Engine in the Harvester - EA211 ?

[bobz]

Interesting read on the potential of the EA211 engine as the Range Extender in 1.2 or 1.4 liter versions and being made in Mexico.

Scout Will Source Its Four-Cylinder Range Extender from Mexico: Update

We're still a couple years away from full production, but more information has recently been shared about the new Scout Motors models — specifically the "Harvester" gasoline range extender.

tflcar.com

 

[Chavannigans]

We discussed this in the Extra Extra Read
All About It thread.

If I am not mistaken that factory makes turbo charged engines and the Harvester is supposed to be naturally aspirated. It will be interesting to see what they end up doing.

 

[Chuckles]

Interesting read on the potential of the EA211 engine as the Range Extender in 1.2 or 1.4 liter versions and being made in Mexico.

Scout Will Source Its Four-Cylinder Range Extender from Mexico: Update

We're still a couple years away from full production, but more information has recently been shared about the new Scout Motors models — specifically the "Harvester" gasoline range extender.

tflcar.com

I'm not sure why the article says the EA211 isn't used in the USA. A 1.5 turbo EA211 is used in the Taos and Jetta.

 

[Chavannigans]

I just hope it isn’t a vibey 3 cylinder

 

[merrelljohnson]

Does any one know if, in the event the motor fails, if the Scouts will still operate properly as a full electric?

 

[dreamweaver]

Does any one know if, in the event the motor fails, if the Scouts will still operate properly as a full electric?

That is a very good question I hope we get a definitive answer to. This seems very likely.

 

[R1TVT]

Does any one know if, in the event the motor fails, if the Scouts will still operate properly as a full electric?

Yes, it absolutely should, and just as any other Pure EV would... Without a functioning Harvester generator, the truck would likely pop-up a warning message "Harvester requires immediate service" & require external charging of course (without the generator producing power).

The opposite would not be true though - The vehicle could not run in the opposite scenario (if the Harvester were operational and the BEV drivetrain failed). Should the battery, BMS or electric motors not run, Harvester would not make any difference without a physical connection to an axle, and even then it would be power de-limited.

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

Does any one know if, in the event the motor fails, if the Scouts will still operate properly as a full electric?

My understanding is that an EV mode is one of the driving modes. The vehicle runs purely electric until a very low SOC.

 

[THil08]

Does any one know if, in the event the motor fails, if the Scouts will still operate properly as a full electric?

It should. The Engine only produces energy for the motors and battery to use and store. If they battery was topped off and the harvester went down and you have 150miles, it should allow you to drive. Because the entire drivetrain is an EV.

 

[THil08]

My understanding is that an EV mode is one of the driving modes. The vehicle runs purely electric until a very low SOC.

I wouldn't be saying a Very low SOC(also after watching a outofspec testing video I would say never come close to a very low SOC). Harvester is said to kick on before it every reaches a very low SOC. and that no one knows about yet. It could be 10%, 15%, 20%, no one knows yet.

I'm hoping we find something out closer to q1 of 2026.

 

[dreamweaver]

I wouldn't be saying a Very low SOC(also after watching a outofspec testing video I would say never come close to a very low SOC). Harvester is said to kick on before it every reaches a very low SOC. and that no one knows about yet. It could be 10%, 15%, 20%, no one knows yet.

I'm hoping we find something out closer to q1 of 2026.

I believe 6-ScoutFamily was referring to purposely placing the vehicle into EV ONLY mode. Then you could drive it to a low SOC.

 

[THil08]

I believe 6-ScoutFamily was referring to purposely placing the vehicle into EV ONLY mode. Then you could drive it to a low SOC.

ohhh.

 

[R1TVT]

I believe 6-ScoutFamily was referring to purposely placing the vehicle into EV ONLY mode. Then you could drive it to a low SOC.

Correct, if Scout offered a pure-EV mode with the harvester config, the burden would be on the driver to enable that mode, and to accept the consequences that come with enabling it. A driver would need to understand that if they drive to a low SOC, they may need to wait for the Harvester to produce enough electricity to be able to resume driving, or of course to plug in and charge. A pure-EV mode would allow a user to choose NOT to enable the gas Harvester on any given trip. This would hypothetically impact the ability for the vehicle to "gas and go" from a low SOC.

A "pure" feature like this could be useful for commuting, for example, if you knew you were going to plug in and re-charge upon arriving at work (assuming that were an option) and the driver preferred not to burn gas and run the Harvester unnecessarily, or if the Pure VS Harvester ride were quieter with less cabin noise and a driver just wanted a quieter driving experience. I'm sure there are other scenarios for this. All TBD based on implementation in production though.