Is there anything SM could offer to get you to switch from EREV to BEV?

[Scoutsie]

Not even the barbecue? I am not a fan of either lamb or sausage and I have to admit that they do both pretty darn well. In my opinion, you go to Eastie for the copious and delicious foods of the Americas these days, anyhow. There are some pretty great Colombian places, not to mention the great Taqueria Jalisco. I haven’t gone there in a minute, but man do they make a good taco.



Can we at least agree that people who say you can’t leave town without going to Regina for a slice are horribly misguided?

Haha I haven’t had Santarpio's pizza in a while, so I’ll try the BBQ next time I’m over there. And yeah, Regina’s is kind of a tourist trap, not bad, just way better slices around. Eastie’s always had gems anyway… back in the day it was Morelli's and Jeveli’s, grabbing a slice and hanging in the smoking section. Now it’s more Central/South American spots and taquerias. Same neighborhood, just more good food.

Yeah, I don’t get this idea that Regina’s makes some kind of transcendental pizza. It’s not bad, but I don’t really remember it. Maybe it’s been a while since I’ve had it (I don’t think I’ve had it since I was in high school), but the last time I can remember having a slice of pizza and being like “holy shit, I am changed” was trying the pizza at Area Four in Cambridge. It’s kind of like New Haven pizza. That’s also some pizza that I definitely remember (maybe also because a friend drove us to New Haven for it and because it had fresh clams and because a few hours later I was throwing up those clams because I picked up the norovirus somewhere ).

I’d never been to Jeveli’s until before COVID when a buddy who moved to Ohio was in town and wanted to hit up all of the places she missed from her youth in Revere. I had no basis for comparison to what it once was, but she said it went downhill and I couldn’t disagree: it kind of tasted like everything came frozen wholesale or something. I was bummed: it was a cool old-school place and I was hoping the food would be like a Rino’s Place kind of situation where everything is made in the back. Maybe it was? Maybe it was an off night or maybe I chose poorly.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

I’m really not trying to come off as an EV zealot. I’m genuinely interested in your answers. This is a forum after all. The point being we can all discuss viewpoints and opinions. It sounds like you are a perfect Harvester candidate. I think it’s great because if EV was the only option I suppose you may not even be considering Scout. With that said, you’re going to love the EV part

No no no, I’m sorry for any misunderstanding and I am definitely interested in your perspective as well. I enjoy hearing everyone’s experiences and viewpoints. I wasn’t accusing anyone and I certainly didn’t intend to direct anything negative at you. It’s tough because intent and tone just don’t come through in text very well. I could have worded my response better and in a more kind manner. I apologize.

I do get a touch frustrated at times when EVs are presented as perfect for everyone though. I’d love if it were a perfect fit for my use case because I’d probably have a more simple vehicle likely with less maintenance, etc. The reality though is that I would have to alter my life to accommodate a full EV and I’m not currently interested in doing that. As an example there is a trail I have my eye on for my next adventure and everyone expresses that you have to be very careful in order to not run out of fuel along the way. Basically you have to fill up at the closest podunk town (your vehicle and your Jerry can(s)) and manage your fuel while on the trail in order to make it back to that station as it is an in-and-out trail. Anyway, I’m sharing too much and that’s not my style but I wanted to give an example. Once infrastructure improves in these remote areas and we have improvements in range from the automakers things will be different.

And no, I’m not afraid of EVs. I have long term experiences with 3 EVs as well as a PHEV. I’m just not interested in altering my lifestyle in order to accommodate my vehicle. I think it should be the opposite and I’ll choose a vehicle based on whether or not it can accommodate me.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

What do you tow

Typically limited to flat beds, smaller travel trailers, and flat towing these days. Haven’t towed over 11k lbs for quite a while now.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

