Well I’m just excited to see it in the app! All those naysayers on Instagram and Facebook can s**k it!
Please no erev!
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Several things about the average speed derived from my photo. In this example, I had a full-stop on the highway for about 30 minutes due to road construction; I left the AC on for that stop—notice that it’s 93 F at night. I live about 7 miles from the freeway on a 20 mph section of road. The DCFC charger I’m stopped at is about a mile off the freeway, with several stops and a maximum speed of 25 mph.
If you do the math, that’s about 74 mph average for 240 miles of highway. I stay the speed of traffic.
The Terra looks good in the Satin White. A light grey or ghost Rallye stripe would really set it off.
Just like the added AI and other things-this is the way to go. Add it as an option and if you want it you pay. Simple enough
A lot will depend on generator size. If the generator can not keep up with current draw while towing, towing will drain the battery and towing range will be dependent on battery size rather than gas tank size.
Scout and Dodge are taking different approaches. Scout is looking at what they see as the vast majority of the use of their target base - and that will be efficiency. Dodge is putting in a MUCH larger generator so it can deal with towing better.
Scout and Dodge are taking different approaches. Scout is looking at what they see as the vast majority of the use of their target base - and that will be efficiency. Dodge is putting in a MUCH larger generator so it can deal with towing better.
I've heard Dodge EREV is also using a larger battery pack and that capacity is unlocked and used ONLY during towing. The pure EV range and full battery capacity is reduced in normal driving.
Sounds like a very Dodge decision.
They shoot themselves in the foot every chance they get.
I wonder if they’re doing it to keep the non-towing range and the towing range similar so they don’t have people who don’t really think about it and expect to get the same range when they’re towing getting surprised and mad.
I wonder if people have seriously gotten so numb in the brain to think that the energy requirements would be equivalent for towing. Sad state of affairs if this is the case - sign of the times, I guess, but WOW... I would prefer to have more faith in humanity - maybe its just a Dodge thing.
Increasing the buffer size for towing makes sense to me (what scout is doing).
Increasing the size of the battery for towing makes sense to me (sort of, its a design choice to carry more battery around for towing, which is questionable when you already have a v6 gas engine for power, and a 27 gallon fuel tank)
REDUCING the battery size that is useable, when you are NOT towing, is crazy.
Increasing the size of the battery for towing makes sense to me (sort of, its a design choice to carry more battery around for towing, which is questionable when you already have a v6 gas engine for power, and a 27 gallon fuel tank)
REDUCING the battery size that is useable, when you are NOT towing, is crazy.
I haven't heard that, but I have read the Ram will draw from both the batteries and generator when maximum performance is desired.
2026 Ram Ramcharger Tech Deep Dive: Is This EREV the Perfect Truck?
Here’s more of what makes Ram’s electric-when-you-want (around town), gas-powered-when-you-don’t (towing/hauling/traveling) “light-duty” pickup truck tick.
I might have stated it incorrectly. The Ram EREV has a 92 kWh battery pack; but, 70 kWh is usable for for 145 mile EV unladen range. Once you start to tow, the Ram can pull on the other 22 kWh in reserve as needed along with the V-6 with the 27 gallon gas tank. I think the reason behind the system is to try an maintain the advertised EPA and range ratings that seems to kick EV in the butt when towing?I haven't heard that, but I have read the Ram will draw from both the batteries and generator when maximum performance is desired.
2026 Ram Ramcharger Tech Deep Dive: Is This EREV the Perfect Truck?
Here’s more of what makes Ram’s electric-when-you-want (around town), gas-powered-when-you-don’t (towing/hauling/traveling) “light-duty” pickup truck tick.www.motortrend.com
I recall, a very long time ago, that a 6-cylinder truck could tow. I don't fully understand reserving some of the battery for towing, but IIRC Tesla reserved some of their battery for battery degradation (so from the owners perspective, the range would not drop with age for longer period of time). I don't know how big the load on the battery will be during hard acceleration or towing uphill - so perhaps they need that overhead to be safe.
Last thing they want is a full tank of gas, and not being able to get the truck moving. So leaving some battery reserves left after EV mode is depleted does have some merit. I don't see it as a towing reserve as much as a EREV reserve though.
Last thing they want is a full tank of gas, and not being able to get the truck moving. So leaving some battery reserves left after EV mode is depleted does have some merit. I don't see it as a towing reserve as much as a EREV reserve though.
A gas stop is less than 5 minutes. A charge is how long?
Also- is that map routed the same trip I took, or is the light grey a detour to charge?
I think it’s important to consider the fact that a charge can vary from 5 minutes to 45+ minutes depending on how much charge you need for the next leg and how many stops you want to make through the entire journey.
We have a vacation coming up in September and using Chevrolet‘s route planner. It will add a total of two hours to our travel time because the Bolt charges at a maximum of 50 kW but that is with four stops but adjusting it for how we would prefer to travel it only adds about an hour and a half with two stops.
And I fully admit I’m a stubborn hold out that doesn’t want to have to wait a longer time to charge than get fuel. We regularly take trips over 500 miles in a day, and adding the charge time just isn’t worth it to me. Hence why the Harvester continues to be a good option for the stubborn holdouts like me. We get our gas and go on longer trips, and EV lifestyle when we want it.
That’s fair, but in my personal opinion less than 200 miles is terrible for the EV part of the EREV, the hornet gets 30ish in All electric and that great for my partner that can get them to work and back twice without needing the engine. But factor in weather changes and driving habits that can easily be better or worse. So on the lager scale of Scout as someone than does 120-150 miles on a daily average I can’t see it being any more efficient than a small hybrid, costing more to fill the battery on shore power, and regular gas stops would be expected if it’s running the generator near daily. Personally I’d be all for the EREV if it could do 250-300 on electric and the rest on generator, but that’s probably unrealistic, I can admit I would prefer better range on BEV, but given my daily vs lifestyle BEV fits better even with lesser range, and should still be plenty capable for trailing with friends. So long as Scout aims to meet all reservations before mass producing I think the options are great and we’re all in for great value for what we want.
You may have seen it, but recently I did an 850 mile road trip in my EV, that I usually do in my PHEV vehicle.
As someone who has made the transition, and understands long road trips like you’re talking about, I have one suggestion.
Next time you take a road trip, count your stops, and time them. I did that for 2 years on that same road trip, I found I was doing 3-5 stops, with lengths in the 9-30 minute range. Our fastest trip had 3 stops with just under 45 minutes of stoppage time across the 850 miles of driving (single day drive). This included eating in the car as we drive.
We’ve only done the drive once in the EV. But on the way there we had 6 stops. On the way back was 4. So it seemed to add a single stop in each direction. And I’d estimate it added about 45min-1.5hrs to a 12-14hr drive. But this included a change in our behavior too. We didn’t eat in the car (we’d packed food before), we stopped and did fast food.
Anyway, I’m still reserved for a harvester (for now). I’m not trying to convince you one way or another.
I’m just saying, the first step for me towards feeling ok with EV road tripping, was just figuring out that my road trip fuel up stops, weren’t actually 5 min (at least not with 2 kids and my wife). The pee breaks + grabbing a break turn out to add another 5-15min for us on average.
This is exactly what I started doing last summer and this one too. I really paid close attention to how many stops and how long. An EV for me to get from Houston, TX to Sturgis, SD would potentially be the same exact stops for nearly the same exact times.
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