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Hello friends, long time lurker but now that my account got approved, I can post what's been most on my mind since placing my reservation. I searched for existing cold weather/northern climate data and there isn't much, so I figured I would start a thread to compile it for folks in a similar situation to me. In case you haven't already guessed, I am Canadian so I will be using the Celsius scale but I'll convert to Fahrenheit for ease of reading.

In the first post, let's define what cold is. As an Edmontonian, I get a chuckle out of truck review channels talking about cold weather testing and see them driving around 0 °C (32 °F) like it's a big deal. That's grilling weather in January for us here in Alberta. Here's some ranges for context without wind chill factors.

a) 0 °C (32 °F) to -10 °C (14 °F): I consider this to be a non-issue but for many others, this could constitute extreme lows in your area. Many areas across North America should frequently hit these temperatures so I'm confident the vehicles will be engineered to operate well enough here.

b) -10 °C (50 °F) to -20 °C (-4 °F): This is nuisance winter weather, and the bulk of our winter averages through the core winter months. It's where things can sometimes stop working correctly. ICE batteries should probably be put on a trickle charger if not started for extended periods of time. Engines should be warmed up prior to driving. Typically don't have issues starting without a block heater plugged in unless the battery is already weak. If you live in an area where you don't know what a block heater is, consider yourself blessed.

c) -20 °C (-4 °F) to -30 °C (-22 °F): Moderate cold snap daytime highs, common nighttime lows. Not uncommon to get days to weeks of this range. In 2019, we went through 26 days where the daytime high never cracked -20 °C (-4 °F), but that type of weather pattern is rare. Things continue to stop working. Winter rated washer fluid will crystalize on windshields if not pre-heated sufficiently. In my Subaru WRX, I notice my transmission fluid is stiff and my clutch is noticeably harder to depress until warmed up. Many ICE vehicles will not start if stored outside for multiple days without a plugged in block heater.

d) -30 °C (-22 °F) to -40 °C (-40 °F): Severe cold snap. We typically get one or two stretches of this in a year. Depending on how close your commute is, your car might not be warm when you get to work (people tape cardboard over their grills to help this). If your ICE isn't plugged in or have a huge cold crank amp battery, probably not starting. There's ice (not ICE, but water ice) on the INSIDE of windows and doorknobs in our homes. Vehicles break, period. You know not to roll down your window fully because it might freeze that way and not roll up. Depending on how used you are to it, it may hurt to breathe.

e) Colder than -40 °C (-40 °F): Extreme cold snap. Rare, can sometimes get a couple days a year for nighttime lows. I don't expect Scouts to operate well here, because, well, no vehicle operates well here. When it's this cold, we just expect people to not show up for work because stuff stops working. When outside, the condensation from your breath can freeze your eyelashes together. You develop moustache icicles. You wonder why you don't live somewhere nicer. It's probably what it's like to be in a severe heat wave in the southern states, where one simply can't function outside.

I will now create some dummy posts to edit later, each categorised based on some key concepts.
 
Placeholder: Harvester Engine Considerations

Q: Will the harvester engine have an external block heater connection or be sourced from the powertrain battery? If not, does the powertrain battery need to be itself plugged in for the block heater to function?

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Q: What SAE oil will the harvester engine support:

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Placehoider: Mechanical systems and frame integrity

Q: Will there be heat tracing on the windshield fluid lines?

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Q: Will any of the electrical components (pumps, valves, etc.) with a fluid have a minimum temperature rating?

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Q: What is the overall resilience on the frame, body, wiring, coatings, etc. to compounds regularly used to deal with icy roads? Examples are salt compounds and sand/gravel mixtures.

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Q: Any details on the paint hardness and sealants to deal with the sandblasting effect from compounds mentioned in the previous question?

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Hello friends, long time lurker but now that my account got approved, I can post what's been most on my mind since placing my reservation. I searched for existing cold weather/northern climate data and there isn't much, so I figured I would start a thread to compile it for folks in a similar situation to me. In case you haven't already guessed, I am Canadian so I will be using the Celsius scale but I'll convert to Fahrenheit for ease of reading.

In the first post, let's define what cold is. As an Edmontonian, I get a chuckle out of truck review channels talking about cold weather testing and see them driving around 0 °C (32 °F) like it's a big deal. That's grilling weather in January for us here in Alberta. Here's some ranges for context without wind chill factors.

a) 0 °C (32 °F) to -10 °C (14 °F): I consider this to be a non-issue but for many others, this could constitute extreme lows in your area. Many areas across North America should frequently hit these temperatures so I'm confident the vehicles will be engineered to operate well enough here.

b) -10 °C (50 °F) to -20 °C (-4 °F): This is nuisance winter weather, and the bulk of our winter averages through the core winter months. It's where things can sometimes stop working correctly. ICE batteries should probably be put on a trickle charger if not started for extended periods of time. Engines should be warmed up prior to driving. Typically don't have issues starting without a block heater plugged in unless the battery is already weak. If you live in an area where you don't know what a block heater is, consider yourself blessed.

c) -20 °C (-4 °F) to -30 °C (-22 °F): Moderate cold snap daytime highs, common nighttime lows. Not uncommon to get days to weeks of this range. In 2019, we went through 26 days where the daytime high never cracked -20 °C (-4 °F), but that type of weather pattern is rare. Things continue to stop working. Winter rated washer fluid will crystalize on windshields if not pre-heated sufficiently. In my Subaru WRX, I notice my transmission fluid is stiff and my clutch is noticeably harder to depress until warmed up. Many ICE vehicles will not start if stored outside for multiple days without a plugged in block heater.

