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Hehe.. The only one that ever scared me was in a model X.I would assume the Scouts will have different modes. I wonder if they would put a sport mode.
All I will say is I don’t think we need launch mode. We have never used that in our Supra. I’m too afraid of being launched into something we shouldn’t be.
Let me suggest that you are thinking about this in the wrong way. Scout did not set out to have a 3.5 second truck and spent money and engineering to achieve this.
Instead, they figured out how much torque they needed to tow 10,000lbs. That amount of torque, when applied to an unladen truck and due to a wide powerband and no transmission, results in a 0-60 of 3.5 seconds. Conversely, if you targeted a tow rating of 5,000lbs, you would need less torque and your acceleration would be slower. The rapid acceleration is a byproduct of the useful things that the truck can do. That is one of the many benefits of EVs.
You want a 2-second vehicle? You can buy one. It’s called the Lucid Air Sapphire and it starts at $250,000.
Model X can do it and Cybertruck.. I think most of Tesla's do it.
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I’m not suggesting Scout needs to go wild here, but I wouldn’t hate a 2.5 or even a 2.6 on a "performance" model. 3.5 is solid, no doubt. I’d really like to see uniformity on the harvester.
2.6 seconds is insane, completely unnecessary and ONLY available with the "Cybertruck BEAST" model. For reference, BEAST pricing starts at $115K, and nobody is buying them. It also has a TRI-MOTOR
The dual motor CT goes 0-60 in 4.1 (which is insanely quick for a truck), if you want to call the CT a "truck". Tesla needed gimmicks like safety-glass, a wonky yoke steering wheel and 0-60 times to sell their truck. Scout does not.
The dual motor CT goes 0-60 in 4.1 (which is insanely quick for a truck), if you want to call the CT a "truck". Tesla needed gimmicks like safety-glass, a wonky yoke steering wheel and 0-60 times to sell their truck. Scout does not.
I would assume the Scouts will have different modes. I wonder if they would put a sport mode.
All I will say is I don’t think we need launch mode. We have never used that in our Supra. I’m too afraid of being launched into something we shouldn’t be.
I’ll be the 12 year old in the room for a minute (I’m pretty good at filling that roll). I don’t use it much, but the Launch Control button in my truck can be pretty fun!
Okay I have a question. Is there a practical reason for needing a launch mode on a vehicle? Practical. I’m sure it’s fun to launch yourself top speed, but practical.
And that’s another one of those things I would want to be able to disable if I was letting my kid drive my vehicle. Especially if they were a teen.
When considering the vehicle design a launch control makes more sense on the Supra than it does on a Pickup or large SUV. I can't think of a "practical" reason to have it on these. Is this something that could assist the driver when off-roading?
On an EV it is a completely pointless gimmick. There is no reason that max power cannot be available at all times. You never know when you need a burst of power to avoid a bad situation.
That being said, Tesla Plaid models do have a Launch control function, designed to wring maximum power from the drivetrain in controlled situations (ie drag strip although I'm sure some yahoos use it on the road). It does the following: Heats up the battery pack to optimum temperature. Higher temps lower internal resistance allowing for slightly higher current flow, at the cost of slightly higher battery degradation (heat is the enemy of Li-Ion batteries). It lowers the front air springs to help the front wheels have a bit more traction as the weight transfers to the rear on launch. IIRC it takes about 30 seconds for the car to lower the front and get ready to launch. I have never used it in my MXP.
In an ICE car, launch control serves a very useful purpose in getting maximum performance from the vehicle (but it is not very useful on public roads). It holds the engine at peak torque and then dumps the clutch while managing wheelspin for maximum acceleration. Being able to "store" a bunch of kinetic energy in the spinning motor allows an ICE car to "cheat" when launching. This is evident with a lot of ICE cars wherein their 5-60 time is actually slower than the 0-60 time. The 5-60 time is much more indicative of how much power the vehicle actually has and also how the car will actually perform in the real world - basically, what the car will do if you're just tooling around and then mash the accelerator vs a carefully choreographed max power clutch dump.
It would be trivial for Scout to have different drive modes, including ones that limit power and are locked behind an app or PIN. Tesla has a "valet" mode that cuts power in half (forces the "Chill" drive mode), limits speed to 70mph (adjustable), locks the glove box and frunk, hides your home and work locations in the nav system, and disables bluetooth, Wi-Fi, voice commands, etc. Lots of things are possible with a rolling computer!
No.
There’s no practical reason for a launch mode on any street vehicle.
IF you’re going to put a launch mode on a vehicle, then a Cheetah mode does make a little bit of sense. Cheetah mode raises the rear suspension an inch or two to help compensate for the compression of the rear suspension and lifting of the front suspension during hard acceleration. This enables the vehicle to maintain positive contact with the road surface at the front and reduces loss of steering control.
There’s no reason for it to exist in a street vehicle. It’s fine for toys at the track. But it just encourages dangerous-to-others behavior on the street. I don’t care if someone I don’t know kills themselves doing stupid human tricks—it’s when they endanger others without thinking that it bothers me.
It’s also only possible for the CT on a prepared surface.
Every performance number quoted by any manufacturer is based on ideal circumstances. Perfect weather, perfect (heated) tires, perfect surface, 1-foot rollout, etc, etc, etc. EV makers should fund the highest altitude dragstrip in the world and do all of their testing there. Thin air doesn't hurt acceleration in an EV like it does an ICE and gives it less air resistance.
Couldn’t agree more about having the power when you need it. Ever had someone try to block you from passing even when it was safe—then they sped up just as you did, forcing you into oncoming traffic? It’s happened to me. Of course, not when I’m driving something like a Tesla or the Lightning. My aunt recently told me about a similar situation. Some guy in a truck wouldn’t let them pass on a two-lane road (sped up and match their speed as they tried to pass), and it nearly forced them off the shoulder then slamming the brakes just to get back behind him. Having power when you need it can literally save your life. I like knowing that whatever speed I’m doing, I can get out of a bad situation fast. That responsiveness compared to something like the RAV4 that I drive. Occasionally, you step on the pedal, you're not going anywhere.
As far as chill mode versus performance mode, I do think it’s essential. If someone else drives your vehicle and doesn’t know how it responds, you don’t want them accidentally flooring it or misjudging the acceleration. Chill mode gives you that control. It keeps things chill.
Rivian has done Pikes Peak a few times. Scout needs to do it.
Ran the race. I think they have done it multiple years.
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