Please don't put the Harvester engine behind/below the rear axle

[J Alynn]

And

Still haven't seen much about maintainability or impact to cargo area?

Presuming they are still flushing things out. It takes time. Patience is a virtue

 

[THil08]

This.

Don’t pay too much attention to a patent drawing. They aren’t real drawings of what things look like, they are a “yeah that looks fine as long as we get the patent” type drawing.

 

[THil08]

Remember, the battery pack weighs more than the engine and generator. Since the Harvester has a smaller battery pack than the full BEV model, we move it forward to redistribute the weight. Lots of speculation out there.

The fuel tank will be under the rear seats correct? And the fuel neck is upfront still? Or no?

 

[THil08]

Very much looking forward to the engine placement aft rear axle and set low enough in the frame to keep EV like driving dynamics due to lower CG. I'll keep my frunk than you very much ;-)

I'm very curious on how serviceability shakes out for the generator - could the configuration even make it possible to disconnect and remove the generator DIY with a heavy duty floor jack and adapter cuz that would be COOL as hell. Possible to run the harvester on EV without the generator present, perhaps in limited mode but enough to service generator but not lose use of the vehicle? Unlikely, but one can dream.

I just need mine to be self serviceable lol. That’s too much lol.

 

[J. Sweat]

Seems like OP raised reasonably valid questions. Sorry you got shot down by a deluge of groupthink, OP.

 

[MountainDad]

Seems like OP raised reasonably valid questions. Sorry you got shot down by a deluge of groupthink, OP.

Not unexpected. I mean, it's an SUV or a Pickup - seriously, those who have never had an EV you're not going to miss a frunk. Many of us who have them in sedans never use them. It's like a jetted tub in your house. Shows great, you're like "wow, a jacuzzi in my bedroom!" And then you use it to wash the dog, and that's about it.

 

[MountainDad]

I just need mine to be self serviceable lol. That’s too much lol.

Not sure how easy that's going to be under the rear floor board. And what happens when a fuel pump goes out on the road and you have six days of overlanding gear in the back? I'd rather just pop the hood, root around in a cavernous front end servicing a small slant four, and be on my way.

 

[J Alynn]

Not sure how easy that's going to be under the rear floor board. And what happens when a fuel pump goes out on the road and you have six days of overlanding gear in the back? I'd rather just pop the hood, root around in a cavernous front end servicing a small slant four, and be on my way.

There are plenty of those available to choose from and readily available. Seems like you actually know what you want, just not packaged with a Scout logo.

 

[R1TVT]

Not unexpected. I mean, it's an SUV or a Pickup - seriously, those who have never had an EV you're not going to miss a frunk. Many of us who have them in sedans never use them. It's like a jetted tub in your house. Shows great, you're like "wow, a jacuzzi in my bedroom!" And then you use it to wash the dog, and that's about it.

This may be true for you, but not for others - that is a broad stroke. I use my Frunk all the time.

I reserve space for groceries in it, have my foul weather gear / rubber boots in it, carry my adapters and EVSE in it, have a sleeping bag in it, as well as some spare clothing, leather gloves, and a recovery strap. I also utilize my gear tunnel & bed weekly for a lot of other things.

The simplicity and storage aspect of my R1T is one of the best selling points. Of course I don't have to worry about a secondary sub-system like an EREV in my R1T, but if Scout can pull-off elegantly packaging its generator without massive performance trade-offs AND retain a frunk, that is a competitive differentiator and something that has already proven to be attractive to buyers (85% of reservation holders I believe?).

Agreed that the jetted tub that came with the purchase of our house gets used 2 or 3 times a year.

 

[cyure]

This may be true for you, but not for others - that is a broad stroke. I use my Frunk all the time.

I reserve space for groceries in it, have my foul weather gear / rubber boots in it, carry my adapters and EVSE in it, have a sleeping bag in it, as well as some spare clothing, leather gloves, and a recovery strap. I also utilize my gear tunnel & bed weekly for a lot of other things.

The simplicity and storage aspect of my R1T is one of the best selling points. Of course I don't have to worry about a secondary sub-system like an EREV in my R1T, but if Scout can pull-off elegantly packaging its generator without massive performance trade-offs AND retain a frunk, that is a competitive differentiator and something that has already proven to be attractive to buyers (85% of reservation holders I believe?).

Agreed that the jetted tub that came with the purchase of our house gets used 2 or 3 times a year.

I can’t wait to have my frunk.

Agree on the jetted tub. Haven’t used the thing in ages.

 

[J Alynn]

I can’t wait to have my frunk.

Agree on the jetted tub. Haven’t used the thing in ages.

