Do You Want Your Scout To Have A Hands-Free Driving System?

[eddiet1212]

Do You Want Your Scout To Have A Hands-Free Driving System?

I do NOT want my Scout to drive itself.

Part of owning a hands-on vehicle would be the satisfaction of tactile power over your destiny while enjoying the ride.

If I wanted a robo-car then I could buy a future Rivian.

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Rivian to launch hands-free driving system in 2025, 'eyes-off' in 2026

Rivian to launch hands-free driving system in 2025, 'eyes-off' in 2026, CEO says

(Reuters) -Electric-vehicle maker Rivian plans to launch its advanced hands-free driver assistance systems in 2025 and its "eyes-off" systems in 2026, CEO RJ Scaringe said on Thursday. An advanced driver assistance system that enables drivers to take their hands off the wheel and eyes off the...

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[olallafur]

Things I've noticed, experienced, or have been told by others:
With driver assists:
A lot of drivers with it become reliant on instead of staying aware.
if there's lots of road wash, or very foggy, white/silver/gray cars are invisible and will try and drive through them if you don't pay attention.
If its a really wide intersection, cross traffic detection doesn't work when the vehicles are coming from a diagonal.
If a bug splats on the sensor, EVERYTHING becomes an About to Collide and the vehicle will fight you if you wish to continue to drive.
If you rely on the lights warning you of lane change assist, and the light burns out or defective, and you've become reliant on, you could change lanes into someone.
Lane center warnings not always accurate and can try and push you off the road or into oncoming traffic.

 

[LastDayScout]

Things I've noticed, experienced, or have been told by others:
With driver assists:
A lot of drivers with it become reliant on instead of staying aware.
if there's lots of road wash, or very foggy, white/silver/gray cars are invisible and will try and drive through them if you don't pay attention.
If its a really wide intersection, cross traffic detection doesn't work when the vehicles are coming from a diagonal.
If a bug splats on the sensor, EVERYTHING becomes an About to Collide and the vehicle will fight you if you wish to continue to drive.
If you rely on the lights warning you of lane change assist, and the light burns out or defective, and you've become reliant on, you could change lanes into someone.
Lane center warnings not always accurate and can try and push you off the road or into oncoming traffic.

All of this is correct. I will add that coming to a stop light or sign on a long curve doesn’t work every time either because the stopped vehicle isn’t right in front of your car. This occurred with my previous Tesla and my current BMW. We’re still a long way from true hands off/self driving.

 

[MasterSpam]

All of this is correct. I will add that coming to a stop light or sign on a long curve doesn’t work every time either because the stopped vehicle isn’t right in front of your car. This occurred with my previous Tesla and my current BMW. We’re still a long way from true hands off/self driving.

My son's Subaru beeps at him if the car in front moves and he doesn't let up on the brake peddle.... just in case he's not paying attention

 

[AlanL]

Things I've noticed, experienced, or have been told by others:
With driver assists:
A lot of drivers with it become reliant on instead of staying aware.
if there's lots of road wash, or very foggy, white/silver/gray cars are invisible and will try and drive through them if you don't pay attention.
If its a really wide intersection, cross traffic detection doesn't work when the vehicles are coming from a diagonal.
If a bug splats on the sensor, EVERYTHING becomes an About to Collide and the vehicle will fight you if you wish to continue to drive.
If you rely on the lights warning you of lane change assist, and the light burns out or defective, and you've become reliant on, you could change lanes into someone.
Lane center warnings not always accurate and can try and push you off the road or into oncoming traffic.

All good points that I agree with. I’ll add a personal point about active lane centering as opposed to warnings. We have a 2023 Honda Pilot that does active lane centering and is not naggy. We never trust just it entirely, we use it as an aid keeping hands lightly on the wheel and paying attention. It does a much better job of being truly centered than us by hand almost all the time. A huge stress relief over a long towing day.

 

[John Mc]

I have absolutely ZERO interest in owning a vehicle with self driving capability.

 

[larryjustin]

I'd support https://comma.ai/openpilot , and let them focus on the essentials. Embrace the community, keep the ethos of user replaceable parts alive.

Sorry buddy. That’s a no.
Because: FlexRay.

Now, if the Scout uses CANBus, I’ll hack it myself. : )

 

[JackieTrades]

I enjoy having it as an option but, I don’t use it for everyday driving. Just drove a friend’s Honda Passport for a 2500 mile trip and the lane centering was overbearing and not smooth. I do like adaptive cruise though.

 

[cyure]

I enjoy having it as an option but, I don’t use it for everyday driving. Just drove a friend’s Honda Passport for a 2500 mile trip and the lane centering was overbearing and not smooth. I do like adaptive cruise though.

