Is there anything SM could offer to get you to switch from EREV to BEV?

[SpaceEVDriver]

Agreed. I often wonder if there would have been more EV adoption without a "mandate" (even though there was no mandate). Sometimes even just talking about something that hypothetically could have happened 10 years from now appears to really "turn-off" a lot of Americans.

I don’t think so.

The hate and pushback I got when I bought one of the first hybrids in the US (2001 Prius purchased in early 2002) was intense. I get almost exactly the same kind of attitude when I drive to the “wrong” parts of the country in my Mustang Mach-E.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

Would you care to elaborate? Not just for my own curiosity, but also because Scout does read these posts.

Honestly, I really don’t even want to go down that road since everyone here seems to have decided that a BEV is the correct choice for everyone and anyone who chooses otherwise is an absolute moron. That’s the entire reason I waited so long to even answer the question. I suppose I should have just kept quiet.

Everyone doesn’t live in the same environment. Everyone doesn’t use their vehicle in the same manner.

With that said, I’ll elaborate a tiny bit, just for context: “Many reasons” is the answer. The reality is my family tows frequently, we do not live in a metropolis, the area around us in less than a 50 mile radius varies in elevation by a decent amount (+/- 3,000-5,500 or more feet depending on the direction), we frequently take quick and long road trips, and we spend a great deal of time “in the middle of nowhere”. Sometimes we combine those activities and take a long and quick road trip while towing or we may tow into the middle of nowhere. We’ll see in time what the final specs are, but at this point my answer to the question is definitely a hard no.

 

[LastDayScout]

Honestly, I really don’t even want to go down that road since everyone here seems to have decided that a BEV is the correct choice for everyone and anyone who chooses otherwise is an absolute moron. That’s the entire reason I waited so long to even answer the question. I suppose I should have just kept quiet.

Everyone doesn’t live in the same environment. Everyone doesn’t use their vehicle in the same manner.

With that said, I’ll elaborate a tiny bit, just for context: “Many reasons” is the answer. The reality is my family tows frequently, we do not live in a metropolis, the area around us in less than a 50 mile radius varies in elevation by a decent amount (+/- 3,000-5,500 or more feet depending on the direction), we frequently take quick and long road trips, and we spend a great deal of time “in the middle of nowhere”. Sometimes we combine those activities and take a long and quick road trip while towing or we may tow into the middle of nowhere. We’ll see in time what the final specs are, but at this point my answer to the question is definitely a hard no.

I’m really not trying to come off as an EV zealot. I’m genuinely interested in your answers. This is a forum after all. The point being we can all discuss viewpoints and opinions. It sounds like you are a perfect Harvester candidate. I think it’s great because if EV was the only option I suppose you may not even be considering Scout. With that said, you’re going to love the EV part

 

[Scoutsie]

Honestly, I really don’t even want to go down that road since everyone here seems to have decided that a BEV is the correct choice for everyone and anyone who chooses otherwise is an absolute moron. That’s the entire reason I waited so long to even answer the question. I suppose I should have just kept quiet.

Everyone doesn’t live in the same environment. Everyone doesn’t use their vehicle in the same manner.

With that said, I’ll elaborate a tiny bit, just for context: “Many reasons” is the answer. The reality is my family tows frequently, we do not live in a metropolis, the area around us in less than a 50 mile radius varies in elevation by a decent amount (+/- 3,000-5,500 or more feet depending on the direction), we frequently take quick and long road trips, and we spend a great deal of time “in the middle of nowhere”. Sometimes we combine those activities and take a long and quick road trip while towing or we may tow into the middle of nowhere. We’ll see in time what the final specs are, but at this point my answer to the question is definitely a hard no.

No, it makes sense to me. I know we’re spoiled here in the northeast as far as infrastructure goes for charging, but I know that it’s not the case everywhere in the US.

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

Sigh! So many things to consider. When it comes time to order—if it makes sense for me, I’ll buy. If not, I’ll pass on a purchase. So for me it’s BEV, EREV, or nothing. And my feelings won’t be hurt. It’s been a fun ride on this forum so far. I’ll stick with @cyure’s mantra—Faith and Patience.

 

[Firemedic2714]

This question will tell me everything I need to know about you. Modern or Mikes?

Bova's, but Bova's before everyone found out about Bova's. And The pizza place at the start of Salem St., Ernesto's is > Regina's. There are your Townie Medic's Tourist Destinations.

