Size comparison

[RBPII]

Here's the comparison chart for the Traveler! I went with the Toyota Land Cruiser since it's a two row (rather than the 3 row Sequoia), the 4 door Bronco with 35s so that it was more comparable in build to the Traveler, and the R1S. I chose the R1S over the R2 even though it's a 3 row because the R2 is a unibody and drastically smaller than the Traveler. I wanted to make sure we had an adventure ready EV SUV on the list and the R1S fits the bill.

The net takeaway: the Traveler's big! @cyure I know you say they look big in person and I can really see why!

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Great chart! To anyone who has seen the interior of the Traveler and/or have had the chance to sit in the Traveler, what are your thoughts on interior space and seating height? Based on exterior’s specs and online photos, I’m imagining the traveler as roomier than some of its competitors listed in chart above.

 

[cyure]

Great chart! To anyone who has seen the interior of the Traveler and/or have had the chance to sit in the Traveler, what are your thoughts on interior space and seating height? Based on exterior’s specs and online photos, I’m imagining the traveler as roomier than some of its competitors listed in chart above.

Hello again! Having sat in the front and back seats I feel the Traveler is definitely roomier than my 4-door Wrangler. Definitely. And the windshield is so much bigger. Definitely a wider field of view for sure.

Not sure if you saw my pictures from SC or not, here they are again. I’m 5’7” and the hubs is 5’10”.

 

[RBPII]

Hello again! Having sat in the front and back seats I feel the Traveler is definitely roomier than my 4-door Wrangler. Definitely. And the windshield is so much bigger. Definitely a wider field of view for sure.

Not sure if you saw my pictures from SC or not, here they are again. I’m 5’7” and the hubs is 5’10”.

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I did see these! Thanks for sharing again. I wasn’t sure how well the photos represented the actual interior space.

 

[cyure]

I did see these! Thanks for sharing again. I wasn’t sure how well the photos represented the actual interior space.

The hard part is you literally can’t adjust anything. It does feel bigger than my Wrangler for sure.

 

[J Alynn]

Great chart! To anyone who has seen the interior of the Traveler and/or have had the chance to sit in the Traveler, what are your thoughts on interior space and seating height? Based on exterior’s specs and online photos, I’m imagining the traveler as roomier than some of its competitors listed in chart above.

I can’t comment on this past weekend but at 5’-10” height I find the seating height to be amazing. Our last Uber ride in Boston was in a suburban-back seat obviously, but I would say height and overall interior width felt very similar, suburban felt (or was) a bit wider

 

[Scout_Lookout]

Here's the comparison chart for the Traveler! I went with the Toyota Land Cruiser since it's a two row (rather than the 3 row Sequoia), the 4 door Bronco with 35s so that it was more comparable in build to the Traveler, and the R1S. I chose the R1S over the R2 even though it's a 3 row because the R2 is a unibody and drastically smaller than the Traveler. I wanted to make sure we had an adventure ready EV SUV on the list and the R1S fits the bill.

The net takeaway: the Traveler's big! @cyure I know you say they look big in person and I can really see why!

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First of all, great chart! It's so much to fun to see the Traveler up against current production vehicles. However, I think there has been one monstrosity that's been left out which for me at least is what I've been comparing Traveler to the most, and thats the Hummer EV SUV. Of which I think would be a better fit in this group than the Bronco, because it's more of a "traditional SUV" and has a spare tire.

Additionally an asterisk could be added for the R1's because with their air suspension the ground clearance can go up to 15 inches. The same could also be said with the Hummer. I've said this before but when I was shopping for my R1T I compared it to the CT, Silverado EV, and Hummer EV truck, and if the Hummer had been as software focused as the Rivian, that's what I would be driving right now. I think the Hummer just looks like an absolute beast, but having seen the Traveler in person, it's right there with it.

 

[J Alynn]

Here's the comparison chart for the Traveler! I went with the Toyota Land Cruiser since it's a two row (rather than the 3 row Sequoia), the 4 door Bronco with 35s so that it was more comparable in build to the Traveler, and the R1S. I chose the R1S over the R2 even though it's a 3 row because the R2 is a unibody and drastically smaller than the Traveler. I wanted to make sure we had an adventure ready EV SUV on the list and the R1S fits the bill.

The net takeaway: the Traveler's big! @cyure I know you say they look big in person and I can really see why!

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Interesting as expected that the EV’s have wheels pushed out further so therefore longer wheel bases

 

[eringer]

I think there has been one monstrosity that's been left out which for me at least is what I've been comparing Traveler to the most, and thats the Hummer EV SUV.

Additionally an asterisk could be added for the R1's because with their air suspension the ground clearance can go up to 15 inches.

I had the Hummer EV in my longer list before winnowing down to the four in the chart just because it is a large EV SUV. But is it a vehicle people shopping for a Traveler EV actually consider as an alternative? The Hummer always seems so gimmicky to me.

