Ideal Small Sized Vehicle

[J Alynn]

So various discussions have cued on smaller or larger SUV next from Scout.
When people say smaller are you thinking:
A-Suzuki Jimney
B-Honda CRV/Toyota RAV4
Or
C-4-door Bronco/Honda Passport

And should it be fully capable as well or more of a daily driver?

Is it a complete open top lifestyle vehicle or a more practical utility vehicle-or both?

What are one or two of the most key features for said vehicle if you are in the market for smaller than Traveler SM vehicle.

What is an acceptable range-both BEV or Harvester?

Perhaps we can help SM in their planning and shed some light on what smaller model means to us and what the most common needs are for a vehicle that is smaller than the traveler.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

So various discussions have cued on smaller or larger SUV next from Scout.
When people say smaller are you thinking:
A-Suzuki Jimney
B-Honda CRV/Toyota RAV4
Or
C-4-door Bronco/Honda Passport

And should it be fully capable as well or more of a daily driver?

Is it a complete open top lifestyle vehicle or a more practical utility vehicle-or both?

What are one or two of the most key features for said vehicle if you are in the market for smaller than Traveler SM vehicle.

What is an acceptable range-both BEV or Harvester?

Perhaps we can help SM in their planning and shed some light on what smaller model means to us and what the most common needs are for a vehicle that is smaller than the traveler.

For my purposes, B, daily driver, BEV. Something like an r2, but with scout design.

 

[RodorW]

Open top, 2 door, user friendly, capable daily driver, fold flat rubber lined rear seats to make the trunk a bed when it’s needed, and capable of at-least 300 miles on a full charge

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

About the size of a 1979 Scout II Traveler.
180-184 inches long
118 inches wheelbase
71-74 inches wide
65-67 inches tall
9-12 inches ground clearance
350 miles range

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

About the size of a 1979 Scout II Traveler.
180-184 inches long
118 inches wheelbase
71-74 inches wide
65-67 inches tall
9-12 inches ground clearance
350 miles range

Or even somewhere in between this and the 800

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Or even somewhere in between this and the 800

Agreed. I would prefer smaller than my post suggested, but I didn't know if it would sell.

It's probably time to remind people that the largest IH SUV, the Travelall, was smaller than the 2028 Scout Traveler will be.

	Width	Length	WB
Traveler	80	190 w/o spare	120
Travelall	78	187	119

 

[Colton_Scout80]

Agreed. I would prefer smaller than my post suggested, but I didn't know if it would sell.

It's probably time to remind people that the largest IH SUV, the Travelall, was smaller than the 2028 Scout Traveler will be.

	Width	Length	WB
Traveler	80	190 w/o spare	120
Travelall	78	187	119

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I would love for Scout to bring back a Travelall one day!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I would love for Scout to bring back a Travelall one day!

They basically are, just updated for today’s style cues!

I think you mean the classic styling as much as the size. I bet with a bit of clever wrapping, the Traveler could be made to look a lot like the Travelall.

Here’s some ai slop approximating that. Needs chrome wheels and a piece of chrome trim along the length.

 

[Colton_Scout80]

They basically are, just updated for today’s style cues!

I think you mean the classic styling as much as the size. I bet with a bit of clever wrapping, the Traveler could be made to look a lot like the Travelall.

Here’s some ai slop approximating that. Needs chrome wheels and a piece of chrome trim along the length.

View attachment 13619

They kind of are lol

 

[LastDayScout]

So various discussions have cued on smaller or larger SUV next from Scout.
When people say smaller are you thinking:
A-Suzuki Jimney
B-Honda CRV/Toyota RAV4
Or
C-4-door Bronco/Honda Passport

And should it be fully capable as well or more of a daily driver?

Is it a complete open top lifestyle vehicle or a more practical utility vehicle-or both?

What are one or two of the most key features for said vehicle if you are in the market for smaller than Traveler SM vehicle.

What is an acceptable range-both BEV or Harvester?

Perhaps we can help SM in their planning and shed some light on what smaller model means to us and what the most common needs are for a vehicle that is smaller than the traveler.

