What is one feature you hope Scout will include that has not yet been shown?
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Hey now, don't put words in my mouth. 
I have no issues with other forums, despite the claims they make.
The buck stops here though.
I have no issues with other forums, despite the claims they make.
The buck stops here though.
lol. I could have sworn you told me to not mention them lol. Maybe not I don’t know, I’m running on 5 hours of sleep after a fundraising event. That was 12hr.Hey now, don't put words in my mouth.
I have no issues with other forums, despite the claims they make.
The buck stops here though.
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Hello fellow Scout lovers! I'm late to the party! I owned a '74 Scout II in the early 90's that I lost in a break-up and I only cried about leaving that truck! I've already reserved my Traveler!!
I've tried going through a ton of these pages, but so many! I have only a few basic requests as a multi-dog owner in Michigan.
1. Flat fold back seats for the pups, without big gaps for doggie legs to get stuck in.
2. Optional grill guard for the suicidal deer that lurk around every corner.
3. Standard heated seats, please don't make me get an expensive package for this!
4. Please try to keep the price where you've quoted it! I've seen some crazy requests that sound like it could really shoot the price up. Our insane MI insurance rates make it incredibly expensive to purchase a new vehicle, plus I'll need to install a charger for the house.
Thanks to everyone for so many fun discussions! I'll be catching up for the next two years while I wait for my truck!!!!!
I've tried going through a ton of these pages, but so many! I have only a few basic requests as a multi-dog owner in Michigan.
1. Flat fold back seats for the pups, without big gaps for doggie legs to get stuck in.
2. Optional grill guard for the suicidal deer that lurk around every corner.
3. Standard heated seats, please don't make me get an expensive package for this!
4. Please try to keep the price where you've quoted it! I've seen some crazy requests that sound like it could really shoot the price up. Our insane MI insurance rates make it incredibly expensive to purchase a new vehicle, plus I'll need to install a charger for the house.
Thanks to everyone for so many fun discussions! I'll be catching up for the next two years while I wait for my truck!!!!!
Speaking of house charger, a year ago (I think) Springfield got hit with a nasty storm that took out the power to my house for 2 weeks. I lost everything in the fridge, and only by the grace of my neighbor sharing their small generator did I save my freezer food. I believe I saw a YouTube, or read somewhere the Harvester will be able to power your house. I'd be really interested in that as I wouldn't need to invest in a separate generator.
I’m not sure if some of these were mentioned before. One great thing about some current EVs is ability to not allow cabin to overheat. Something I think is critical. Next is approach and exit cameras for off-roading. Next is another vote for OnX integration and an App Store. Next the Phone charger should work with all sized phones. Please actually test with iPhone Max size and the smallest iPhone and similar large and small Samsung devices. Also choose a phone charging tech that does not overheat the phones.
The next feature request is to keep it simple. Please don’t delay the vehicle or jack up the price or bundle critical features in obnoxiously expensive option packages with ultra unobtanium trimmed mood indicator or some other fufu thing just to make everyone happy. Just keep it focused and simple. These are supposed to cost less than Rivians. I’d very much like that to be true when they go on sale, and not just for some token base package that nobody wants. Keep them Scouts. Off road stuff is important. Reasonable on road stuff. It does not need more creature comforts than a fully optioned Lexus SUV.
Last feature is to keep updating the software. One EV vendor adds significant new software features every December to almost every car they ever sold with a slow drip throughout the year. A software defined vehicle should improve for 10 years minimum just to stay fully useable. It should not be obsolete after you drive off the lot like a BMW (EV or otherwise—they seriously suck at updates). I’d imagine this is part of the strength of the new zonal architecture, and that selection of electrical components and gizmos is critical so as to not overly burden continued software support.
On second thought. Go ahead and add those mood indicators to the list-just put them outside so I know who to steer clear of.
