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It depends on whether Rivian can sell the R2 at a profit. We shall see. It took Tesla 17 years to make a profit. Lucid is not a success. They lost $300,000 on every car they sold last year (their new Gravity seems to be a great product and will help). Rivian would benefit by licensing its zonal architecture and software to other companies.
That 300k/per car could have been going to R&D for Gravity. Since from what every video i have watched don gravity, it seems they poured a-lot of cash into it.
 
Would agree but now that VW has a huge interest in the zonal I suspect they would prefer to make competition spend R&D money of their own to help level the playing field
BMW will be using zonal architecture in their "Neue Klasse" cars.

 
BMW will be using zonal architecture in their "Neue Klasse" cars.

Agreed and BMW spent money on their own R&D. Helps give EV “start-ups” a bit of an edge over say the Big 3 that can use ICE sales to support their EV growth vs the start ups relying on investors $$. Now we will see what happens with Tesla, Lucid and Slate and any other viable start ups
 
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this is an opinion based question that has nothing to do with Scout, but could help Scout out in the market: Will R2 make push Rivian to be as successful as Tesla and Lucid?

We all know Rivian has struggled, bankruptcy rumors, and more. But with R2 on the line for 2026 and it being Rivians first US average priced vehicle(45k-65k), and not at a premium price(75k-90k). I think it will be Rivians big break through. Into the future EV buyers and market.


VW is planning on investing $5.8B in Rivian by 2027, so I think they smell a winner despite developing their own vehicles that will compete in the same space.

 
To be fair that is also what has been happening to Rivian, they were eating a LOT of amortized costs for the tooling and plant for the R1 family.
I live about 20 minutes from the Rivian factory. They are shutting down the end of the year for a little bit to get ready to start building the R2 in 2026. The city here also gave them another big incentive recently for more expansion. They just keep growing here, which is great.
 
I live about 20 minutes from the Rivian factory. They are shutting down the end of the year for a little bit to get ready to start building the R2 in 2026. The city here also gave them another big incentive recently for more expansion. They just keep growing here, which is great.
Still no trader joes though?
 
I live about 20 minutes from the Rivian factory. They are shutting down the end of the year for a little bit to get ready to start building the R2 in 2026. The city here also gave them another big incentive recently for more expansion. They just keep growing here, which is great.
I did my undergrad not to far away in Peoria, man has it really been crazy watching how the area has changed in the past 10 years
 
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Transportation and Infrastructure Committee Chairman Sam Graves is proposing an additional $200 Federal EV Registration Fee and $100 Federal Registration Fee for hybrids.

The committee will be voting on it today, April 30th.


This Federal Registration Fee would be in addition to your local and state registration fees.

  • Ends free rides for electric vehicles (EVs) and ensures they begin paying into the Highway Trust Fund (HTF) for their use of the nation’s highways.


  • The HTF is the main funding source for federal surface transportation programs and is funded by user-fees. Drivers help pay for their use of the nation’s roads when they pay this user fee through an excise tax on gasoline. Since EVs do not use gas, they do not pay this user fee, and this inequity contributes to a growing shortfall in the HTF.
  • Working to close the shortfall will help ensure that the HTF reduces the need for future bailouts from the general fund to make up the shortfall.
  • By leveraging states’ existing registration systems, the bill assesses an annual registration fee of $200 on EVs and $100 on hybrids (which currently pay a lesser share into the HTF) to ensure they pay for their use of the nation’s roads and bridges.
  • 39 states currently assess electric vehicle registration fees and 28 states also assess fees on hybrids.
  • The bill will also assess a $20 annual registration fee on all other passenger vehicles beginning in 2031. This is the first step towards House Republicans’ surface transportation reauthorization goal of repealing and replacing the broken gas tax and federal excise tax structure that has left the HTF bankrupt.
  • Together, these new user fees are expected to increase federal revenues by a conservative estimate of approximately $50 billion over ten years, all of which will be deposited into the HTF.
 
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