 

[BartMan Terra Total EV]

Honestly, I really don’t even want to go down that road since everyone here seems to have decided that a BEV is the correct choice for everyone and anyone who chooses otherwise is an absolute moron. That’s the entire reason I waited so long to even answer the question. I suppose I should have just kept quiet.

Everyone doesn’t live in the same environment. Everyone doesn’t use their vehicle in the same manner.

With that said, I’ll elaborate a tiny bit, just for context: “Many reasons” is the answer. The reality is my family tows frequently, we do not live in a metropolis, the area around us in less than a 50 mile radius varies in elevation by a decent amount (+/- 3,000-5,500 or more feet depending on the direction), we frequently take quick and long road trips, and we spend a great deal of time “in the middle of nowhere”. Sometimes we combine those activities and take a long and quick road trip while towing or we may tow into the middle of nowhere. We’ll see in time what the final specs are, but at this point my answer to the question is definitely a hard no.

What do you tow

 

[Firemedic2714]

Genuinely curious. When and where do you sleep?

It may well be that the Harvester is the right choice for you, and since Scout is making both powertrain options, you will be covered either way.

What I, and others are trying to understand is that from the perspective of someone who owns and has experience with a BEV living and driving in a rural area, it seems like your situation would actually work well with a BEV as long as you are able to install a home L2 charger. But again, luckily Scout is making both options so if the Harvester really is the right option for you, you will have that available. I just wonder if you were to rent an EV with similar range to what Scout has said their BEV variant will have (350 miles) and try it out for a few days or a week or so and see if it matches your expectation. You might be surprised.

Let's have some
When and where do you sleep?
Answer: When I can. Usually between hockey practices, errands, and pretending I know what I’m doing as an adult.

It may well be that the Harvester is the right choice for you…
That’s where I keep landing. My house is older, the panel’s already hosting a full house, and our power grid likes to take unscheduled vacations every time there’s a decent storm.

As for trying a BEV for a week...I actually rented a Mustang Mach-E on vacation a couple years back. Fun to drive, no complaints there, but finding chargers felt like a side quest I didn’t sign up for. Maybe it’s better now, but with my schedule, rink runs, doctors, errands, repeat, I don’t have the luxury of planning my day around a charging stop.

I get why BEVs work great for a lot of folks, especially with reliable home charging. Different lives, different lanes. For me, the Harvester just fits the chaos a little better.
And hey, lucky for all of us, Scout’s building both. Nobody has to join a cult to buy a truck.

 

[RodorW]

everyone here seems to have decided that a BEV is the correct choice for everyone and anyone who chooses otherwise is an absolute moron.

This is a forum for everyone to discuss their experiences and opinions, and while it sounds like you’re a good fit with EREV I feel the quoted line here is a bit harsh. I have seen what we say, and realize it can seem like we’re saying BEV is for everyone, but the reality is there are many people coming to scout from ICE that have no EV experience and will jump to EREV with no hesitation and not need to, those of us with EV experience or continued EV ownership are trying to help those without understand that BEV isn’t as scary as the internet makes it seem. And there can be unfortunate side effects of that, where it seems like we’re saying it fit everyone, but on the other hand what happens if BEV under performs because the market is afraid? Ford certainly didn’t help matters any. So I do understand how it can feel that way, from your point of view, but your not the type of person were trying to help get off the fence, you know what you need and there’s little to no question if the EREV is a better fit for you situation, but for others that won’t be towing frequently or never even looked into EV ownership they may blindly chose EREV because they fear the possibility of range anxiety when in reality they’ll never use more than 30 miles a day

 

[Scoutsie]

Bova's, but Bova's before everyone found out about Bova's. And The pizza place at the start of Salem St., Ernesto's is > Regina's. There are your Townie Medic's Tourist Destinations.

Correct pizza answer is Santarpio’s. Everyone knows pizza tastes best when served by someone who acts like you did them wrong.

 

[Scoutsie]

This is a forum for everyone to discuss their experiences and opinions, and while it sounds like you’re a good fit with EREV I feel the quoted line here is a bit harsh. I have seen what we say, and realize it can seem like we’re saying BEV is for everyone, but the reality is there are many people coming to scout from ICE that have no EV experience and will jump to EREV with no hesitation and not need to, those of us with EV experience or continued EV ownership are trying to help those without understand that BEV isn’t as scary as the internet makes it seem. And there can be unfortunate side effects of that, where it seems like we’re saying it fit everyone, but on the other hand what happens if BEV under performs because the market is afraid? Ford certainly didn’t help matters any. So I do understand how it can feel that way, from your point of view, but your not the type of person were trying to help get off the fence, you know what you need and there’s little to no question if the EREV is a better fit for you situation, but for others that won’t be towing frequently or never even looked into EV ownership they may blindly chose EREV because they fear the possibility of range anxiety when in reality they’ll never use more than 30 miles a day

We’re all products of our experiences.

