Do You Want Your Scout To Have A Hands-Free Driving System?

[eddiet1212]

Do You Want Your Scout To Have A Hands-Free Driving System?

I do NOT want my Scout to drive itself.

Part of owning a hands-on vehicle would be the satisfaction of tactile power over your destiny while enjoying the ride.

If I wanted a robo-car then I could buy a future Rivian.

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Rivian to launch hands-free driving system in 2025, 'eyes-off' in 2026

Rivian to launch hands-free driving system in 2025, 'eyes-off' in 2026, CEO says

(Reuters) -Electric-vehicle maker Rivian plans to launch its advanced hands-free driver assistance systems in 2025 and its "eyes-off" systems in 2026, CEO RJ Scaringe said on Thursday. An advanced driver assistance system that enables drivers to take their hands off the wheel and eyes off the...

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[cyure]

To keep the truck more affordable, a full hands-free system is not desired. My Subaru has lane-keeping and adaptive cruise control. The adaptive cruise is now a must have. I use it in traffic jams and my stress instantly drops. But please no hands-free system.

Jamie has stated level 2+. So no full hands free system anticipated. At least at launch anyway.

 

[dreamweaver]

Here is the link to Jamies statement.

Post in thread 'Do You Want Your Scout To Have A Hands-Free Driving System?'

Jun 2, 2025

Level II+ is the currently planned option.

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[THil08]

Chris Benj state level 2. No plus. In the motor trend video. My guess is that the Lidar sensor is going to change the look of the scout too much.

 

[dreamweaver]

Chris Benj state level 2. No plus. In the motor trend video. My guess is that the Lidar sensor is going to change the look of the scout too much.

Level II is Partial automation
Level II+ is Enhanced partial automation
As SpaceEVDriver said, it seems this is mostly marketing.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Chris Benj state level 2. No plus. In the motor trend video. My guess is that the Lidar sensor is going to change the look of the scout too much.

Level 2+ is level 2, they’re saying the same thing.

 

[THil08]

Level 2+ is level 2, they’re saying the same thing.

I always tough and told that L2+ was with Lidar and Sensors and Cameras and L2 was just sensors and cameras?

 

[dreamweaver]

I always tough and told that L2+ was with Lidar and Sensors and Cameras and L2 was just sensors and cameras?

While trying to find good information on autonomous driving levels 2 vs 2+ all I could find was statements like: "LiDAR technology is a key component in many Level 2+ systems.” and “Level 2+ driving automation often incorporates LiDAR to enhance safety and functionality.” As if there might be a Level 2+ that doesn't use LiDAR. Stay tuned.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

There is no SAE standard that supports a differentiation of 2 and 2+. The difference between levels 2 and 3 (or any other levels) is functional. SAE doesn't prescribe how the function is achieved. Could be sensors, could be software, could be a combination.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

I always tough and told that L2+ was with Lidar and Sensors and Cameras and L2 was just sensors and cameras?

No, nothing to do with sensors, everything to do with what is required of the driver. There is a specific definition of L2, meaning that it can include the car controlling the brakes/accelerator and the steering, but the key thing is that the driver is fully responsible and has to be constantly monitoring and ready to take the wheel at any moment. L2+ is not well defined, it is just an informal way of saying “all the latest cool things, not just lane centering and cruise”. My take on what Jamie said is we can expect the typical tech that’s available in reasonably advanced cars these days, but they’re not pushing heavy automation like Tesla or Rivian , so I expect most folks here will be happy.

You could have lidar that’s just to give warnings for emergency braking, that’d be level 0 or 1, but til recently lidar was pretty expensive so it’s only found on cars that use it for lots of fancy stuff.

 

[THil08]

No, nothing to do with sensors, everything to do with what is required of the driver. There is a specific definition of L2, meaning that it can include the car controlling the brakes/accelerator and the steering, but the key thing is that the driver is fully responsible and has to be constantly monitoring and ready to take the wheel at any moment. L2+ is not well defined, it is just an informal way of saying “all the latest cool things, not just lane centering and cruise”. My take on what Jamie said is we can expect the typical tech that’s available in reasonably advanced cars these days, but they’re not pushing heavy automation like Tesla or Rivian , so I expect most folks here will be happy.

You could have lidar that’s just to give warnings for emergency braking, that’d be level 0 or 1, but til recently lidar was pretty expensive so it’s only found on cars that use it for lots of fancy stuff.

Gotcha, thanks for the explanation. I always thought that LiDAR was needed for L2+. Thanks for taking time to explain.