Is there anything SM could offer to get you to switch from EREV to BEV?

[CSpott]

With all I have learned on this forum, looking at my driving use cases, and the fact that EVs are a lot less maintenance I have officially switched my reservation to a BEV. I’m on the EV bandwagon!

Now there’s been lots of discussion about which will come first, EREV or BEV. Let’s say the BEV comes out first could Scout offer something to entice EREV reservation holders to take the leap and buy a BEV.

What would it take to get you EREV reservation holders to purchase the BEV? A free home charger? Money towards the installation? Buy a BEV and get moved to the front of the line for an EREV (Rivian was doing that. If you leased an R1 it got you moved to the front of the line for an R2. They told me that when I test drove one last year).

What do you all think? You fence sitters what would push you over the edge??

I'm already leaning toward making the switch. For me, it wouldn't take much. And, for me, the biggest factor is maintenance. I'd much rather not have to deal with the maintenance of the generator on top of regular EV maintenance.

 

[cyure]

I'm already leaning toward making the switch. For me, it wouldn't take much. And, for me, the biggest factor is maintenance. I'd much rather not have to deal with the maintenance of the generator on top of regular EV maintenance.

Same. That’s what pushed me over to BEV and I changed my reservation a few weeks ago.

 

[Variable430]

I’m curious: If power is out for an extended time because of a big disaster like an earthquake or volcanic eruption, how much do you want to be involved in the scramble to acquire gasoline? And how much gasoline do you think would realistically be available to consumers?

I love this. One of the reasons I’m interested in the Scout is if SHTF kinda go anywhere do anything vehicle. The question is in that scenario where everything is fubar are you better off with EV only or am EREV? I don’t think gasoline supplies will be readily available but electric generation is likely to be hampered as well. This might sound far fetched but with the way our country is nose diving into the earth not beyond the realm of possibility.

 

[Variable430]

Even though I would never want the EREV, I'm sort of a fan of Scout for providing the EREV option as a bridge to EV ownership for certain people that are fence sitters. Since many Americans have never owned or experienced an EV yet, the EREV is one way to help those buyers cross the chasm if they have doubts or need some reassurances... So, I think Scout should just keep doing what they are doing and offering the EREV to those that want gas AND electric.

It's clear that the oil and gas faction is clinging on to ICE as hard as possible - they will spew as much FUD as they can to retain what little is left of an essentially obsolete technology. I see the value in the EREV version of the Scout to enable more progress toward cleaner mobility. I also see value for those that like to boondock a lot and go off-grid (even if it is a very niche group).

Post-launch, and after having trucks in the market for a certain period of time, I could see Scout incentivizing EREV owners to "trade-up" to a new PURE BEV Scout. My theory being that a lot of EREV owners will come around 180 degrees on the benefits of the pure BEV, but still love their Scout. They will be a valuable and captive audience for the second wave of Scout ownership, and many will trade-up to get into a BEV by that time - simply based on the advancements with infrastructure and new battery tech.

As a BEV owner I concur with the one caveat being we need to see what the real world efficiency numbers are gonna be. Either Terra or Traveler is about as aerodynamic as a brick so if you end up getting 200 highway miles of range that’s a problem. If the numbers are decent (3mil/kwh)on the highway I’m switching to Bev.

 

[Variable430]

These scenarios sound truly like doomsday scenarios.

Not really. We are due. Mother Nature has her own sense of timing and we haven’t done ourselves any favors.

 

[Logan]

As a BEV owner I concur with the one caveat being we need to see what the real world efficiency numbers are gonna be. Either Terra or Traveler is about as aerodynamic as a brick so if you end up getting 200 highway miles of range that’s a problem. If the numbers are decent (3mil/kwh)on the highway I’m switching to Bev.

We don’t know for sure, but I’d be very skeptical that we will see efficiency numbers that high on the highway (at least at around 70mph).

I have an Ioniq 9, which is ballpark similar in size to the scouts. It sits between the traveler and terra in length, is a touch narrower, and is way lower to the ground, running street tires. It also is pretty aero for its size (about 200inches long, and just shy of 6000lbs). And on the highway, it gets between 2.8-3.2miles/kwh at 70mph or thereabouts.

I’m not hoping for much more efficiency than a Rivian, just given its size and shape, and the tires it is likely to be wearing.

I am however curious to see the numbers whenever they come out.

 

[R1TVT]

I’m not hoping for much more efficiency than a Rivian, just given its size and shape, and the tires it is likely to be wearing.

I am however curious to see the numbers whenever they come out.

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