I would throw the Jeep Cherokee XJ into that mix as a benchmark. It was nearly perfect in all aspects. Certainly passenger comfort and quality could be improved.

 

[LastDayScout]

I would love for Scout to bring back a Travelall one day!

I am 99% sure that is what Scott is talking about when he says they are looking at the 3 row variant for the future.

 

[Colton_Scout80]

I am 99% sure that is what Scott is talking about when he says they are looking at the 3 row variant for the future.

That's what I am thinking as well.

 

[speedrye]

I am 99% sure that is what Scott is talking about when he says they are looking at the 3 row variant for the future.

Pretty much a Suburban version of a Tahoe, in Scout form.

 

[LastDayScout]

So various discussions have cued on smaller or larger SUV next from Scout.
When people say smaller are you thinking:
A-Suzuki Jimney
B-Honda CRV/Toyota RAV4
Or
C-4-door Bronco/Honda Passport

And should it be fully capable as well or more of a daily driver?

Is it a complete open top lifestyle vehicle or a more practical utility vehicle-or both?

What are one or two of the most key features for said vehicle if you are in the market for smaller than Traveler SM vehicle.

What is an acceptable range-both BEV or Harvester?

Perhaps we can help SM in their planning and shed some light on what smaller model means to us and what the most common needs are for a vehicle that is smaller than the traveler.

Benchmark Jeep XJ and Gen 3 4Runner for exterior. Increase cabin space and comfort. 300 miles EV and maybe 400 Harvester range. Needs to be trail capable obviously, but really needs to urban friendly. Think tight parking, narrow streets, nimble, comfortable and timeless design. Not trendy. I have said this before we saw the Traveler and Terra but think about the 4runner and how ubiquitous it is. It looks at home on the trail, in the rocks, doing outdoor sports, work, going out for a night on the town, and just everyday stuff. It is not judged negatively by any class of buyer. That is the formula. It can have multiple drivetrains, single motor RWD, dual motor AWD and full-on 4x4 depending on your needs. It should be the Lexus GX to the Lexus LX or Toyota Prado to the Toyota full size Landcruiser. For me, full open top is not desirable. I know it is to some. I am looking for more utility and comfort. I do think there is a space for a Wrangler Bronco competitor, but it will be relatively low volume and niche.

 

[J Alynn]

I would throw the Jeep Cherokee XJ into that mix as a benchmark. It was nearly perfect in all aspects. Certainly passenger comfort and quality could be improved.

That is a good one. Had the iconic boxy feel. Always wonder why they moved away from that look

 

[BeerParty]

I wonder if Scout is considering making a smaller pickup in the near future?

I'm thinking of something about the same size as the Ford Maverick. That seems like the size Ford is targeting with their new EV truck, though I think the styling is going to be an issue since Ford is focusing on efficiency to get the desired range.

If Scout was offering a mid-sized all-electric truck that matched the Scout styling and still focused on off-road capability, I would switch my reservation in a heartbeat. Even if it had a shorter bed and less interior room (so it could be shorter and narrower than the Terra).

 

[chucchinchilla]

Next model I expect would be a 3 row Traveler.
Next model after that would be a Rivian R2 competitor
If they feel like it: Small truck based on the above.
Notable mention: Contract to build Traveler based Audi SUV.

 

[LastDayScout]

Next model I expect would be a 3 row Traveler.
Next model after that would be a Rivian R2 competitor
If they feel like it: Small truck based on the above.
Notable mention: Contract to build Traveler based Audi SUV.

I concur. They already have the big platform so that’s relatively low effort and quicker returns.

 

[chucchinchilla]

I concur. They already have the big platform so that’s relatively low effort and quicker returns.

First one is a no brainer and let's not forget the "Travelstar XL" trademark. Yes they went with Traveler instead, but that XL was there for a reason.

 

[J Alynn]

First one is a no brainer and let's not forget the "Travelstar XL" trademark. Yes they went with Traveler instead, but that XL was there for a reason.

But Travelall just seems more appropriate but just me thinking out loud