This is a forum for everyone to discuss their experiences and opinions, and while it sounds like you’re a good fit with EREV I feel the quoted line here is a bit harsh. I have seen what we say, and realize it can seem like we’re saying BEV is for everyone, but the reality is there are many people coming to scout from ICE that have no EV experience and will jump to EREV with no hesitation and not need to, those of us with EV experience or continued EV ownership are trying to help those without understand that BEV isn’t as scary as the internet makes it seem. And there can be unfortunate side effects of that, where it seems like we’re saying it fit everyone, but on the other hand what happens if BEV under performs because the market is afraid? Ford certainly didn’t help matters any. So I do understand how it can feel that way, from your point of view, but your not the type of person were trying to help get off the fence, you know what you need and there’s little to no question if the EREV is a better fit for you situation, but for others that won’t be towing frequently or never even looked into EV ownership they may blindly chose EREV because they fear the possibility of range anxiety when in reality they’ll never use more than 30 miles a day

Agreed and that makes sense. I apologize for my harshness. I did not intend any harm or offense.

 

[maynard]

No no no, I’m sorry for any misunderstanding and I am definitely interested in your perspective as well. I enjoy hearing everyone’s experiences and viewpoints. I wasn’t accusing anyone and I certainly didn’t intend to direct anything negative at you. It’s tough because intent and tone just don’t come through in text very well. I could have worded my response better and in a more kind manner. I apologize.

I do get a touch frustrated at times when EVs are presented as perfect for everyone though. I’d love if it were a perfect fit for my use case because I’d probably have a more simple vehicle likely with less maintenance, etc. The reality though is that I would have to alter my life to accommodate a full EV and I’m not currently interested in doing that. As an example there is a trail I have my eye on for my next adventure and everyone expresses that you have to be very careful in order to not run out of fuel along the way. Basically you have to fill up at the closest podunk town (your vehicle and your Jerry can(s)) and manage your fuel while on the trail in order to make it back to that station as it is an in-and-out trail. Anyway, I’m sharing too much and that’s not my style but I wanted to give an example. Once infrastructure improves in these remote areas and we have improvements in range from the automakers things will be different.

And no, I’m not afraid of EVs. I have long term experiences with 3 EVs as well as a PHEV. I’m just not interested in altering my lifestyle in order to accommodate my vehicle. I think it should be the opposite and I’ll choose a vehicle based on whether or not it can accommodate me.

I’m in this same boat!

 

[maynard]

I’m in this same boat!

This won't make me very popular - but this is how sure I am:

 

[cyure]

This won't make me very popular - but this is how sure I am:

Oh yay good for you! I just hope everyone gets what they want!!

 

[J Alynn]

No no no, I’m sorry for any misunderstanding and I am definitely interested in your perspective as well. I enjoy hearing everyone’s experiences and viewpoints. I wasn’t accusing anyone and I certainly didn’t intend to direct anything negative at you. It’s tough because intent and tone just don’t come through in text very well. I could have worded my response better and in a more kind manner. I apologize.

I do get a touch frustrated at times when EVs are presented as perfect for everyone though. I’d love if it were a perfect fit for my use case because I’d probably have a more simple vehicle likely with less maintenance, etc. The reality though is that I would have to alter my life to accommodate a full EV and I’m not currently interested in doing that. As an example there is a trail I have my eye on for my next adventure and everyone expresses that you have to be very careful in order to not run out of fuel along the way. Basically you have to fill up at the closest podunk town (your vehicle and your Jerry can(s)) and manage your fuel while on the trail in order to make it back to that station as it is an in-and-out trail. Anyway, I’m sharing too much and that’s not my style but I wanted to give an example. Once infrastructure improves in these remote areas and we have improvements in range from the automakers things will be different.

And no, I’m not afraid of EVs. I have long term experiences with 3 EVs as well as a PHEV. I’m just not interested in altering my lifestyle in order to accommodate my vehicle. I think it should be the opposite and I’ll choose a vehicle based on whether or not it can accommodate me.

