Who is Tom Tom? Is that the person I set up to ignore? It works well and I find now rather than getting myself worked up I just ignore. If you are unsure how I’ll gladly provide the steps
Are you OK with Scout vehicles starting under $60K?
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Yet another very exclusive club here within the forum
I have no idea who this is either, I have ignored 2 people on this forum in total so I'm assuming they are possibly one of them.
You guys realize I can see these posts, right? openly coordinating a "silent treatment" in a public thread isn't exactly a covert operation. It’s a tactic usually left behind in middle school lunchrooms.
It is also a massive "tell." When the strategy shifts from refuting the data to "everyone ignore him," it is a tacit admission that you have run out of logical counter-arguments. You can try to "bump" past the facts to bury the discussion, but hiding from the economic reality won't make the truck any cheaper. If the only way to sustain your position is to pretend the opposing viewpoint doesn't exist, you have already conceded the debate.
It is also a massive "tell." When the strategy shifts from refuting the data to "everyone ignore him," it is a tacit admission that you have run out of logical counter-arguments. You can try to "bump" past the facts to bury the discussion, but hiding from the economic reality won't make the truck any cheaper. If the only way to sustain your position is to pretend the opposing viewpoint doesn't exist, you have already conceded the debate.
I don't think there was anything covert about it.
Uh oh, seems this was also AI bud and this is probably the only human written thing so far that’s came from you, and it’s not even human written. Might want to check and see if it’s because you’re organizing your points or if it’s because you have no original knowledge about anything Automotive related.You guys realize I can see these posts, right? openly coordinating a "silent treatment" in a public thread isn't exactly a covert operation. It’s a tactic usually left behind in middle school lunchrooms.
It is also a massive "tell." When the strategy shifts from refuting the data to "everyone ignore him," it is a tacit admission that you have run out of logical counter-arguments. You can try to "bump" past the facts to bury the discussion, but hiding from the economic reality won't make the truck any cheaper. If the only way to sustain your position is to pretend the opposing viewpoint doesn't exist, you have already conceded the debate.
All of the probable and original starting prices were pre-factory and other, new impactful changes on-the-ground. I’m an intrigued ‘maybe' in reality. Thank you.
I don’t know they seem to be pretty set on the under 60k mark which was recently updated when the EV tax credit was dropped.
But for fun here’s some quick Math, we know the factory costed about 2 billion. And then the state gave them 1.3 billion for infrastructure changes like rail, highway, etc. so that doesn’t go to the 2 billion exactly. Let’s say all the R&D costed the, another 1 billion, that includes both EREV and BEV powertrains.
So that’s about 3 Billion Dollars burned **obviously operating costs are in this**. Let’s say each car they sell to a reservation holder is $70k. Let’s say they make 15-20% revenue on each. Thats would be roughly around $12,600 they make from each. They would need to sell about 300,000 cars to be profitable. Let’s say that will happen around year 5. Which would mean they would need to sell about 50,000 cars a year.
Obviously the first year or so will be way under that 50,000 cars manufactured mark. But let’s hope for the best!
I like your thinking but during presentation on reveal weekend they showed charts that they would be profitable year one. Now that may imply they aren’t losing money on vehicles but your logic based on some quick math seems plausible.
When Scott said profitable he was referring to the fact that we wouldn’t sell each vehicle at a loss in terms of piece cost. The larger $4-5 billion investment to get everything off the ground will take years to pay down and recoup.
As always thanks for keeping it real Jamie.
I wanted to say there are points of this discussion that have not been addressed ad nauseam. But honestly not sure if that is true anymore. Scout needs to develop a brand image, and continue operations until the next level of EV adoption happens. I can only hope that the Scout and Terra are only the first chapter in a long story to come.
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