Question about Pedal Feel and Driving Characteristics

[travelinscout]

I have been into Scouts my whole life, and I am super excited about these!

I have 1 reservation for a Terra and one for the Traveler, and I have a question.

I recently drove an EV for the first time, and it was a Tesla Cyberbeast.

The one thing I hated about it was the way the "gas" pedal felt like a golf cart.

When you release the pedal to slow down, it felt like I was applying the brake aggressively, and totally lacked the normal 'coast to a stop' feel of a regular vehicle.

Does anyone know how Scout is addressing this? Will it feel the same?

Thanks!

 

[R1TVT]

Search regen and one-pedal driving. Tons of discussion about how it will / could/ would / should be implemented.

Did you adjust the strength of the regen when you were test driving? If you did not adjust the regen setting to low and it was set at high, then I would imagine that it would "feel" like it was braking, because it was slowing more rapidly. Not dissimilar from engine braking in a downshift. I love 1PD in the R1T, and it is likely different in the CT, but I have never driven a CT and never will. LOL.

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

We will have adjustments for the amount of regen you want. This really should give you the most flexibility.

 

[chucchinchilla]

We will have adjustments for the amount of regen you want. This really should give you the most flexibility.

Will there be more options than standard VW Group D and B modes? I think standard B mode is a good beginner level, but would love something more aggressive, especially while traversing mountain roads or towing. Speaking of towing, using regen mode while towing is amazing btw. In a weird way it kind of cancels out the extra rolling due to more mass.

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

Will there be more options than standard VW Group D and B modes? I think standard B mode is a good beginner level, but would love something more aggressive, especially while traversing mountain roads or towing. Speaking of towing, using regen mode while towing is amazing btw. In a weird way it kind of cancels out the extra rolling due to more mass.

My Q6 has D and B modes, but also has three different levels. Since we are using a heavy portion of Rivian-based software in the Scouts, I would expect that we'd tap into their system for regen. But honestly, it is still early and we probably have the ability to customize for our specific use.

 

[chucchinchilla]

My Q6 has D and B modes, but also has three different levels. Since we are using a heavy portion of Rivian-based software in the Scouts, I would expect that we'd tap into their system for regen. But honestly, it is still early and we probably have the ability to customize for our specific use.

I live in the SF Bay Area and run into people from the automotive industry all the time. Yesterday I met a really nice guy who works at the Rivian-VW JV in Palo Alto, having moved over here from Germany working at one of the VW Group brands. Without spilling beans, yes I walked away from that conversation with the same expectations you laid out, not only for Scout but the other group brands who are working on their respective projects at the Rivian office.

I'm very bullish on the Rivian-VW JV because it's more than just access to great software, it's access into a start-up mentality, access into independent thinking, access to moving quickly, and access to breaking down walls. It's the same reason why Ford set up shop in Long Beach and the same reason why Scout has a level of independence from VW. My hope is the VW Group employees take those learnings and that spirit back with them to Germany when they eventually return.

 

[Logan]

I have been into Scouts my whole life, and I am super excited about these!

I have 1 reservation for a Terra and one for the Traveler, and I have a question.

I recently drove an EV for the first time, and it was a Tesla Cyberbeast.

The one thing I hated about it was the way the "gas" pedal felt like a golf cart.

When you release the pedal to slow down, it felt like I was applying the brake aggressively, and totally lacked the normal 'coast to a stop' feel of a regular vehicle.

Does anyone know how Scout is addressing this? Will it feel the same?

Thanks!

I recently purchased my first EV. And FWIW, I also dislike the pedal feel of one pedal driving.

I did a test a week or two ago where on a few commutes to work, I stuck with either the heavy 1 pedal style regen, or a more "normal combustion vehicle with an automatic transmission" type regen. I tracked efficiency, and also driving experience.

At the end of the day... I still find that I like lighter regen better. Same with my wife. Although we only have 1000 miles of EV ownership under our belt so far.

There are some situations where I find one pedal driving better (low speed traffic where you're having to bounce between throttle pedal/brake pedal with normal creeping behavior). But, so far, in those cases, even better than 1 pedal driving, is adaptive cruise control (great in stop and go traffic).

As long as they offer blended braking that works well (IE, increase regen with brake pedal travel, until you reach max regen, then use friction brakes), and that they have both a "acts like a normal combustion vehicle with an automatic transmission" and a one pedal driving setting that has very good toe-in throttle control, then I think I'll be happy.

 

[cyure]

I recently purchased my first EV. And FWIW, I also dislike the pedal feel of one pedal driving.

I did a test a week or two ago where on a few commutes to work, I stuck with either the heavy 1 pedal style regen, or a more "normal combustion vehicle with an automatic transmission" type regen. I tracked efficiency, and also driving experience.

At the end of the day... I still find that I like lighter regen better. Same with my wife. Although we only have 1000 miles of EV ownership under our belt so far.

There are some situations where I find one pedal driving better (low speed traffic where you're having to bounce between throttle pedal/brake pedal with normal creeping behavior). But, so far, in those cases, even better than 1 pedal driving, is adaptive cruise control (great in stop and go traffic).

As long as they offer blended braking that works well (IE, increase regen with brake pedal travel, until you reach max regen, then use friction brakes), and that they have both a "acts like a normal combustion vehicle with an automatic transmission" and a one pedal driving setting that has very good toe-in throttle control, then I think I'll be happy.

Thanks for keeping us updated on your experiences.