I just had a client request a jetted, freestanding tub . Things are far and few between to even find one now. Nearly nobody does jets anymore. And I still think 70% of buyers with soaking tubs don’t use those either

 

[cyure]

I just had a client request a jetted, freestanding tub . Things are far and few between to even find one now. Nearly nobody does jets anymore. And I still think 70% of buyers with soaking tubs don’t use those either

That was one thing I said I didn’t need was the giant corner jetted tub. The location and the rest of the house worked great. Including a front “sitting room” that I turned into my office. I love the high ceiling and the big window so I can see the street. So I have a giant corner jetted tub.

 

[speedrye]

I just had a client request a jetted, freestanding tub . Things are far and few between to even find one now. Nearly nobody does jets anymore. And I still think 70% of buyers with soaking tubs don’t use those either

The free-standing tubs with the air bubbles are pretty nice, like bathing yourself in sparkling water, but I have to agree with @MountainDad on this one, most people don't use their tubs. Ironically, the only time we use ours is exactly as he said, to bathe our dog in the winter. Otherwise, the hot/cold spigot does wonders outside!

Edit: I do keep contemplating removing our tub to make better use of the space, but without being able to match the tile, and not wanting to tear up the existing heated tile flooring, I've given up on the idea, so the pooch gets to keep his tub.

 

[cyure]

The free-standing tubs with the air bubbles are pretty nice, like bathing yourself in sparkling water, but I have to agree with @MountainDad on this one, most people don't use their tubs. Ironically, the only time we use ours is exactly as he said, to bathe our dog in the winter. Otherwise, the hot/cold spigot does wonders outside!

Edit: I do keep contemplating removing our tub to make better use of the space, but without being able to match the tile, and not wanting to tear up the existing heated tile flooring, I've given up on the idea, so the pooch gets to keep his tub.

I had thought the same thing, but it’s all the same tile. The shower. The floor. The side of the tub. Part of the wall. So the tub stays. It just takes so much water to fill that big thing up.

 

[J Alynn]

The free-standing tubs with the air bubbles are pretty nice, like bathing yourself in sparkling water, but I have to agree with @MountainDad on this one, most people don't use their tubs. Ironically, the only time we use ours is exactly as he said, to bathe our dog in the winter. Otherwise, the hot/cold spigot does wonders outside!

Edit: I do keep contemplating removing our tub to make better use of the space, but without being able to match the tile, and not wanting to tear up the existing heated tile flooring, I've given up on the idea, so the pooch gets to keep his tub.

We have a standard freestanding tub and I knew it would be novelty but my wife went from the big tub deck to this so hopefully next house it goes completely. I’d be shocked if she uses it more than 3 or 4 times a year. And we’ve been in the house 11 years now

 

[cyure]

We have a standard freestanding tub and I knew it would be novelty but my wife went from the big tub deck to this so hopefully next house it goes completely. I’d be shocked if she uses it more than 3 or 4 times a year. And we’ve been in the house 11 years now

Next house I want a giant shower. Giant!

 

[J Alynn]

Next house I want a giant shower. Giant!

There is a fine line on giant because at some point it’s just space and no water coverage and it feels cooler. I find 42”-48” x 84” is about as big as I recommend. Then two heads + a handheld cover everything and (adult content warning) two can use at same time with elbowing each other. Also recommend large format tile as less grout is better for cleaning. I’d do stone slabs if I could afford. I’d also do a continuous ledge at 18” high, then you can sit, prop leg to shave and store shampoo/body wash bottles. 6” deep which then allows a 42” floor width since that 6” increases elbow room.
As an idiot creative type I designed ours as a 60” diameter round shower with no door. I’d list all the reasons it was a stupid decision (though it looks awesome) but you would all get bored reading it

 

[cyure]

There is a fine line on giant because at some point it’s just space and no water coverage and it feels cooler. I find 42”-48” x 84” is about as big as I recommend. Then two heads + a handheld cover everything and (adult content warning) two can use at same time with elbowing each other. Also recommend large format tile as less grout is better for cleaning. I’d do stone slabs if I could afford. I’d also do a continuous ledge at 18” high, then you can sit, prop leg to shave and store shampoo/body wash bottles. 6” deep which then allows a 42” floor width since that 6” increases elbow room.
As an idiot creative type I designed ours as a 60” diameter round shower with no door. I’d list all the reasons it was a stupid decision (though it looks awesome) but you would all get bored reading it

As the person who cleans the door, Im all for no door.

 

[J Alynn]

As the person who cleans the door, Im all for no door.

I’m not. Hate cleaning glass doors but no door means all heat and steam leave the shower so it always feels cold. And since the idiot designed the round shower, getting a curved tempered glass shower door is like $4000 so NO DOOR. He was a complete idiot-can’t believe my wife accepted that design idea

 

[Hedges1]

Tub-talk taking over this thread is [chef's kiss]

Frunks rule, BTW. Use it ALL THE TIME and i know exactly how we'll allocate it daily and for adventure trips as we build up the rig.