R2 Launch Watch

[J Alynn]

I dont remember a life without a car payment lol! I like getting a new vehicle every couple of years. I have a sickness I know

If my wife wasn’t our financial planner and vault keeper I’d be in same boat. First car I’ve paid off in YEARS. Seem to always trade

 

[J Alynn]

Respectfully, I disagree. SM is building the big beautiful paint shop. Put it to good use. I want to see Scouts rolling off the line in all the colors of the rainbow. Plus I’m not taking my brand new Traveler and trusting that someone is going to wrap her properly and not ruin the paint. I’ve always been told that paint needs to cure for a period of time before you wrap. I want my Traveler to come off the line in PBY.

Look how great it is when you get all the Scouts together and they are all different colors. This was at Nats last year.

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I’ll take paint any day

 

[maynard]

Respectfully, I disagree. SM is building the big beautiful paint shop. Put it to good use. I want to see Scouts rolling off the line in all the colors of the rainbow. Plus I’m not taking my brand new Traveler and trusting that someone is going to wrap her properly and not ruin the paint. I’ve always been told that paint needs to cure for a period of time before you wrap. I want my Traveler to come off the line in PBY.

Look how great it is when you get all the Scouts together and they are all different colors. This was at Nats last year. View attachment 14220

My desired color scheme!
Love it!
(but I will go Silo green if they don't offer this...)

 

[RodorW]

I think Silo Green is one of the best colors I've ever "hated." When I first saw it, I thought it was leaning too much towards brown, and really thought it was ugly. Though my truck when I was 16 was a Silverado in Pewter, and for as much as I like blues and other vibrant colors, until we get more official color options closer to launch, I'm sold on Silo and have really come around on it after seeing the difference light makes with that color

 

[SaraLiz]

I ended up putting in a reservation yesterday after reviewing all the info. I test drove an R1S last fall and liked a lot about it, just wasn't looking to spend $100k on a vehicle when I was anticipating a Scout coming.

With the shifting timelines and my Ioniq lease ending in Dec '27, the R2 definitely became more interesting. I also like that it is a bit smaller vehicle. However, I'm worried about it being too small. Next vehicle needs to be able to accommodate a large dog crate behind the rear seats. Our current Rav4 does not. And the R2 is technically less cargo volume behind the rear. But it being boxy may still make it functional, as the slope of the Rav is really what kills the kennel fit. Will have to see when demo vehicles start being available.

The thing that I still don't like about Rivian is the lack of buttons. I'm intrigued by their new haptic steering wheel scroll approach though.

 

[rehajm]

The thing that I still don't like about Rivian is the lack of buttons. I'm intrigued by their new haptic steering wheel scroll approach though

The haptic scroll wheels are very cool- good feedback and zero learning curve…

 

[cyure]

It’s things like this that make me wonder when the Scout the way I want to build it will be available. As much as I’m dying to go first I would rather wait and get my Scout exactly how I want it.

https://riviantrackr.com/news/r2s-coastal-cloud-signature-interior-wont-be-available-at-launch/

 

[J Alynn]

I think Silo Green is one of the best colors I've ever "hated." When I first saw it, I thought it was leaning too much towards brown, and really thought it was ugly. Though my truck when I was 16 was a Silverado in Pewter, and for as much as I like blues and other vibrant colors, until we get more official color options closer to launch, I'm sold on Silo and have really come around on it after seeing the difference light makes with that color

Agree. It’s a chameleon green and different enough that I like it

 

[R1TVT]

This is cool Austin:

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[J Alynn]

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BMW does this on there offroad example on the X5 on just 2 opposite corners and then they hang on door to rock you. Creeped me out but made me a believer very quickly. Very cool angle for pic

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

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Sooo…. We are advertising the lack of articulation?

 

[Logan]

Sooo…. We are advertising the lack of articulation?

Literally my first thought. Aint much droop, or stuff going on with those vehicles. And usually thats a huge indicator of offroad performance.

Those tests are interesting... but mostly they just look fancy. Anything with locker( one, or two) and angles enough to not cause ground contact issues, will do pretty well. Especially on "flat" ground there (the ground isn't flat, but the gradient its driving on is flat. It would be much more difficult if that stretch was the same, and all "uphill").

A vehicle with enough articulation won't even have a tire come off the ground in the same situation. This sounds like hyperbole, but, I had a buddy in high school who had an old K5 blazer with extensive mods (drop shackles, dual transfer cases, negative offset wheels, police cruiser fuel injected V8, full cage, etc, etc, etc). He could drive over a 6ft tall RTI ramp, without any other tires leaving the ground.

An RTI ramp gives you an RTI score(Ramp Travel Index). Basically, you drive up an angled ramp with one wheel, and divide the distance traveled up the ramp, by the wheelbase of the vehicle, and you get a score. By buddy literally drove over the end of their ramp without the other tires leaving the ground.

Think something like this.

And here is one showing a Scout II

I guess they're useful for showcasing rigidity of the unibody? The R2 having lockers, and decent angles still does mean something. But its clearly not designed to be an amazing offroader. And thats not a disparaging comment. Its still more capable than most compact SUV's. Its just clear this also isn't a Wrangler Rubicon competitor, which is fine, it doesn't need to be.