d) -30 °C (-22 °F) to -40 °C (-40 °F): Severe cold snap. We typically get one or two stretches of this in a year. Depending on how close your commute is, your car might not be warm when you get to work (people tape cardboard over their grills to help this). If your ICE isn't plugged in or have a huge cold crank amp battery, probably not starting. There's ice (not ICE, but water ice) on the INSIDE of windows and doorknobs in our homes. Vehicles break, period. You know not to roll down your window fully because it might freeze that way and not roll up. Depending on how used you are to it, it may hurt to breathe.

e) Colder than -40 °C (-40 °F): Extreme cold snap. Rare, can sometimes get a couple days a year for nighttime lows. I don't expect Scouts to operate well here, because, well, no vehicle operates well here. When it's this cold, we just expect people to not show up for work because stuff stops working. When outside, the condensation from your breath can freeze your eyelashes together. You develop moustache icicles. You wonder why you don't live somewhere nicer. It's probably what it's like to be in a severe heat wave in the southern states, where one simply can't function outside.

I will now create some dummy posts to edit later, each categorised based on some key concepts.
Appreciate your deep dive and willingness to engage us-we aren’t all evil, most of us can say that. I’ve complained this week as we are in the teens but I have family in Montana so I know what cold is-I choose to avoid it. Anxious to hear more from you. And anyone else living in deep freezers
 
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Hello friends, long time lurker but now that my account got approved, I can post what's been most on my mind since placing my reservation. I searched for existing cold weather/northern climate data and there isn't much, so I figured I would start a thread to compile it for folks in a similar situation to me. In case you haven't already guessed, I am Canadian so I will be using the Celsius scale but I'll convert to Fahrenheit for ease of reading.

In the first post, let's define what cold is. As an Edmontonian, I get a chuckle out of truck review channels talking about cold weather testing and see them driving around 0 °C (32 °F) like it's a big deal. That's grilling weather in January for us here in Alberta. Here's some ranges for context without wind chill factors.

a) 0 °C (32 °F) to -10 °C (14 °F): I consider this to be a non-issue but for many others, this could constitute extreme lows in your area. Many areas across North America should frequently hit these temperatures so I'm confident the vehicles will be engineered to operate well enough here.

b) -10 °C (50 °F) to -20 °C (-4 °F): This is nuisance winter weather, and the bulk of our winter averages through the core winter months. It's where things can sometimes stop working correctly. ICE batteries should probably be put on a trickle charger if not started for extended periods of time. Engines should be warmed up prior to driving. Typically don't have issues starting without a block heater plugged in unless the battery is already weak. If you live in an area where you don't know what a block heater is, consider yourself blessed.

c) -20 °C (-4 °F) to -30 °C (-22 °F): Moderate cold snap daytime highs, common nighttime lows. Not uncommon to get days to weeks of this range. In 2019, we went through 26 days where the daytime high never cracked -20 °C (-4 °F), but that type of weather pattern is rare. Things continue to stop working. Winter rated washer fluid will crystalize on windshields if not pre-heated sufficiently. In my Subaru WRX, I notice my transmission fluid is stiff and my clutch is noticeably harder to depress until warmed up. Many ICE vehicles will not start if stored outside for multiple days without a plugged in block heater.

d) -30 °C (-22 °F) to -40 °C (-40 °F): Severe cold snap. We typically get one or two stretches of this in a year. Depending on how close your commute is, your car might not be warm when you get to work (people tape cardboard over their grills to help this). If your ICE isn't plugged in or have a huge cold crank amp battery, probably not starting. There's ice (not ICE, but water ice) on the INSIDE of windows and doorknobs in our homes. Vehicles break, period. You know not to roll down your window fully because it might freeze that way and not roll up. Depending on how used you are to it, it may hurt to breathe.

e) Colder than -40 °C (-40 °F): Extreme cold snap. Rare, can sometimes get a couple days a year for nighttime lows. I don't expect Scouts to operate well here, because, well, no vehicle operates well here. When it's this cold, we just expect people to not show up for work because stuff stops working. When outside, the condensation from your breath can freeze your eyelashes together. You develop moustache icicles. You wonder why you don't live somewhere nicer. It's probably what it's like to be in a severe heat wave in the southern states, where one simply can't function outside.

I will now create some dummy posts to edit later, each categorised based on some key concepts.
Welcome to the community! Glad you decided to take the plunge and post!
 
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Placeholder: Supplementary

Q: What temperature ranges are the Scouts currently being stress tested at?

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Q: Are there any plans to test in severe or extreme cold scenarios?

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All great but I suspect it may be a while until you get solid answers but loving the in depth questions for a zone of the world I don’t worry about as sub zero is less than a few days a year and I have a garage so I tend to not worry so much
 
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I'm pragmatic and understand it won't necessarily make sense to engineer the vehicles for a fringe condition in a smaller market. Our summers are amazing here, and due to northern latitude with our 18 hours of daylight my solar system pumps out power like crazy. The shoulder seasons are fine too. I just need to understand how much of an impact it will have during the outlier weather patterns. Even a 50% drop in range (seems unlikely) during the coldest days wouldn't leave me stranded on the way to work with a BEV (Tesla is everywhere here BTW), but would change my charging habits especially if my panels are covered in fresh snow. So the BEV vs EREV factor comes into play, but so does the economics since a lot of our fuel savings will be eaten up by the USD/CAD exchange rate and the "Canadian factor" that makes stuff more expensive that it should after exchange and taxes (see Rivian).