Perhaps I could make an EV only version and an ICE version:

1. EV - Traveler vs. R1S, Hummer EV, and one other. Jeep Recon? Something else?
2. ICE - Traveler Harvester vs. what would you all want to see here? Some options I've seen - Land Cruiser, Land Rover Defender, Tahoe, Jeep Wrangler 4-Door

As for the R1S air suspension, I did include that as a footnote on the Traveler strength on ground clearance.

 

[J Alynn]

I had the Hummer EV in my longer list before winnowing down to the four in the chart just because it is a large EV SUV. But is it a vehicle people shopping for a Traveler EV actually consider as an alternative? The Hummer always seems so gimmicky to me.

Perhaps I could make an EV only version and an ICE version:

1. EV - Traveler vs. R1S, Hummer EV, and one other. Jeep Recon? Something else?
2. ICE - Traveler Harvester vs. what would you all want to see here? Some options I've seen - Land Cruiser, Land Rover Defender, Tahoe, Jeep Wrangler 4-Door

As for the R1S air suspension, I did include that as a footnote on the Traveler strength on ground clearance.

If you are up for the work two charts would be interesting just to see the variations

 

[cyure]

I had the Hummer EV in my longer list before winnowing down to the four in the chart just because it is a large EV SUV. But is it a vehicle people shopping for a Traveler EV actually consider as an alternative? The Hummer always seems so gimmicky to me.

Perhaps I could make an EV only version and an ICE version:

1. EV - Traveler vs. R1S, Hummer EV, and one other. Jeep Recon? Something else?
2. ICE - Traveler Harvester vs. what would you all want to see here? Some options I've seen - Land Cruiser, Land Rover Defender, Tahoe, Jeep Wrangler 4-Door

As for the R1S air suspension, I did include that as a footnote on the Traveler strength on ground clearance.

Same, I don’t consider the Hummer EV as a comparison to the Traveler. The body on that thing is as wide as the Traveler with mirrors. It’s too heavy to go on some bridges for goodness sake. I don’t think it needs to be included.

 

[cyure]

I did see these! Thanks for sharing again. I wasn’t sure how well the photos represented the actual interior space.

Here’s one picture I haven’t posted on the forum yet. Gives you an idea of what it looks like from the outside with someone in the drivers seat. Again, I’m 5’7”.

 

[Scout_Lookout]

I had the Hummer EV in my longer list before winnowing down to the four in the chart just because it is a large EV SUV. But is it a vehicle people shopping for a Traveler EV actually consider as an alternative? The Hummer always seems so gimmicky to me.

Perhaps I could make an EV only version and an ICE version:

1. EV - Traveler vs. R1S, Hummer EV, and one other. Jeep Recon? Something else?
2. ICE - Traveler Harvester vs. what would you all want to see here? Some options I've seen - Land Cruiser, Land Rover Defender, Tahoe, Jeep Wrangler 4-Door

As for the R1S air suspension, I did include that as a footnote on the Traveler strength on ground clearance.

I like the idea of the full EV comparison for sure. I think Traveler v R1S v Hummer EV SUV v idk maybe the Escalade IQ? I'm thinking more of the larger SUV's as I consider Traveler to be a full size SUV. Unlike the R2, Recon, or similar vehicles that are IMO a midsize and not a good comparison to Traveler.

Hey @cyure believe it or not, Hummer EV owners are actually taking their vehicles off-road, it's kind of cool. There are quite a few videos of them doing some decent trails, but yeah, if I had one I would stay away from the bridges too lol!

 

[speedrye]

I’d consider scrapping the Bronco and Wrangler just based on size and stature but the rest are good comparisons

I'm looking at vehicles with solid rear axles, mainly because the buyers aren't looking for a sedan-like ride. Sadly, there aren't many of those nowadays.

 

[RBPII]

The hard part is you literally can’t adjust anything. It does feel bigger than my Wrangler for sure.

I had the Hummer EV in my longer list before winnowing down to the four in the chart just because it is a large EV SUV. But is it a vehicle people shopping for a Traveler EV actually consider as an alternative? The Hummer always seems so gimmicky to me.

Perhaps I could make an EV only version and an ICE version:

1. EV - Traveler vs. R1S, Hummer EV, and one other. Jeep Recon? Something else?
2. ICE - Traveler Harvester vs. what would you all want to see here? Some options I've seen - Land Cruiser, Land Rover Defender, Tahoe, Jeep Wrangler 4-Door

As for the R1S air suspension, I did include that as a footnote on the Traveler strength on ground clearance.

I think you could include the 4Runner in the ICE category. It’s a very popular body-on-frame, 2-row SUV that is capable off road/on road and can easily be spec’d out to cost similarly to the predicted cost of the Traveler.