R2 Launch Watch

[J Alynn]

Well this seems fast.

R2 Fast Charging Test Beats Rivian’s Own 29 Minute Claim

The first independent Rivian R2 fast charging test clocks 10 to 80 percent in 26.9 minutes, beating Rivian's own 29 minute estimate.

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Glad to see others will perform and cut into T’s profits

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Things I like:

• The size. This is a much more workable size for my needs than the R1S and even the Scout. After seeing the Traveler in person, I've really been worried about how big it is.

Yeah, I’m thinking I might need to wait for a smaller Scout. I just can’t abide the lack of buttons and mechanical door handles in the r2, though otherwise it seems pretty good.

 

[geekswrath]

This has me genuinely excited for Scout. I watched Engineering Explained "review" of the R2 at launch. I like the R2 and it seems like a lot of the complaints and kinks have been addressed. I still don't like the styling and I need a truck. Since there is no RT2, I am still hopeful that the Terra will be closer to what that would be vs the current R1T or full size Lightening/Silverado.

 

[cyure]

This has me genuinely excited for Scout. I watched Engineering Explained "review" of the R2 at launch. I like the R2 and it seems like a lot of the complaints and kinks have been addressed. I still don't like the styling and I need a truck. Since there is no RT2, I am still hopeful that the Terra will be closer to what that would be vs the current R1T or full size Lightening/Silverado.

The Terra is a full size truck. It’s larger than the R1T. It’s basically the size of a Lightning.

 

[Gottesacker]

This has me genuinely excited for Scout. I watched Engineering Explained "review" of the R2 at launch. I like the R2 and it seems like a lot of the complaints and kinks have been addressed. I still don't like the styling and I need a truck. Since there is no RT2, I am still hopeful that the Terra will be closer to what that would be vs the current R1T or full size Lightening/Silverado.

Specs put the Terra very much in full-size territory. If we’re lucky maybe their 4th vehicle launch could be a midsize truck.

 

[geekswrath]

I sit corrected. For some reason I though the R1T was a full size. In some dimensions the Terra is a little smaller than the Lightening but, granted, not by much. I'll take what I can get.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I sit corrected. For some reason I though the R1T was a full size. In some dimensions the Terra is a little smaller than the Lightening but, granted, not by much. I'll take what I can get.

It depends on your definition of “full size.”
The R1T is 80 inches wide and 217 inches long.

That’s on the shorter end of the 2026 F-150 range of dimensions, but still within that range.
The XL Regular Cab, 6.5 ft bed is 209.4 inches long.
The XL Supercab 6.5 ft bed is 232 inches.
Any higher trim SuperCrew w/6.5 bed is 243 inches.

I don’t think anyone could successfully convince me that the XL Regular Cab with a 6.5 ft bed is not a “full size” pickup.
I’m similarly unconvinced by statements that the R1T is anything other than a full-sized truck.

And some of the R1Ts have a GVWR that pushes them into the (low end of) federal heavy-duty rating (F250).

 

[Gottesacker]

It depends on your definition of “full size.”
The R1T is 80 inches wide and 217 inches long.

That’s on the shorter end of the 2026 F-150 range of dimensions, but still within that range.
The XL Regular Cab, 6.5 ft bed is 209.4 inches long.
The XL Supercab 6.5 ft bed is 232 inches.
Any higher trim SuperCrew w/6.5 bed is 243 inches.

I don’t think anyone could successfully convince me that the XL Regular Cab with a 6.5 ft bed is not a “full size” pickup.
I’m similarly unconvinced by statements that the R1T is anything other than a full-sized truck.

And some of the R1Ts have a GVWR that pushes them into the (low end of) federal heavy-duty rating (F250).

I always compared the R1T to the crew cab trucks specifically. Same with the Terra. I always figured that gave a better frame of reference for the size.

 

[Logan]

I always compared the R1T to the crew cab trucks specifically. Same with the Terra. I always figured that gave a better frame of reference for the size.

Agreed.

Apples to apples and all of that. Because there were always odd standouts where overall length could overlap on vehicles of
different sizes.

For instance, the Toyota T100 regular cab longbed, was also a 209in overall length, just like the F150 XL Regular cab with a 6.5ft bed. But those trucks are wildly different in most other aspects (not just the time difference).

And by that metric, the R1T is a bit on the smaller size.

Not really related, but sort of. I got into a friendly argument with a buddy of mine ages ago about what a "full size" pickup was. He was adamant that "full size" meant "1/2 ton" (F150 class), and also that no one actually used the term anymore. He was also the one that called all SUV's "trucks", and didn't believe me when I told him that you could still get a 6 passenger Pickup truck.

 

[Gottesacker]

Agreed.

Apples to apples and all of that. Because there were always odd standouts where overall length could overlap on vehicles of
different sizes.

For instance, the Toyota T100 regular cab longbed, was also a 209in overall length, just like the F150 XL Regular cab with a 6.5ft bed. But those trucks are wildly different in most other aspects (not just the time difference).

And by that metric, the R1T is a bit on the smaller size.

Not really related, but sort of. I got into a friendly argument with a buddy of mine ages ago about what a "full size" pickup was. He was adamant that "full size" meant "1/2 ton" (F150 class), and also that no one actually used the term anymore. He was also the one that called all SUV's "trucks", and didn't believe me when I told him that you could still get a 6 passenger Pickup truck.

You know thinking about it, I think the R1T having such a short bed is what has always led me to think it's much smaller than it is. It just doesn't compare well in that regard to other full-size trucks.

 

[R1TVT]

Terra will feel much more like a lightening than the R1T when it comes to dims, interior space and bed length.

