With reasonable driving (not accelerating or braking too hard and cruising at speed limits or occasionally going about 5 under) in my Bolt I can get 310 from 80%. EPA was 246 from 100%
EV reservation holders, would you consider the Harvester
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Yeah. GM just settled a federal/state lawsuit for selling vehicle data (location, behaviors) to brokers so they are off my list for… a while.
Of course, now GM is the only company /prohibited/ from selling data for five years, but that they did it in the first place points to some wrong-headed-ness when it comes to protecting consumers.
I don't think they did a good job marketing in total for both side now looking at it. Im seeing people on the inter-webs commenting that they wish it had a hybrid option. I think EREV was too complicated to show to the general public.
And I have nothing against the way Scout went about it. It felt very neutral. But there was times where I was like "wheres the EV marketing? since overall it is deep down an EV, no matter what you get Harvester or Not." But i don't know maybe it had to do with developing the platform since it was released at the Reveal and was new so they felt they needed to push EREV.
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Decided long ago that 350 mile range was my cutoff. 450 would make me a LOT more comfortable. Not so much that I need 450 mile range, but I really want 350 miles of range, and don't want light towing (lawn mower or kayak trailer) or actual AT tires to put me much below that 350 miles. As it is, a 240 mile trip to paddle or mow might be pushing it - and honestly, I might want to take a nap with the AC before I drive home...
Hell, caught myself boat shopping again - as my bay boat will be a really hard tow with the Traveler. Not due to weight - but range. It might only be possible with 2 charges stops. 2 charge stops vs strait drive with my F250... How often would I take the Traveler. Not to mention if I need 2 charge stops - depending on the $/watt, it might not even be less expensive.
Hell, caught myself boat shopping again - as my bay boat will be a really hard tow with the Traveler. Not due to weight - but range. It might only be possible with 2 charges stops. 2 charge stops vs strait drive with my F250... How often would I take the Traveler. Not to mention if I need 2 charge stops - depending on the $/watt, it might not even be less expensive.
Fair thought, but it also depends on how long those stops are, if you're "full" charging at both, then it might be on the expensive side, but if you're just charging enough to get to the next one it might not be, not to mention uncontrollable environmental factors like weather and traffic
I have a reservation for the Terra EV, and I would consider the Terra EREV. Particularly if it allowed my car to be available significantly sooner.
My primary concern with the EREV is that it seems like an unnecessary cost, but I suppose if the cost was low enough, I don’t have any objections to the EREV. That said, if I spent an extra $5k or so, I think I’d rather just get a bigger battery.
My other concern is towing capacity. I do plan on towing. My current trailer is about 4,500 lbs, so I would be able to still tow it with the 5,000 lb capacity of the EREV. I would eventually like to upgrade my trailer, and the ones I am looking at are around 7,500 lbs.
All of those words to say that if the EREV is a fairly cheap option and towing capacity is not impacted too much, I would probably switch to EREV.
My primary concern with the EREV is that it seems like an unnecessary cost, but I suppose if the cost was low enough, I don’t have any objections to the EREV. That said, if I spent an extra $5k or so, I think I’d rather just get a bigger battery.
My other concern is towing capacity. I do plan on towing. My current trailer is about 4,500 lbs, so I would be able to still tow it with the 5,000 lb capacity of the EREV. I would eventually like to upgrade my trailer, and the ones I am looking at are around 7,500 lbs.
All of those words to say that if the EREV is a fairly cheap option and towing capacity is not impacted too much, I would probably switch to EREV.
I was initially excited about the Harvester for the added range. The reason I'm no longer considering it is because it's not just a range extender; it has a smaller EV range of 150mi compared to the EV-only 350mi. With my goal of getting away from gas completely, that's no longer a fail-safe for longer trips, it keeps gas as part of my daily, and that's a no-go for me.
Welcome to the community! Just curious, are you switching your reservation to the BEV or getting something different all together?
Reserved a BEV Traveler earlier this week. No switching, I hadn't made any reservations previously.
Wonderful, welcome to the community!
I feel you, while I hoped the the EREV was an additional 150 I was expecting 250 each, but my daily miles get 130-230 miles a day and while 500 miles would be great for occasional trips, like driving my scout home from the factory, or to visit friends in SC a couple of drives a year just isn’t worth the extra complexity, maintenance, and costs added near daily
Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting. Glad to see more converts to BEV
I’m pretty much there as well. Still have one of each Traveler reserved as second family member may also want one but if only way to get launch is EREV I may do that as I’ve realized I could get by with nearly no gas. @Jamie@ScoutMotors will you have to use gas at all if you don’t ever do more than 150 miles? Or would one gallon do it and let the auto start burn it off periodically?
My work range for clients is about 55 miles max in any direction so theoretically unless I scheduled multiple appointments in a single day I’d likely never get beyond 120 miles and that is only a few times a month. So I could go without the gas but then it’s annoying that it’s only 150 and not 350 miles
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Solid reasoning there. For those with good charging infrastructure in your area, it's hard to make the case for Harvester. However, I still think Scout was smart to offer the Harvester for those who live in areas with charging deserts or those with range anxiety to help get them more comfortable with an EV.
Like @cyure always says, I hope everyone gets what they want.
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Though Scout is in a good position to help educate people about actual EV ownership, it's really feeling like they won't and just talk around the EV (given most interviews to date), hopefully Scout will offer a decent incentive for those with Harvester to trade for BEV if they find Range Anxiety is overblown and they end up rarely (if ever) using the generator
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