 

[JohnBills]

I made an R2 reservation the minute it became available just in case it became something I wanted. I love the size (R1 is too big for my needs and preferences) and I’m very curious about the haptic scroll wheels. Likely won’t purchase it though and stick with my Traveler reservation.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

We should be clear that there are big differences between vehicles that are good for highway, off-highway, off-roading, and rock crawling. You don't want excessive articulation when driving on 99.99% of the roads 99.9% of the people in this country drive on. You don't need excessive articulation to off-road. You probably want high articulation to rock crawl. But a good rock crawling machine is, in general, a terrible highway or city driving machine.

Rivian isn't building a rock crawler. Neither is Scout. I wouldn't even consider their vehicles if they were highly articulated. An electric sway bar disconnect is much more than most people will ever even have use for, much less need.

If you have a use for high articulation, great, but it isn't coming from the factory. You're either diy or paying a specialty shop to do it for you.

 

[R1TVT]

We should be clear that there are big differences between vehicles that are good for highway, off-highway, off-roading, and rock crawling. You don't want excessive articulation when driving on 99.99% of the roads 99.9% of the people in this country drive on. You don't need excessive articulation to off-road. You probably want high articulation to rock crawl. But a good rock crawling machine is, in general, a terrible highway or city driving machine.

Rivian isn't building a rock crawler. Neither is Scout. I wouldn't even consider their vehicles if they were highly articulated. An electric sway bar disconnect is much more than most people will ever even have use for, much less need.

If you have a use for high articulation, great, but it isn't coming from the factory. You're either diy or paying a specialty shop to do it for you.

Took the words out of my mouth.

Sooo…. We are advertising the lack of articulation?

Did you watch the video? I was actually looking at traction control & wheel spin - it stops wheel spin and sends torque to the other wheel in off-road mode. Pretty impressive out of the box stuff for this little truck IMHO. But, I wasn't expecting frankentruck articulation

 

[J Alynn]

Literally my first thought. Aint much droop, or stuff going on with those vehicles. And usually thats a huge indicator of offroad performance.

Those tests are interesting... but mostly they just look fancy. Anything with locker( one, or two) and angles enough to not cause ground contact issues, will do pretty well. Especially on "flat" ground there (the ground isn't flat, but the gradient its driving on is flat. It would be much more difficult if that stretch was the same, and all "uphill").

A vehicle with enough articulation won't even have a tire come off the ground in the same situation. This sounds like hyperbole, but, I had a buddy in high school who had an old K5 blazer with extensive mods (drop shackles, dual transfer cases, negative offset wheels, police cruiser fuel injected V8, full cage, etc, etc, etc). He could drive over a 6ft tall RTI ramp, without any other tires leaving the ground.

An RTI ramp gives you an RTI score(Ramp Travel Index). Basically, you drive up an angled ramp with one wheel, and divide the distance traveled up the ramp, by the wheelbase of the vehicle, and you get a score. By buddy literally drove over the end of their ramp without the other tires leaving the ground.

Think something like this.

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And here is one showing a Scout II

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I guess they're useful for showcasing rigidity of the unibody? The R2 having lockers, and decent angles still does mean something. But its clearly not designed to be an amazing offroader. And thats not a disparaging comment. Its still more capable than most compact SUV's. Its just clear this also isn't a Wrangler Rubicon competitor, which is fine, it doesn't need to be.

Because very few people will take an R2 on that kind of off-roading. That said-that’s some crazy articulation shown above

 

[J Alynn]

We should be clear that there are big differences between vehicles that are good for highway, off-highway, off-roading, and rock crawling. You don't want excessive articulation when driving on 99.99% of the roads 99.9% of the people in this country drive on. You don't need excessive articulation to off-road. You probably want high articulation to rock crawl. But a good rock crawling machine is, in general, a terrible highway or city driving machine.

Rivian isn't building a rock crawler. Neither is Scout. I wouldn't even consider their vehicles if they were highly articulated. An electric sway bar disconnect is much more than most people will ever even have use for, much less need.

If you have a use for high articulation, great, but it isn't coming from the factory. You're either diy or paying a specialty shop to do it for you.

I concur but some time ago argued the scouts emergent meant to be rock crawlers and got some grief. I think vast majority of buyers will never do it but I’m sure some will so all the power to them. If you’ve got $80K to spend prepping a Scout to roll it (like many a Bronco has done over the past 5 years) then you do you and go have fun

 

[J Alynn]

Took the words out of my mouth.



Did you watch the video? I was actually looking at traction control & wheel spin - it stops wheel spin and sends torque to the other wheel in off-road mode. Pretty impressive out of the box stuff for this little truck IMHO. But, I wasn't expecting frankentruck articulation

The other issue with social media is someone always wants the opposite of OR a beefier version of vehicles for the masses. This stuff should be done with 8-10 year old depreciated jeeps or Toyotas, etc…

 

[TigerEyeJazz]

I caved and reserved one again. Still keeping the Scout. I want the Scout so much more lol I’m just dying to see it in person.

 

[cyure]

I caved and reserved one again. Still keeping the Scout. I want the Scout so much more lol I’m just dying to see it in person.

Oh it’s totally worth it even if you have to drive a bit of a distance.