registration fee on gas powered cars due to opposition within Republican party
EV have a $200 annual registration fee in Ohio. So then now it will be $450 with federal? Wow…I just checked and it's bad news. It moved forward, but only after they made the following modifications...
With that said I've revised my napkin math: A gas car doing 25mpg will have to drive 33K miles to rack up $250 in federal gas tax to be square with EVs. Bear in mind the average American drives 14K miles a year meaning if this was truly fair, the fee should be closer to $100 for EV's. I don't care your party affiliation, no rational person can look at this and say it's a fair deal.
- Increased the proposed EV fee from $200 to $250
- Removed the $20 annual registration fee on gas powered cars due to opposition within Republican party
I think ours is an extra $100 or so here in Illinois.EV have a $200 annual registration fee in Ohio. So then now it will be $450 with federal? Wow…
don't complain, lol. Its better than $490.EV have a $200 annual registration fee in Ohio. So then now it will be $450 with federal? Wow…
So just to follow up on this - you shouldn't compare L3 (DC fast charging) with L2 (AC slow charging) at home. It will be much cheaper to charge at home and nearly all of your charging will be done there (unless you live in an apartment or someplace that does not have power where you park overnight). You only use L3 charging when on a trip. Think about how gas stations right by the interstate are more expensive than the ones in town - they have a captive audience and know that you will pay more. It's also likely that the land there was more expensive so their costs are higher, etc.Charging at the house here is like .15 cents a kw regardless of time of day since our provider doesn’t offer off peak discount. Still loads cheaper than .38 cents at a super charger.
Donors getting what they paid for and I say that based purely on the math that's behind this one. It's no accident.It’s like they want to slow down EV development![]()
I’m sure there are motivations from the petroleum lobby, but our grid has needed billions in expansion and improvements for decades. So I don’t see the current leadership wanting to be the ones to spend money on it.It’s like they want to slow down EV development![]()
This is why the idled/undamaged Three Mile Island reactor will be brougt back on line.I’m sure there are motivations from the petroleum lobby, but our grid has needed billions in expansion and improvements for decades. So I don’t see the current leadership wanting to be the ones to spend money on it.
Data centers are projected to consumer 4%-6% of our available electricity by the year 2030. Microsoft is paying for the reactors at 3 Mile Island to be brought back online and will purchase its entire output for the next 20 years.
Summers are getting hotter so ACs are running more frequently for longer periods of time.
EVs are about to become more affordable for the lower and middle class. Widespread EV adoption will also accelerate energy consumption.
Our grid is headed towards collapse and they just don’t want to be the ones holding the bag.
We need energy storage and reactors coming back online or we will fall behind the rest of the world.
Nuclear!!!!I’m sure there are motivations from the petroleum lobby, but our grid has needed billions in expansion and improvements for decades. So I don’t see the current leadership wanting to be the ones to spend money on it.
Data centers are projected to consumer 4%-6% of our available electricity by the year 2030. Microsoft is paying for the reactors at 3 Mile Island to be brought back online and will purchase its entire output for the next 20 years.
Summers are getting hotter so ACs are running more frequently for longer periods of time.
EVs are about to become more affordable for the lower and middle class. Widespread EV adoption will also accelerate energy consumption.
Our grid is headed towards collapse and they just don’t want to be the ones holding the bag.
We need energy storage and reactors coming back online or we will fall behind the rest of the world.
This is why the idled/undamaged Three Mile Island reactor will be brougt back on line.
Also why Gates is funding some smaller salt cooled reactors in ID or maybe WY(?) and one of the larger nuclear facilities will be adding an addtional reactor, TN, Browns Ferry(?) and maybe Palos Verde in AZ. These are mainly due to data center draw as you point out.
Nuclear is the way of the future.
China is adding 2-3 reactors (And they are very dirty ones) a year, along with 10 coal fired plants (also without any real polution mitigation) EVERY YEAR.
Battery storage is becoming more feasable and other means of storage, mainly thermal, to store otherwise wasted PV and wind output.
Hydro is diminishing rapidily.
Where to get the power for EVs?
I’ve been following this as well. Very intriguing. Thought everybody worrying about sea animals becoming sushi but I call it chum. Start fishing a mile further out as the fish swim in to eatbig fan of nuclear and solar. Both proven and reliable. I just read this article that is also interesting.
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World’s most powerful underwater tide-riding turbines to power 15,000 homes annually — Interesting Engineering
NH1 is one of 85 “Zero-Net” projects sharing €4.8B, selected for GHG reduction, innovation, maturity, scalability, and viability.apple.news
I didn't think about that. But, I figured it might be more acceptable to those that do not want to see windmills. Also, the current is constant even if the wind is not.I’ve been following this as well. Very intriguing. Thought everybody worrying about sea animals becoming sushi but I call it chum. Start fishing a mile further out as the fish swim in to eat![]()
Chinese’s and Japanese are moving on this tech too. I think it’s great.I didn't think about that. But, I figured it might be more acceptable to those that do not want to see windmills. Also, the current is constant even if the wind is not.