Range extender - please adjust spec to 250 miles of EV Range

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Several have mentioned the 1 second slower for 0-60mph but in an SUV how critical is that. I’ve had sport sedans and 2+2 coupes that were just over 4.5 seconds and they were tons of fun. There will be nearly no vehicles, let alone SUVs that will pull up next to you on the line to race. Just found it funny but I guess if you already have an EV you get used to that instant torque and speed. That said, I’m excited for 3.5 seconds until the novelty wears off 🤣
I don't think anyone has ever pulled up next to me in a Chevy Suburban or Tahoe, Volvo, or BMW SUV and wanted to race. One because my Mini Countryman is pushing 550hp, and two it weights 2,976 LBS. It pretty much smokes any car that comes near it. Now my M3 G80 is a different story.

wait till chip tuning happens to Scouts. the mess the tuning community will create.
 
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Include your BEVs?
For whatever it's worth, our BEV is coming up on 10 years and the battery is at 99% - 98% health. 70k(ish) miles. Other than boring maintenance and the odd factory recall there has never been a problem other than flaky android auto wired connections sometimes. I'd stay away from air-cooled BEV's like the leaf, but we don't worry about that aspect all that much. The HV battery in our 2012 Prius failed in Jan 2025 at 187k miles, but that's a $2600 fix that my son and I did in about 4 hours, and realistically I could have done it myself in 2h, lol.
 
The range extender should get at least 50% of its 500 mile range in pure EV mode otherwise it would be pretty worthless with only 150 miles that you can only get in ideal conditions. In the winter this likely means sub 100 miles pure EV range - not acceptable
We are looking to replace an ice SUV with the harvester. This would be our every day driver for taking the kids to school and my work, but also would replace the SUV for longer roadtrips.
Our family would like to get around 200-250 miles of EV range and the other half from gas. The front trunk is worth the sacrifice if more battery space is needed. Without the range in both EV and gas, the concept doesn’t make sense for our family.
 
We are looking to replace an ice SUV with the harvester. This would be our every day driver for taking the kids to school and my work, but also would replace the SUV for longer roadtrips.
Our family would like to get around 200-250 miles of EV range and the other half from gas. The front trunk is worth the sacrifice if more battery space is needed. Without the range in both EV and gas, the concept doesn’t make sense for our family.
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I think everyone says they would love more capacity on the Harvesters battery. We will have to wait and see if they can squeak out a little more once the Harvester design is complete.
 
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We are looking to replace an ice SUV with the harvester. This would be our every day driver for taking the kids to school and my work, but also would replace the SUV for longer roadtrips.
Our family would like to get around 200-250 miles of EV range and the other half from gas. The front trunk is worth the sacrifice if more battery space is needed. Without the range in both EV and gas, the concept doesn’t make sense for our family.
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We are looking to replace an ice SUV with the harvester. This would be our every day driver for taking the kids to school and my work, but also would replace the SUV for longer roadtrips.
Our family would like to get around 200-250 miles of EV range and the other half from gas. The front trunk is worth the sacrifice if more battery space is needed. Without the range in both EV and gas, the concept doesn’t make sense for our family.
With our BEV we generally never charge to the top, and don't want to go too far down. With a range extender and LFP batteries, you'd likely be more comfortable with using as much battery as the computer will allow. My guess is that running the harvester will be around 22MPG. Every number is subject to change, and I'm only guessing with very limited information. I don't know how far you drive in a given day, but if you were to post the numbers, I'm somewhat interested in doing the math. What is price per kWh where you live, what are the distances, speeds, and do you have a place at home to charge?
 
I have Honda Clarity plug in hybrid. On paper it has 47 EV range and 340 combine. But in reality its about 30-40 EV.
When you go to a long trip I have to fill gas tank every 200 miles. I would like to minimally use battery during long trip and need to keep some amount of gas before gas station.
So I estimate that in real world for Scout during long trip range will be much less. Usually, when you go for vacation you have many family members and a lot of staff in a car. Even for EV I would estimate real range as about 250-300, as for Harvester keep in mind that you will not at the same charge battery and fill gas tank. I would estimate each stop at a gas station will give you extra 250-300 miles.
 
I have Honda Clarity plug in hybrid. On paper it has 47 EV range and 340 combine. But in reality its about 30-40 EV.
When you go to a long trip I have to fill gas tank every 200 miles. I would like to minimally use battery during long trip and need to keep some amount of gas before gas station.
So I estimate that in real world for Scout during long trip range will be much less. Usually, when you go for vacation you have many family members and a lot of staff in a car. Even for EV I would estimate real range as about 250-300, as for Harvester keep in mind that you will not at the same charge battery and fill gas tank. I would estimate each stop at a gas station will give you extra 250-300 miles.
The implied ICE range looks like 350 miles (500 - 150) of course real life is never the same as on paper, some companies underestimate range on sustained driving and others over-sell their range. Unfortunately, on that front Scout is a complete unknown. The thing is shaped like a brick, so I don't expect the highway fuel economy to overshoot their claims especially with AT or MT tires. I personally would probably do a combination of fast charging and fuel stops on my somewhat rare road trips. I can barely wait for more and better numbers on this vehicle.
 