Welcome to the community.

 

[AlanL]

I enjoy having it as an option but, I don’t use it for everyday driving. Just drove a friend’s Honda Passport for a 2500 mile trip and the lane centering was overbearing and not smooth. I do like adaptive cruise though.

Welcome! All personal preference of course, but what year was the Passport? The lane centering on our 2023 Pilot is smooth and not overbearing to us. Lane centering sometimes drifts a bit as offramps split to the right. The adaptive cruise control tends to hang on too long when the vehicle in front of us exits, slowing us down with them when they are fully out of our lane. I try to hit cancel if that is about to happen then resume after a few seconds.

 

[Daniel55645]

I enjoyed it on my Model S I had years ago, but I've owned multiple vehicles since, and haven't really missed it.
So if it's included, great. If it costs extra to have, I won't get it.

 

[Dana]

Yes. I love and adore Autosteer. And adaptive cruise control. So much more relaxing on a long trip.

 

[nedkingsly]

I would love it to have a hands free driving mode - like Tesla and Rivian.

Let’s not forget that these are not due realistically until very late 2027/ early 2028……. Look at the leaps that Tesla has made in a short period of time with self driving - it’s the future and it will be what customers will come to expect.

And having the vehicle drive itself on long road trips - game changing!

 

[dreamweaver]

I enjoyed it on my Model S I had years ago, but I've owned multiple vehicles since, and haven't really missed it.
So if it's included, great. If it costs extra to have, I won't get it.

Scout. “People. Connections. Community. Authenticity." Welcome to the Scout community. Enjoy the ride.

 

[J Alynn]

I would love it to have a hands free driving mode - like Tesla and Rivian.

Let’s not forget that these are not due realistically until very late 2027/ early 2028……. Look at the leaps that Tesla has made in a short period of time with self driving - it’s the future and it will be what customers will come to expect.

And having the vehicle drive itself on long road trips - game changing!

Respectfully disagree. The Scouts have always been about physical interaction but this subject has been beat to death. @Jamie@ScoutMotors has already stated level 2 will be the extent of autonomous driving

 

[cyure]

Respectfully disagree. The Scouts have always been about physical interaction but this subject has been beat to death. @Jamie@ScoutMotors has already stated level 2 will be the extent of autonomous driving

And another point. Yes production doesn’t start until late 2027 (what is being estimate at the moment) but the Scouts and being designed, engineered and tested now.

 

[Time2Roll]

No I would specifically avoid a self driving option. The most I would want is adaptive cruise control. Even that is not needed.
Lane control and the rest, no thanks. Don't spend start up capital on this mess.

 

[ThFocus]

Do You Want Your Scout To Have A Hands-Free Driving System?

I do NOT want my Scout to drive itself.

Part of owning a hands-on vehicle would be the satisfaction of tactile power over your destiny while enjoying the ride.

If I wanted a robo-car then I could buy a future Rivian.

Reuters
Rivian to launch hands-free driving system in 2025, 'eyes-off' in 2026

Rivian to launch hands-free driving system in 2025, 'eyes-off' in 2026, CEO says

(Reuters) -Electric-vehicle maker Rivian plans to launch its advanced hands-free driver assistance systems in 2025 and its "eyes-off" systems in 2026, CEO RJ Scaringe said on Thursday. An advanced driver assistance system that enables drivers to take their hands off the wheel and eyes off the...

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Thanks but No Thanks!

 

[MasterSpam]

Absolutely not.

 

[Chavannigans]

You can drive across my state from sunrise to sunset and still be a within our borders.

I will take all the driving assistance I can get!

I’ve done plenty of 16 hour day road trips with no breaks and I’m ready to relax and enjoy the journey more without having to be so focused on driving.

Even a 20 minute break on a straight stretch of interstate is refreshing like a bidet for the brain.

 

[R1TVT]

There is a very BIG difference between driver assistance systems and FSD or Autopilot... Driver assistance is basically table stakes for all new entrants and pre-existing OEM's. There is no mandate to use it if your vehicle has it. Scout is very smart in offering a Driver Assistance feature - all the tech is being built into the truck for safety anyway (and this will increase Scout's sales numbers dramatically).

I love driving my truck, but when I am roadtripping for endless hours in a straight line down I-95, it is very relaxing to be able to let the truck take some of the burden. It required a shift in mindset for me, but when I realized I really wasn't doing anything other than going in a straight line anyway, it allowed me to arrive feeling more relaxed and refreshed after hundreds of miles, I'm not sure I would ever want a truck without it now.

Keep in mind, you NEED to still be alert with these systems and keep a hand on the wheel!