Is there anything SM could offer to get you to switch from EREV to BEV?
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Depending on the type of panel you have, you might be able to free up extra space in it so you can put in a 50amp breaker for a level 2 charger. A friend had a similar issue - not enough room in his panel for a new circuit. His solution was to get tandem 15amp breakers so he could put two 15amp circuits in a single slot. Search for "Single Pole Tandem Circuit Breaker" at your hardware store of choice. That will be much cheaper than adding a 100amp panel.
Yeah-I’ve looked at that option as well and I think that is doable unless I finish our attic space over our garage then I’m SOL. I’ll know that before I’ll need the charger so at least I’ll know. And then putting in the additional panel makes more sense. I’ve budgeted the $1200 but hoping to avoid it. Since the 200amp panel is in basement right next to garage I may just set a new panel in the garage and feed to the attic bed/bath we may add and have it convenient if we eventually want to go to two EV’s and decide to add a second charger
I guess if you can electrify this thing, you can electrify anything. CAT has a really good use case for electric mining equipment (underground - think no exhaust / no fumes / no pollutants / no carcinogens: https://www.caterpillar.com/en/news...irst-battery-electric-large-mining-truck.html
I would consider a Nesher tractor, but it uses AGM and there are two major issues I have with that.
First is charge time: AGM shouldn’t be charged at faster than about 0.3C, but LFP can be charged at higher rates. This matters because an AGM battery with 14 kWh would take a minimum of 14*0.3 = 4 hours on 240 volts and 8 hours on 120 volts. Most home / non-commercial power can supply up to about 80A at 240 Volts, or about 22 kW. I could double the rated battery capacity and still have a faster charge time (less than two hours).
Second, with AGM, the recommended maximum discharge depth is 50% (some will rate at 80%, and call it deep cycle, but I never like to go below 50% with lead). With LFP, I could discharge to ~0%. So with LFPs, 4x the useful energy can be recharged in less than 1/4 the time.
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The future of electric farming is taking shape at John Deere [video]
Energy independence and cost control are top of mind for farmers, and John Deere is signaling that it intends to lead that revolution.
electrek.co
Dropping my vote for the EREV (Harvester) option, hands down.
I’ve been driving a full EV for the past 14 months, so I’m speaking from experience, not just theory. While I love the benefits (instant torque, home charging, low maintenance), the reality of relying on the current charging network has tempered my enthusiasm.
I dealt with real range anxiety during a previous long commute, and even today, having to meticulously plan longer trips or manage "heavy usage" days is a friction point I’m ready to leave behind.
I originally swore I wouldn't buy an EV until two things happened:
1. 500 miles of real-world range became the standard.
2. 0-100% charging in under 30 minutes was as accessible as a gas pump.
We aren't there yet. I only broke my rule for my current daily driver because the lease incentives in Colorado were too good to pass up. But for a Scout—a vehicle designed to get off the grid and go exploring—the EREV is the only powertrain that actually fits the mission profile. I want the electric driving dynamics, but I refuse to have my adventures tethered to a charging map.
I’ve been driving a full EV for the past 14 months, so I’m speaking from experience, not just theory. While I love the benefits (instant torque, home charging, low maintenance), the reality of relying on the current charging network has tempered my enthusiasm.
I dealt with real range anxiety during a previous long commute, and even today, having to meticulously plan longer trips or manage "heavy usage" days is a friction point I’m ready to leave behind.
I originally swore I wouldn't buy an EV until two things happened:
1. 500 miles of real-world range became the standard.
2. 0-100% charging in under 30 minutes was as accessible as a gas pump.
We aren't there yet. I only broke my rule for my current daily driver because the lease incentives in Colorado were too good to pass up. But for a Scout—a vehicle designed to get off the grid and go exploring—the EREV is the only powertrain that actually fits the mission profile. I want the electric driving dynamics, but I refuse to have my adventures tethered to a charging map.
Pure BEV isn't for everyone.
I'm the complete polar opposite - There is no way in hell I am going back to gas. The majority of my trips I can run from my home charger with Zero range issues and never need a gas station. Many of my long distance trips have a LII charger waiting while my truck is sitting idle at the destination. The other much smaller percentage of my overall driving (long distance driving of more than 300-400 miles) is super easy and convenient with a ton of DCFC infrastructure along the i-95 corridor. The SW easily takes care of my automated route planning, and I prefer to stop and stretch and eat every few hours anyway. Add the required maintenance that the Harvester will demand, and there's an easy choice for me.