The next feature request is to keep it simple. Please don’t delay the vehicle or jack up the price or bundle critical features in obnoxiously expensive option packages with ultra unobtanium trimmed mood indicator or some other fufu thing just to make everyone happy. Just keep it focused and simple. These are supposed to cost less than Rivians. I’d very much like that to be true when they go on sale, and not just for some token base package that nobody wants. Keep them Scouts. Off road stuff is important. Reasonable on road stuff. It does not need more creature comforts than a fully optioned Lexus SUV.
Last feature is to keep updating the software. One EV vendor adds significant new software features every December to almost every car they ever sold with a slow drip throughout the year. A software defined vehicle should improve for 10 years minimum just to stay fully useable. It should not be obsolete after you drive off the lot like a BMW (EV or otherwise—they seriously suck at updates). I’d imagine this is part of the strength of the new zonal architecture, and that selection of electrical components and gizmos is critical so as to not overly burden continued software support.
On second thought. Go ahead and add those mood indicators to the list-just put them outside so I know who to steer clear of.
Avoid the Bundle Price increases. Allow buyers to spec the vehicle with the options they want. I have factory odered three cars over my life and still had to pay for things I didn't want
You will not need the Harvester (gas generator) to do this. Most pure Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV) can provide AC electrical power, either directly or with an adapter. There are a lot of factors and TLA (Three Letter Acronyms) like V2L and V2H you'll need to become familiar with to understand the full range of capabilities. But to grossly simplify - any of the Scouts will almost certainly be able to provide electrical power to your appliances in an emergency.
My Hyundai ioniq 5 has an inexpensive V2L adapter for this. I don't remember where I saw it with the Scouts, but I remember seeing the charge port door open on one of the Scout models, and there were two standard AC outlets right next to the DC charging port. If that is going to be standard on the Scouts, then you won't even need an adapter. You will just need the vehicle and an extension cord.
Yup, that’s a handy feature. One thing I wonder about though, is if there might be some sort of extra cover for the charging port. So for example, if you’ve got stuff plugged into those outlets for an extended period of time and it’s raining or snowing, which means the charge port door is sitting open, I don’t want to worry about stuff getting in to the charge port. For that matter, I suppose the opposite is true too, if I’m charging overnight outside, it’d be nice if those outlets were protected.
Good info here.
In addition to the outlets on the Scout itself which can power light loads directly, the V2H capability will involve additional equipment in the form of a more intelligent automatic transfer switch that will allow the Scout battery to power either your whole house through your main breaker panel, or a subset of circuits in a backup loads panel.
The ATS will also isolate you from the grid so there's no danger of backfeeding power out to the grid and endangering utility line workers who are trying to fix broken lines.
Basically, the functionality will be much like a backup generator, but without the noise and fumes, and the capacity will be orders of magnitude bigger than home backup batteries that already exist such as Powerwalls.
Regarding the idea of powering your home in a power outage (which happens here frequently), how long could a vehicle actually power a few appliances before running out of juice, which would also strand you at home with no way to charge your vehicle? I'm new to the EV world and have a lot to learn!
I have no idea the answer to your question. New to EVs as well and learning more everyday, but I had to say I love the picture of your dog!
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It would depend on exactly how much you use in the house and state of charge of the vehicle when starting, but I'd say a couple of days if you're powering the whole house. If it's just a few appliances like the fridge and a few lights etc. then it might be a week or more. If there was no power after that point I guess you could quickly go to the nearest fast charger to top the car back up and then reconnect again once back home.
The answer is an unsatisfying, it depends on several factors...
1. Battery state of charge when power goes out.
2. Temperature
3. Perhaps most important, what loads are you powering in the house?
If you're looking to back up a few outlets, some lighting circuits (especially if LED lights) a router for internet, fridge, well pump, a non-electric based heating system like a boiler or furnace that is just using electricity as an ignition source you would likely be measuring your backup capability time in days, or weeks if you're really frugal about usage.
If you have an all electric based heating system, a hot tub, electric pool heater, big central A/C unit, etc and you use a lot or all of those loads during an outage, your backup time will be much shorter, maybe a day or two. But, you can moderate your usage of those kinds of loads and significantly extend your backup time.
So, its really a combination of what you're powering and for how long that will define the "it depends" part.
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