Oh Scout needs a program like that! Trail Master? Scout Guide? Trailblazer? Scout Pathfinder? Scout Explorer? Navigator? Scout Sherpa?
What is More Important? - EV Charge Time or EV Range
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I would skip the Trail Master, Trailblazer, Pathfinder, Explorer & Navigator. Those are all ready overused names. It needs to be something truly Scout.
NJ turnpike has zero to none of EV chargers same for the Parkway.
California now has nearly 50% more EV chargers than gas nozzles
California now has 178,549 public and shared private EV chargers – that's 48% more chargers than gas nozzles.electrek.co
“Go First, Go Farther” ProgramI would skip the Trail Master, Trailblazer, Pathfinder, Explorer & Navigator. Those are all ready overused names. It needs to be something truly Scout.
Neither is important to me at this point.
There's literally nothing on the market without enough range, and 99% of the time I'm going to charge it at home in my driveway.
The 1% of the time I don't, I do not care about a 30 minute stop.
There's literally nothing on the market without enough range, and 99% of the time I'm going to charge it at home in my driveway.
The 1% of the time I don't, I do not care about a 30 minute stop.
That's strange. I charged at a DCFC on the NJ Turnpike last summer on my way to DE and MD. Literally in one of the rest stops ON the Turnpike, not to mention the Tesla Superchargers on the Turnpike.
APPLGREEN DCFC
- Location: Walt Whitman Travel Plaza, NJ Turnpike Southbound, Mile Marker 30 (between Interchanges 3 and 4), Cherry Hill, NJ 08034.
- Charger Type: Applegreen Electric chargers, ultra-rapid with 175kW charging speed.
- Compatibility: Fully compatible with all major EV manufacturers, with CHAdeMO and CCS-2 hoses available.
- Payment Methods: Contactless, Apple Pay, and Google Pay.
- Other Amenities: Restrooms, WiFi, and dining.
- Open Hours: 24/7.
- Price: $0.59 / kWh
Im sure there out there, just not in good spots. I did a trip with my friend and his Tesla. And the infrastructure just isn't there like it is for gas. Another good reason for my choice of Harvester, beside fishing, and vacations and work.
Okay thinking about it nothing that conjures up another brand, car or otherwise. And yes a list of ideas. You never know what will stick.
Unfortunately, the answer is "yes."
Competing against incumbency means either (1) replicating all of the incumbent's features (while adding something novel) or (2) offering more limited features at a radically lower price point. EVs cannot as yet do #2, so they have to do #1. Until an EV can charge as fast as gas - everywhere you can with gas - and go as far and as fast as gas, it will be inferior to some substantial segment of the customer base. When an EV can tow a 20,000 pound trailer a few hundred miles on a single charge (then recharge in five minutes) and corner as well as a 70's Porsche 911, then the naysayers will have nothing left to complain about.
Really, what will happen is cars will become so expensive many people gain some form of auto-based transportation from autonomous solutions, all of which will be electric. The fleet model will solve for cost and anxiety before the tech does.
Competing against incumbency means either (1) replicating all of the incumbent's features (while adding something novel) or (2) offering more limited features at a radically lower price point. EVs cannot as yet do #2, so they have to do #1. Until an EV can charge as fast as gas - everywhere you can with gas - and go as far and as fast as gas, it will be inferior to some substantial segment of the customer base. When an EV can tow a 20,000 pound trailer a few hundred miles on a single charge (then recharge in five minutes) and corner as well as a 70's Porsche 911, then the naysayers will have nothing left to complain about.
Really, what will happen is cars will become so expensive many people gain some form of auto-based transportation from autonomous solutions, all of which will be electric. The fleet model will solve for cost and anxiety before the tech does.
That’s interesting. I expect that includes a lot of level 2 chargers, which are great for everyday use. When it comes to freeway road trips though, there’s still a big difference. What I mean is, if I’m cruising down a highway, I’m pretty confident that within a few exits there will be a gas station. I don’t have to plan where I’m going to stop, I just wait til I need a bathroom, or food, or a break and I can be sure that there’ll be a place I can stop in the next 10-20 minutes. In fact, if that isn’t the case there’s usually a sign warning me “no gas for 30 miles” or something like that. Fast chargers are not yet so ubiquitous that I can depend on there being one at most developed exits. Hopefully that’s changing every day though.California now has nearly 50% more EV chargers than gas nozzles
California now has 178,549 public and shared private EV chargers – that's 48% more chargers than gas nozzles.
Ok, now i’m dying to see a 911 towing a bulldozer
You stated "there were zero to none". Just stating the FACTS.
There are literally dozens of Superchargers and that Applegreen site is smack dab in the MEDIAN between the N and Southbound lanes of the Turnpike in the rest area. Couldn't be in a better spot actually. I didn't even need to charge in NJ as there is a Rivian RAN charger in DE when you cross the border, but was pleasantly surprised and took some juice while taking a rest-stop break.
This is not a Zero Sum game. There is a MASSIVE benefit of not having to go to a gas station (or charge at a DDCFC station). Most EV owners plug in at home, and they are perfectly willing to exchange some charge time at a DCFC (when on a road trip) for all of the added benefits & time savings (including PERFORMANCE) that an EV will deliver. Pulling a 20K pound trailer while taking corners like a Porsche isn't even considered an edge case, and doesn't apply to this discussion, since you are talking about a towing capacity that is only available in HD trucks. Even if you're pulling a 20K pound trailer with a 3rd wheel in a dually, you're not taking corners like a Porsche
The Governor is misleading people when he says "We now have nearly 50% more chargers than gas nozzles in the state" because only 10% of the chargers are fast chargers, the rest are L2's. For an apples to apples comparison you'd have to compare only fast chargers to gas stations however to be fair to the Governor, owning an electric car does mean you're utilizing multiple types of refueling (L2, fast charge, etc.) vs just 1 aka gas stations.California now has nearly 50% more EV chargers than gas nozzles
California now has 178,549 public and shared private EV chargers – that's 48% more chargers than gas nozzles.
If you look at the numbers we only have less than half the amount of chargers to gas stations. I Count that as zero to none. As on what my rule is that for every 2 gas stations, 1 charging location should be installed or vise verse-a.
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