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I go back and forth on this decision weekly... (I probably need the 2 years to get my crap together!)
I have reserved both (before I found out I didn’t need to and could make a change at order time). I really don’t want the Harvester. We currently have an EV and are very comfortable with it. The issue for me, is living in the Southwest (New Mexico) the charging stations are quite limited. For example, took a drive to Taos and while there were supposed to be two charging options, one had vandalism (cables cut) and the other was out of order – a local said for weeks. There is now a SuperCharger "coming soon" there, but that's a city. A very sparsely populated, 5th largest state in the country leads to limited charging options especially in the beautiful areas that we explore.
If there were just a few more reliable chargers in the more wild areas, it would be a no-brainer. By the time the Scout arrives, it may be more viable to go BEV, but with the federal investment changes on charging infrastructure, I'm not hopeful. Note the maps below of the northern part of NM and southern part of CO and of the whole state of NM. That illustrates the challenge. If anyone else is living with an off-road vehicle (e.g. Rivian) and using it as such in the area, I would love to hear your experience, convince me – I don't want the Harvester if I can help it.
All of this.
By the end of the calendar year, we’ll have done 80,000 miles in our EVs. And we’re solidly in the middle of the pack of EV driving distances. At least 50% of our miles have been road tripping long (>450 miles one way) road trips. With the experiences over the past years, there has only been one single location where we thought about going that required something other than a decision to go. We had to plan an out-of-the-way stop for the return trip. (Then the place burned down in a massive wildfire
so we skipped it on our way to a different campsite.)Out here in the southwest, it looks sparse, but it’s really been quite easy to get wherever we’ve wanted to go. This map doesn’t include the local exploring once we reach our destination, just the point-a-to-point-b mapping.
John deere has been trying for years to make electric autonomous tractors. I remember few years back when the failed at it and they decided to just throw a diesel in it and called it a day. And then they got the electric power train. both looked like a deere with no cab. Just the long Hood they have.The future of electric farming is taking shape at John Deere [video]
Energy independence and cost control are top of mind for farmers, and John Deere is signaling that it intends to lead that revolution.
It takes years to develop something new, especially in massive companies with no history of building the new technology.
The iPhone took 20 years to bring to market in an industry much, much less conservative.
Something for folks to think about if towing. This is a pretty honest review:
The freak outs feel a little contrived but the discussion is the important part. Try to ignore the drama and focus just on the information.
For my answer to the thread question: Not really. SM seems to be doing everything they can. My issue is where I live and the sporadic nature of how I drive. SC seems hell bent of having it's cake (not supporting EVs via charging infrastructure or direct sales) and eating it too (more jobs and publicity from SM building in the state). I could make a BEV work but I don't want to make something work if I don't have to. If the EREV wasn't an option then I would be looking at owing even more vehicles, fine for me but not my marriage (kidding, but only a little).
I cannot condone talk of that brand of tractors.
. Take a look at this one. https://electrifynews.com/news/work...tomation-and-efficiency-in-focus-at-ces-2024/
I would love to buy a Kubota from you, but you’ve got to get those electrics shipped over here!I cannot condone talk of that brand of tractors.
https://electrifynews.com/news/work...tomation-and-efficiency-in-focus-at-ces-2024/
Love me a good Kubota tractor. That one is cool tooI cannot condone talk of that brand of tractors.
https://electrifynews.com/news/work...tomation-and-efficiency-in-focus-at-ces-2024/
No, there is nothing they could or can do to make me change. There is no "fence". I like ICE engines. And if you have seen my previous posts, there are places I go that are very remote, so I don't want or need the drama. The convenience of easily filling up with fuel is what I want and need. EREV's already low maintenance. We have had Hybrids in our fleet for years, and even when they come in for "maintenance", the oil looks brand new. With many of ancillaries being power by the HV battery, I think maintenance on the little ICE engine will be very simple. There is no "tune up" on engine anymore. Hoses and belts last well past 50k. Coolant is 100k. Spark plugs 100k. What else is there to do?
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