With our BEV we generally never charge to the top, and don't want to go too far down. With a range extender and LFP batteries, you'd likely be more comfortable with using as much battery as the computer will allow. My guess is that running the harvester will be around 22MPG. Every number is subject to change, and I'm only guessing with very limited information. I don't know how far you drive in a given day, but if you were to post the numbers, I'm somewhat interested in doing the math. What is price per kWh where you live, what are the distances, speeds, and do you have a place at home to charge?
Hubby here, adding to my previous post. We have a Rivian as our other vehicle and we have a LVL2 charger at home. We pay around 12-14 cents per KWH and drive between 30-40 miles per weekday (kids school work, errands). Mostly driving 35-50 on roads with some hwy driving (8-10 miles). We have taken one long family trip in the R1T; charging times changed the way we made pit stops (included food and dog walks).

We are excited for the harvester and there are a ton of really cool features.
 
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Hubby here, adding to my previous post. We have a Rivian as our other vehicle and we have a LVL2 charger at home. We pay around 12-14 cents per KWH and drive between 30-40 miles per weekday (kids school work, errands). Mostly driving 35-50 on roads with some hwy driving (8-10 miles). We have taken one long family trip in the R1T; charging times changed the way we made pit stops (included food and dog walks).

We are excited for the harvester and there are a ton of really cool features.
I should have asked about the MPG of the vehicle it replaces and the average fuel price there, oh, and how long the road trips might be. Just for fun, I input your numbers to see what those daily energy costs look like.

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(math...)

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I should have asked about the MPG of the vehicle it replaces and the average fuel price there, oh, and how long the road trips might be. Just for fun, I input your numbers to see what those daily energy costs look like.

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For Honda clarity mpg = 40, gas tank 7, ev range 47, hybrid range = 340- 47 = 293. Battery 17 kW.
Actuall range is much smaller and when you refill usually it is 5-6 gallon. I use non ethanol gas to avoid corrosion it is a around $4. At home I pay 8 cents per kW.
 
I have Honda Clarity plug in hybrid. On paper it has 47 EV range and 340 combine. But in reality its about 30-40 EV.
When you go to a long trip I have to fill gas tank every 200 miles. I would like to minimally use battery during long trip and need to keep some amount of gas before gas station.
So I estimate that in real world for Scout during long trip range will be much less. Usually, when you go for vacation you have many family members and a lot of staff in a car. Even for EV I would estimate real range as about 250-300, as for Harvester keep in mind that you will not at the same charge battery and fill gas tank. I would estimate each stop at a gas station will give you extra 250-300 miles.
Out of curiosity, based on how this is written, what other Slavic language do you speak (shot in the dark?). My wife is Croatian and the language patterns in English you use are similar to my relatives when they speak English. Makes
me curious if you speak another language?
 
For Honda clarity mpg = 40, gas tank 7, ev range 47, hybrid range = 340- 47 = 293. Battery 17 kW.
Actuall range is much smaller and when you refill usually it is 5-6 gallon. I use non ethanol gas to avoid corrosion it is a around $4. At home I pay 8 cents per kW.
I punched in those numbers for comparison:
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and got this for costs on that the same 40 mile trip that I mentioned in the last post (notice this estimates your fuel economy closer to 42MPG)

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In a scout (with harvester) that same 40 miles in your location should look something more like:

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and to make things more interesting, a 340 mile trip:

Clarity
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Since we're using fuel in this scenario, I also lied about your fuel capacity (7.3 Gal) to bring the fuel economy down closer to your real life reported number and got
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Scout
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Obviously my numbers are assuming, speculation and guessing, but you can check my math by comparing your real life experience in costs, and adjust the scout by a similar ratio.
 
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I punched in those numbers for comparison:
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and got this for costs on that the same 40 mile trip that I mentioned in the last post (notice this estimates your fuel economy closer to 42MPG)

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In a scout (with harvester) that same 40 miles in your location should look something more like:

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and to make things more interesting, a 340 mile trip:

Clarity
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Since we're using fuel in this scenario, I also lied about your fuel capacity (7.3 Gal) to bring the fuel economy down closer to your real life reported number and got
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Scout
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Obviously my numbers are assuming, speculation and guessing, but you can check my math by comparing your real life experience in costs, and adjust the scout by a similar ratio.
Ugh math. Thank you for doing this.
 
Ugh math. Thank you for doing this.
While I was playing with those numbers, I added some comparisons for other vehicles. This is for a 500 mile trip starting from a place where electricity costs $0.13 per kWh.

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P.S. If anyone wants to add their known MPG into the list, I'm happy to add it for additional context. all I need is a name and MPG.

P.P.S. don't judge me for the LandCruiser's fuel consumption...
 
While I was playing with those numbers, I added some comparisons for other vehicles. This is for a 500 mile trip starting from a place where electricity costs $0.13 per kWh.

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P.S. If anyone wants to add their known MPG into the list, I'm happy to add it for additional context. all I need is a name and MPG.

P.P.S. don't judge me for the LandCruiser's fuel consumption...
Jeep wrangler. I get 14 as well.