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[R1TVT]

Keep in mind that features inside a vehicle are generally configurable and completely optional. Enable what you want - at least in all of the trucks that I have owned recently don't mandate me to turn everything on.

I have no idea what the InsideEV article said, but the current iteration of Rivian's Assistant does not work unless you OPT-IN, and it certainly would not make ACP obsolete unless Rivian natively supported all ACP apps directly through the Rivian Infotainment System. Yes, I have native Spotify in my R1T, which is great - but there is no WAZE, for example.

I'm so uninterested in ai slop in my vehicles that this probably removes Rivian from my shopping list.

Rivian's AI implementation is quite good, based on my limited use & interaction with it (since it was just released). Based on the ability to call the assistant (hands-free) and use it to perform multiple tasks at once, it has not only been convenient, but I would also consider it to be a less distracting way to perform certain tasks. I would say AI can be a safety improvement for drivers if implemented well. Have you used it?

When I hear the term "AI slop" I equate that with results (not AI systems)... Humans conveying, relaying or using sloppy results that are rendered from AI... To me, that is where the slop is.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Keep in mind that features inside a vehicle are generally configurable and completely optional. Enable what you want - at least in all of the trucks that I have owned recently don't mandate me to turn everything on.

I have no idea what the InsideEV article said, but the current iteration of Rivian's Assistant does not work unless you OPT-IN, and it certainly would not make ACP obsolete unless Rivian natively supported all ACP apps directly through the Rivian Infotainment System. Yes, I have native Spotify in my R1T, which is great - but there is no WAZE, for example.


Rivian's AI implementation is quite good, based on my limited use & interaction with it (since it was just released). Based on the ability to call the assistant (hands-free) and use it to perform multiple tasks at once, it has not only been convenient, but I would also consider it to be a less distracting way to perform certain tasks. I would say AI can be a safety improvement for drivers if implemented well. Have you used it?

When I hear the term "AI slop" I equate that with results (not AI systems)... Humans conveying, relaying or using sloppy results that are rendered from AI... To me, that is where the slop is.

I think what he’s talking is that it does effectively force you into it by not giving you an alternative. E.g. everyone saying they want CarPlay, Rivs response is you can use AI instead, so CarPlay is not an option. Same with physical controls. Your choice is menus on a touch screen or AI, no buttons allowed. Most folks would have no problem if they were actually given a choice, but that’s not what rivian is providing. They’re saying “you’ll use ai and you’ll like it, so we’re declaring a war on buttons”, partially to save money, but mostly to force users to do things the way Rivian thinks they should, not the way the customer wants to.

I think the term AI Slop has broader meaning, including the current trend to push it everywhere, even when it doesn’t make sense. Yes, if implemented well it can contribute to safety, but the whole thing is very complex and needs much more careful consideration than is typical from the tech bro crowd.