I like this perspective and that wasn’t an over share-that was solid justification why you need EREV and we need to hear stories from both sides. I’m pro-learning to try an BEV next because I’m south central Pa and can travel 8-10 hours any direction with no concerns. My SIL and husband are in Circle Montana and Walmart is 3 hours away so I know it would never work for them. Legit use/need cases are exactly legit. It’s the efforts from folks here to dispelled the EV myths to those who say it won’t-when 10 educated people have the same use case and know it WILL. But your story is great and has been great. I generally don’t even challenge you as I know your situation and you’ve been open and honest about it

 

[LastDayScout]

No no no, I’m sorry for any misunderstanding and I am definitely interested in your perspective as well. I enjoy hearing everyone’s experiences and viewpoints. I wasn’t accusing anyone and I certainly didn’t intend to direct anything negative at you. It’s tough because intent and tone just don’t come through in text very well. I could have worded my response better and in a more kind manner. I apologize.

I do get a touch frustrated at times when EVs are presented as perfect for everyone though. I’d love if it were a perfect fit for my use case because I’d probably have a more simple vehicle likely with less maintenance, etc. The reality though is that I would have to alter my life to accommodate a full EV and I’m not currently interested in doing that. As an example there is a trail I have my eye on for my next adventure and everyone expresses that you have to be very careful in order to not run out of fuel along the way. Basically you have to fill up at the closest podunk town (your vehicle and your Jerry can(s)) and manage your fuel while on the trail in order to make it back to that station as it is an in-and-out trail. Anyway, I’m sharing too much and that’s not my style but I wanted to give an example. Once infrastructure improves in these remote areas and we have improvements in range from the automakers things will be different.

And no, I’m not afraid of EVs. I have long term experiences with 3 EVs as well as a PHEV. I’m just not interested in altering my lifestyle in order to accommodate my vehicle. I think it should be the opposite and I’ll choose a vehicle based on whether or not it can accommodate me.

No problem my friend. You’re right, text doesn’t always convey true meaning. Those are great insights about your situation. You’re a perfect candidate for Harvester. It’s really cool that you can essentially do the stuff you want in an EV but with a built in generator. I bet you won’t have to carry as many Jerry cans with you which would certainly be a plus.

 

[LastDayScout]

This won't make me very popular - but this is how sure I am:

We’re all Scouts.

 

[J Alynn]

This won't make me very popular - but this is how sure I am:

That’s commitment

 

[Scout_Lookout]

No no no, I’m sorry for any misunderstanding and I am definitely interested in your perspective as well. I enjoy hearing everyone’s experiences and viewpoints. I wasn’t accusing anyone and I certainly didn’t intend to direct anything negative at you. It’s tough because intent and tone just don’t come through in text very well. I could have worded my response better and in a more kind manner. I apologize.

I do get a touch frustrated at times when EVs are presented as perfect for everyone though. I’d love if it were a perfect fit for my use case because I’d probably have a more simple vehicle likely with less maintenance, etc. The reality though is that I would have to alter my life to accommodate a full EV and I’m not currently interested in doing that. As an example there is a trail I have my eye on for my next adventure and everyone expresses that you have to be very careful in order to not run out of fuel along the way. Basically you have to fill up at the closest podunk town (your vehicle and your Jerry can(s)) and manage your fuel while on the trail in order to make it back to that station as it is an in-and-out trail. Anyway, I’m sharing too much and that’s not my style but I wanted to give an example. Once infrastructure improves in these remote areas and we have improvements in range from the automakers things will be different.

And no, I’m not afraid of EVs. I have long term experiences with 3 EVs as well as a PHEV. I’m just not interested in altering my lifestyle in order to accommodate my vehicle. I think it should be the opposite and I’ll choose a vehicle based on whether or not it can accommodate me.