Also, if anyone really wants to ever feel like they’re being talked down to, spend some time with anti-car/pro-bike people. The ones around here in Boston are infuriatingly shortsighted. They think it is reasonable to want the city to be 100% car-free, just bikes. Everyone on bikes, including the elderly and disabled. They’re really not putting any thought into this at all about how how ableist and selfish this is.

 

[RodorW]

We’re all products of our experiences.

Also, if anyone really wants to ever feel like they’re being talked down to, spend some time with anti-car/pro-bike people. The ones around here in Boston are infuriatingly shortsighted. They think it is reasonable to want the city to be 100% car-free, just bikes. Everyone on bikes, including the elderly and disabled. They’re really not putting any thought into this at all about how how ableist and selfish this is.

I opened youtube to this video, it's not bad, and has some funny bits, but the comments are full of "bikes and public transit"

 

[Cranky Canuck]

I opened youtube to this video, it's not bad, and has some funny bits, but the comments are full of "bikes and public transit"

Climate Town is the best!

 

[Firemedic2714]

Correct pizza answer is Santarpio’s. Everyone knows pizza tastes best when served by someone who acts like you did them wrong.

Meh, I had Santarpio's shoved down my throat all the time. Grew up less than 5 min walk from there. Sauce was super sugary.

 

[Scoutsie]

Meh, I had Santarpio's shoved down my throat all the time. Grew up less than 5 min walk from there. Sauce was super sugary.

Not even the barbecue? I am not a fan of either lamb or sausage and I have to admit that they do both pretty darn well. In my opinion, you go to Eastie for the copious and delicious foods of the Americas these days, anyhow. There are some pretty great Colombian places, not to mention the great Taqueria Jalisco. I haven’t gone there in a minute, but man do they make a good taco.

Can we at least agree that people who say you can’t leave town without going to Regina for a slice are horribly misguided?

 

[ChasingCoral]

With all I have learned on this forum, looking at my driving use cases, and the fact that EVs are a lot less maintenance I have officially switched my reservation to a BEV. I’m on the EV bandwagon!

Now there’s been lots of discussion about which will come first, EREV or BEV. Let’s say the BEV comes out first could Scout offer something to entice EREV reservation holders to take the leap and buy a BEV.

What would it take to get you EREV reservation holders to purchase the BEV? A free home charger? Money towards the installation? Buy a BEV and get moved to the front of the line for an EREV (Rivian was doing that. If you leased an R1 it got you moved to the front of the line for an R2. They told me that when I test drove one last year).

What do you all think? You fence sitters what would push you over the edge??

I initially reserved an EREV but am no longer interested in burning dinosaur juice. I would only buy a BEV now and there is no way to change my early reservation.

 

[cyure]

I initially reserved an EREV but am no longer interested in burning dinosaur juice. I would only buy a BEV now and there is no way to change my early reservation.

Hi, oh yes there is! Just go into your reservation and edit it and select what you want. That’s what I did. It will not change your number or place in line. Even if you don’t do that we aren’t locked in until we place our order. You can select either vehicle and BEV or EREV on order, welcome to the BEV club!

 

[J Alynn]

I initially reserved an EREV but am no longer interested in burning dinosaur juice. I would only buy a BEV now and there is no way to change my early reservation.

Welcome to the forum. Love having BEV members speak up to let SM know we want them too

 

[Firemedic2714]

Not even the barbecue? I am not a fan of either lamb or sausage and I have to admit that they do both pretty darn well. In my opinion, you go to Eastie for the copious and delicious foods of the Americas these days, anyhow. There are some pretty great Colombian places, not to mention the great Taqueria Jalisco. I haven’t gone there in a minute, but man do they make a good taco.



Can we at least agree that people who say you can’t leave town without going to Regina for a slice are horribly misguided?

Haha I haven’t had Santarpio's pizza in a while, so I’ll try the BBQ next time I’m over there. And yeah, Regina’s is kind of a tourist trap, not bad, just way better slices around. Eastie’s always had gems anyway… back in the day it was Morelli's and Jeveli’s, grabbing a slice and hanging in the smoking section. Now it’s more Central/South American spots and taquerias. Same neighborhood, just more good food.

 

[mattbrew]

Exactly...

That’s where I have always been. Sticking with my bev Terra reservation until im convinced otherwise.