R2 Launch Watch

[Scout_Lookout]

As long as it’s not a stupid sand paper sticker like my Wrangler bumper had. That was a terrible design.

@Jamie@ScoutMotors to prevent from having the wrath of Cyure come down on y'all I strongly advise not to put any stupid sand paper stickers on her PYB Traveler

 

[speedrye]

It’s not easy to see, but I was looking for details about the bumper specifically.


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The Traveler had its tailgate open, but I could see that I wouldn’t be happy with its bumper either.

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I was looking at the plastic bumper on the Traveler, which has the flat-ish top. Interesting that the "upgraded" steel/modular bumper doesn't. Still too small to get much more than your toes on there. I wonder how much aero is playing in to these decisions?

 

[R1TVT]

Yeah, not a huge fan of that bumper, but better than my R1T's in terms of projecting away from the tailgate...

I installed a steal ARB front bumper on a Tundra (long time ago now) and it was awesome.
Something like a rear "Scout version" of that bumper on the Terra would be great.
No need to reinvent the wheel, Scout could just copy some of the better elements of the aftermarket designs that already exist.
Hopefully Scout is listening! ;-)

 

[cyure]

It’s not easy to see, but I was looking for details about the bumper specifically.


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The Traveler had its tailgate open, but I could see that I wouldn’t be happy with its bumper either.

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Here’s one with it closed.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Here’s one with it closed.

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Yeah, to me that’s a useless bumper-as-step. And the tailgate down doesn’t always provide the solution I need that stepping on a bumper provides.

 

[speedrye]

Yeah, to me that’s a useless bumper-as-step. And the tailgate down doesn’t always provide the solution I need that stepping on a bumper provides.

Now if that silver center panel folded down as a step, I'd be pretty happy. I'm short. Even if that bumper was a plateau with great traction, it still wouldn't be useful for me, being ~30"-32" off the ground. A folding solution wouldn't work when towing, but I usually step on the tongue anyway in those situations.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Now if that silver center panel folded down as a step, I'd be pretty happy. I'm short. Even if that bumper was a plateau with great traction, it still wouldn't be useful for me, being ~30"-32" off the ground. A folding solution wouldn't work when towing, but I usually step on the tongue anyway in those situations.

Agreed. That would be helpful too (when not towing).

I do like the Lightning and Silverado tailgates with steps.

Even so, I still use the bumper a LOT. There are many times where the tailgate just doesn’t provide what I need.

Silverado (not my photo—I stole it off the intertubes):

 

[Gottesacker]

Didn't Scout already address the bed access concern with the massive side step at the front of the bed? Also most of the time if I'm climbing up into the bed of my truck I drop the tailgate first. If not stand on the tire, but with R1T owners (via the gear tunnel door) and with the Scout concept design there seems to be a perfectly useful solution to bed access.

It depends on the scenario. There's a lot of cases where I use the bumper as a step. If I just need to reach in and grab something real quick I don't want to have to lower/raise the tailgate. I also have a diamondback on my current truck, so I'm loading/unloading materials on there a lot. Sometimes I need the extra height that jumping on the bumper can give for sending ratchet straps where I need them.

 

[Gottesacker]

Agreed. That would be helpful too (when not towing).

I do like the Lightning and Silverado tailgates with steps.

I had the Gen 1 design that Ford did for their tailgate step. When I went from the 2012 to the 2015 my current truck doesn't have it. It's the only thing I always regretted... that and the fact that the truck isn't green like I originally wanted.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Didn't Scout already address the bed access concern with the massive side step at the front of the bed? Also most of the time if I'm climbing up into the bed of my truck I drop the tailgate first. If not stand on the tire, but with R1T owners (via the gear tunnel door) and with the Scout concept design there seems to be a perfectly useful solution to bed access.

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No.

That step is only useful for stuff at the roof rack or by the cab.
And dropping the tailgate is only sometimes useful/helpful.

 

[Gottesacker]

No.

That step is only useful for stuff at the roof rack or by the cab.
And dropping the tailgate is only sometimes useful/helpful.

That said, I'm excited about that step, too. I currently have to straddle one foot on the passenger step, and one on the tire to reach to the bottom of my bed, haha. I'm sure it looks absolutely ridiculous.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

That said, I'm excited about that step, too. I currently have to straddle one foot on the passenger step, and one on the tire to reach to the bottom of my bed, haha. I'm sure it looks absolutely ridiculous.

For sure. It’s helpful, just not sufficient.

 

[J Alynn]

I'd love to know more about why painted plastic bumpers look so different than their painted metal counterparts. You see it on new cars all the time. Is it just related to the more flexible additives needed for the plastic bumpers? I think bumpers are sprayed at a different time than the body, so is it just the different paint lots?

I was once told it’s the difference in the micro finish of the materials but don’t know if that is true.

 

[J Alynn]

I’m really hoping we can get steel bumpers without having to buy some giant offroad package and a winch. I have steel bumpers on the Wrangler and I love them. You can stand on them, if a shopping cart hits them it’s no big deal. Loading things in and out you can safely rest them on the bumper no problem. I for sure want steel bumpers.
I agree. We don’t upgrade on the Bronco when we got it/had it and had always wished I did
My rear bumper had what I call a sandpaper sticker in the middle so you could stand on it and didn’t slip. It was a dumb idea. It kept peeling off. I asked every mechanic and detailer if they had an idea to replace that dumb thing. Finally a detail shop that also did Rhino Liner said just coat it with Rhino Liner. That was a great idea. It looks great, you don’t slip and it matches the texture of my rock sliders.

 

[speedrye]

All this bumper talk reminded me of beer.

I use my front and rear bumpers as a coaster quite often, usually when I'm cursing at that vehicle or some other nearby project.

 

[J Alynn]

All this bumper talk reminded me of beer.

I use my front and rear bumpers as a coaster quite often, usually when I'm cursing at that vehicle or some other nearby project.

Thank God they have the integrated cup/bottle/can holders at the frunk and the tailgate at rear. You will be covered and properly lubricated

 

[cyure]

Rivian Halts Half Moon Grey R2 Deliveries Over Paint Issue

Rivian has paused deliveries of Half Moon Grey R2 vehicles over a paint matching issue with pre-painted exterior parts. Around 800 vehicles are affected.

riviantrackr.com

 

[Scout_Lookout]

Rivian Halts Half Moon Grey R2 Deliveries Over Paint Issue

Rivian has paused deliveries of Half Moon Grey R2 vehicles over a paint matching issue with pre-painted exterior parts. Around 800 vehicles are affected.

riviantrackr.com

I always find it funny when people get shocked by things like this, but they don't know anything about when Tesla launched the Plaid Model S they had horrendous fitment issues and they flew in as many body tech and painters to create what was a literal assembly line of working in the parking lot at the factory to get as many cars corrected as possible before the launch. I'm not talking about small repairs either, I'm talking removal of bumpers, doors, hoods, etc. This "mishap" by Rivian is minor to what Tesla has experienced.

If anyone wants to know about the Model X windshield nightmare let me know lol!

 

[J Alynn]

Rivian Halts Half Moon Grey R2 Deliveries Over Paint Issue

Rivian has paused deliveries of Half Moon Grey R2 vehicles over a paint matching issue with pre-painted exterior parts. Around 800 vehicles are affected.

riviantrackr.com

Well now I am satisfied that it was truly an issue. But back to @SpaceEVDriver ywo grays that close and now a matching issue. Too much cowbell and not enough rainbow!