I like this perspective and that wasn’t an over share-that was solid justification why you need EREV and we need to hear stories from both sides. I’m pro-learning to try an BEV next because I’m south central Pa and can travel 8-10 hours any direction with no concerns. My SIL and husband are in Circle Montana and Walmart is 3 hours away so I know it would never work for them. Legit use/need cases are exactly legit. It’s the efforts from folks here to dispelled the EV myths to those who say it won’t-when 10 educated people have the same use case and know it WILL. But your story is

This was a good read. In fact, it has me thinking of changing things up for a bit. Having been a Rivian R1T Standard Range owner for the past, year (and a Tesla Model 3 for 3 years prior) I've realized that my situation is perfect for EV ownership. I have a home charger that handles 99% of my needs. I don't tow, I go off-roading frequently, but like most owners nowadays most of the time is spent on the black top, at the ball fields or in the Costco parking lot lol!

But seriously these points are completely valid. I feel very fortunate that I have the perfect situation that allows me to own an EV and be able to experience all the benefits that come with it. However, after reading these post its clear that BEV's although they are fantastic but they are not a solution for everyone. I think for SM has come up with the perfect "have your cake and eat it too" situation for their customer base specifically, and to be honest its quite awesome that so many more people will get to have the same experience just with a little extra benefit and peace of mind.

Even though I absolutely love my Rivian I love trying new tech/vehicles even more. Interestingly, I haven't heard much of the brand I am thinking about switching to next on this forum and I think its simply not in the same buyer base. However, I think I'm going to give Slate a try for a bit while I wait on my Scout. The reason being is my current situation is ideal for the little struck, and if I miss my guess a lot of us on here once had a reg cab truck at some point. But I think Slate will be so cool because of the tinker factor, and multiple conversions its capable of, and ngl the price is really intriguing.

 

[R1TVT]

However, I think I'm going to give Slate a try for a bit while I wait on my Scout.

Whoa. I assume you keep your R1T if you make that move?

Slate is just in a whole different category (maybe not even the "truck" category) and you said you took your R1T off-road frequently above.

 

[Scout_Lookout]

Whoa. I assume you keep your R1T if you make that move?

Slate is just in a whole different category (maybe not even the "truck" category) and you said you took your R1T off-road frequently above.

Actually I keep going back and forth on this. Slate is saying their truck will be pretty capable thought but I know it wont come close to what the Rivian is capable of, so unless I plan to change my off-roading preference I guess I need to keep it until the Scout is ready.

But seriously, the Slate is a really cool idea and I think it will be a fun little truck to own.

Share your Slate

Take a look at my Slate!

www.slate.auto

Share your Slate

Take a look at my Slate!

www.slate.auto

 

[R1TVT]

Actually I keep going back and forth on this. Slate is saying their truck will be pretty capable thought but I know it wont come close to what the Rivian is capable of, so unless I plan to change my off-roading preference I guess I need to keep it until the Scout is ready.

But seriously, the Slate is a really cool idea and I think it will be a fun little truck to own.

I remain highly skeptical - for too many reasons to list here, but also have no dog in that fight.

I also don't believe Slate will be a relevant competitor to Scout (when looking across the market).

 

[maynard]

Oh yay good for you! I just hope everyone gets what they want!!

The funny part is I'm gonna have to put it on my Expedition by the end of the month so I'll have 2 years of weird looks and comments...
I had decided to get it now because there was news that custom plate prices were gonna go way up here...

 

[J Alynn]

Actually I keep going back and forth on this. Slate is saying their truck will be pretty capable thought but I know it wont come close to what the Rivian is capable of, so unless I plan to change my off-roading preference I guess I need to keep it until the Scout is ready.

But seriously, the Slate is a really cool idea and I think it will be a fun little truck to own.

Share your Slate

Take a look at my Slate!

www.slate.auto

Share your Slate

Take a look at my Slate!

www.slate.auto

I see it as a run about but very few legitimate chops to compete with work trucks. Just my opinion and many people want that option

 

[Scout_Lookout]

I see it as a run about but very few legitimate chops to compete with work trucks. Just my opinion and many people want that option

A run about is probably one of the most perfect ways to describe the Slate. I think it will be a cool little cruiser/commuter and there will probably be a lot of trucks with bug company names on them lol