I like it personally. Thanks for sharing.
That said, $50k just for the deposit. Guess I'm out
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I like it personally. Thanks for sharing.
That said, $50k just for the deposit. Guess I'm out
And a price tag of $500kI like it personally. Thanks for sharing.
That said, $50k just for the deposit. Guess I'm out
You are thinking of Dr. Seuss. I think his name had two S’s but we claim him anyway. My last name is Giesel, like Diesel with a G.
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Foundations rising. Future unfolding. The first tilt panel of the Battery Assembly Building now stands—marking our Supplier Park’s first vertical milestone. This facility will connect individual battery cells into complete packs to be delivered to our main assembly operations. A bold step in...
This is huge news!
Ok, that makes more sense now. I tried googling and thought maybe I was missing something. As I often am.
Scout’s New Trucks Are Bringing Back Buttons — and We Love It — Autoblog
Scout CEO promises their electric trucks will buck the touchscreen trend with mechanical switches and tactile controls.
I wonder what the statistics are in the US for PHEVS that don’t get plugged in.
My FIL is in his 70s and buying what he expects to be his last car. Man has been driving a 2000 Tahoe since he bought it new...and the only new cars he wants to look at are PHEVs "so that I get better fuel economy".
Anything will be better than the Tahoe, but he only got a smartphone 2 years ago and I will be shocked if he actually charges at home regularly or just gets gas all the time.
Not sure this is the correct string to post the following. My hope from the get go was that the BEV models would get up to 420 mile range by relese time. But now with all the talk about the Harvester models releasing first I wonder if resources will go with those models and improving the range on the BEV will never happen. My guess is if SM just got to 420 or more some of those Harvester reservations will change to BEV.
Where did Scout say 420?
I may have missed that one, and I am basing my decision on the Terra BEV going for an estimated 350 mile range:
There’s plenty of space under the Terra/Traveler BEV for a Rivian Max Pack-sized NMC battery (140 kWh), but the Scouts will have to meet a higher, more difficult efficiency number (3 miles/kWh) to match the Rivian’s range of up to 420 miles. And given their frontal area, I’m skeptical they’ll get there. But we’ll see. It would be fantastic if Scout decides to offer several battery options for the BEV with commensurate prices attached.
I think the poster was alluding to ways of combating range anxiety. For the most part, that is the entire purpose of the Harvester. But I am sure EV companies have done studies to see the relationship between customers pre-sales range anxiety and the estimated range of the EV. I am sure many more people are willing to buy an EV with a 300 mile range than a 200 miles range. But I really don't know how that trend continues when you go to 350 miles, or from 350 miles to 420 miles. Range anxiety at some point might fade to the point that the Harvester is no longer needed as a solution. But it will be diminishing returns.
Then there is the question - how much does price influence sales. You could solve range anxiety, but hit a price point you loose more sales than you gain. This does not take much of a study, EV companies have routinely offered extended range versions - and they know the percentage of customers that take that option. There is also the question of pre-sales vs post sales range anxiety. But you have to get the customer to commit first. Still, range anxiety seems a lot lower for people AFTER they have owned an EV. EV companies also know what percentage of second time EV buyers pay for the extended range option.
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So sure, I know I would be much more comfortable buying my first EV with a range of 420 miles than one with 350 miles - even though in the real world there are probably few trips where the extra 70 miles would make that much of a difference. My use case is different than most others though. I have 1 trip I do fairly often (every 2 weeks, sometimes every week) that is about 200 miles. Not a problem, but I am usually towing a light trailer, and it is through a charging desert (one charging location - at 1/2 way on one leg (so while I absolutely need a 100 mile range with the trailer, I really want more than 150 miles so I don't need to charge 2x. I would pay more for that range insurance.
Then there is the question - how much does price influence sales. You could solve range anxiety, but hit a price point you loose more sales than you gain. This does not take much of a study, EV companies have routinely offered extended range versions - and they know the percentage of customers that take that option. There is also the question of pre-sales vs post sales range anxiety. But you have to get the customer to commit first. Still, range anxiety seems a lot lower for people AFTER they have owned an EV. EV companies also know what percentage of second time EV buyers pay for the extended range option.
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So sure, I know I would be much more comfortable buying my first EV with a range of 420 miles than one with 350 miles - even though in the real world there are probably few trips where the extra 70 miles would make that much of a difference. My use case is different than most others though. I have 1 trip I do fairly often (every 2 weeks, sometimes every week) that is about 200 miles. Not a problem, but I am usually towing a light trailer, and it is through a charging desert (one charging location - at 1/2 way on one leg (so while I absolutely need a 100 mile range with the trailer, I really want more than 150 miles so I don't need to charge 2x. I would pay more for that range insurance.
Interesting hopefully more then 350. I just don't think thats enough especially for the Terra. I bet that is why the Harvester is appealing to so many. You would think that Scout could match Riv as the riv has more ground clearance. My guess is a max pack battery option would need air suspension agustments to get 420.
And then what is the price. SM keeps saying $20,000 less than their competitor. Would they be able to hold to that if they start ramping up the range and adding motors.
Just commented on other thread-same applies-Gotta love Dad logic!
Nothing has been stated EREV first. This is a rumor spreading daily that has not been confirmed by anyone at Scout
Exactly this-where is the sweet spot. At 20K more that’s a lot of money to prevent an extra 30 minutes on an occasional long distance road trip. Early in any phase of something like this everyone wants the extreme use cases even though majority of buyers will fall right into the range and use the studies tell SM to design to
Great article. Thanks for sharing. Now to get EVERYONE to read this
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