 

[J Alynn]

Specs put the Terra very much in full-size territory. If we’re lucky maybe their 4th vehicle launch could be a midsize truck.

Would make sense

 

[J Alynn]

You know thinking about it, I think the R1T having such a short bed is what has always led me to think it's much smaller than it is. It just doesn't compare well in that regard to other full-size trucks.

That is my viewpoint as well. The shorter bed makes me think smaller

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Sure the bed is smaller, but every other dimension puts it well within the dimension ranges of all other full-size trucks, including its towing and cargo capacities.

Another reason people think it's smaller than it is is because they usually see it parked with the suspension all the way down. That makes it look smaller too.

 

[R1TVT]

Sure the bed is smaller, but every other dimension puts it well within the dimension ranges of all other full-size trucks, including its towing and cargo capacities.

Another reason people think it's smaller than it is is because they usually see it parked with the suspension all the way down. That makes it look smaller too.

Yes, it often does appear smaller when lowered.

The real difference to me (after sitting inside a Ford or other full sized p/u like my old Silverado crew cab) is the space in the second row and overall passenger cabin square footage. I have no complaints about the space in my truck, but sitting in back is certainly not the same as sitting in a full-sized pickup - maybe b/c the gear tunnel took away space from the rear (~12 cubic feet).

According to the internets the cubic footage of the passenger cabin space in the R1T is only 60' and the F-150 is 132' so that is where the smaller feeling really hits home - not so much for the driver, but for the second row passengers.

 

[Gottesacker]

Sure the bed is smaller, but every other dimension puts it well within the dimension ranges of all other full-size trucks, including its towing and cargo capacities.

Another reason people think it's smaller than it is is because they usually see it parked with the suspension all the way down. That makes it look smaller too.

Actually first time I ever noticed that was just a few months ago. I saw one parked next to a VW Atlas (my wife has one of those) and I was shocked at how close in overall size it was, which I then realized it had been lowered using the suspension.

Not saying it doesn't necessarily deserve the "full-size" category, it just doesn't look it a lot of the time, and yea that bed length disappointed me the first time I saw that specification.

 

[Logan]

Yes, it often does appear smaller when lowered.

The real difference to me (after sitting inside a Ford or other full sized p/u like my old Silverado crew cab) is the space in the second row and overall passenger cabin square footage. I have no complaints about the space in my truck, but sitting in back is certainly not the same as sitting in a full-sized pickup - maybe b/c the gear tunnel took away space from the rear (~12 cubic feet).

According to the internets the cubic footage of the passenger cabin space in the R1T is only 60' and the F-150 is 132' so that is where the smaller feeling really hits home - not so much for the driver, but for the second row passengers.

This is exactly the main way I've felt it as well. In terms of passenger space/volume.

 

[cyure]

So Rivian has extended warranties, but for some reason they aren’t available in every state.

Never having owned an EV before is an extended warranty something I would even need? I am very thankful for my lifetime warranty on my Wrangler and I plan on keeping my Scout for a long time like my Wrangler so do I need to get one for my Scout or is this not necessary.

Rivian Care Coverage Guide for R1 and R2 Owners – RivianTrackr

Rivian Care is two plans, not one. What the Vehicle Service Contract and Preferred Vehicle Protection cover for R1 and R2 owners, and what they leave out.

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[strider]

So Rivian has extended warranties, but for some reason they aren’t available in every state.

Never having owned an EV before is an extended warranty something I would even need? I am very thankful for my lifetime warranty on my Wrangler and I plan on keeping my Scout for a long time like my Wrangler so do I need to get one for my Scout or is this not necessary.

Rivian Care Coverage Guide for R1 and R2 Owners – RivianTrackr

Rivian Care is two plans, not one. What the Vehicle Service Contract and Preferred Vehicle Protection cover for R1 and R2 owners, and what they leave out.

riviantrackr.com

I have never purchased one for any of my EVs. In my experience, major EV components fail early or last a very long time. Things will wear out (like suspension bushings and such) but those earn't typically covered by extended warranties since they are wear and tear. I think we will know before the end of the standard warranty if an extended warranty is needed. The wildcard for me will be the ebeam axle as I believe that is a new product from the manufacturer. Also the infotainment stuff. Early on Tesla had issues with their screens yellowing due to heat. No one had ever put a 17" touchscreen in a car before so there was some challenges to overcome. I would hope that those kinds of issues are sorted now.

Here's the main thing for me. Aside from the solid axle, nothing in the BEV Scout is pushing technological boundaries. The Harvester is to some degree but it's really just a series hybrid with a big battery. It could depend on how complicated they get with the cooling system, that could break new ground. So I am confident that as long as Scout does their homework and learns from the work of others, the vehicles should be robust. Software is a whole other thing but that's on Scout to maintain regardless.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

So Rivian has extended warranties, but for some reason they aren’t available in every state.

Never having owned an EV before is an extended warranty something I would even need? I am very thankful for my lifetime warranty on my Wrangler and I plan on keeping my Scout for a long time like my Wrangler so do I need to get one for my Scout or is this not necessary.

Rivian Care Coverage Guide for R1 and R2 Owners – RivianTrackr

Rivian Care is two plans, not one. What the Vehicle Service Contract and Preferred Vehicle Protection cover for R1 and R2 owners, and what they leave out.

riviantrackr.com

Extended warranties are for extended warranty companies to make money off of fear.

Nearly 30 years ago, we started putting the money it would have cost to buy any extended warranty (car, TV, junk from Amazon, GAP, etc) into an investment account. That investment account bought the Mustang and the Lightning.