Current EV owners…are you staying BEV or switching to Harvester?

[MountainDad]

A couple of thoughts on this topic that reinforce why I don’t think most people need the EREV.
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Even with an ICE, you have to stop for gas. It’s not like the stop to charge is something you only have to do with an EV. The stop is maybe 10 minutes longer, but maybe you were going to take a longer stop anyway.
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This is true if you're going to use this as a mall crawler, which, to be honest, the vast majority of buyers will do.

But when I'm off-road I can carry 5-10 gal of fuel with me to extend my range another 50-100 miles in off road driving conditions.

I cannot, today or in the foreseeable future, carry an equivalent range value of electrons.

 

[R1TVT]

This is true if you're going to use this as a mall crawler, which, to be honest, the vast majority of buyers will do.

But when I'm off-road I can carry 5-10 gal of fuel with me to extend my range another 50-100 miles in off road driving conditions.

I cannot, today or in the foreseeable future, carry an equivalent range value of electrons.

Actually you can carry an equivalent range value of electrons, but it is a very pricey endeavor at this stage (new / expensive technology either through a generator or through a mobile or offroad/trailerable battery pack).

I think this use-case of needing extended range where there is zero infrastructure and you want to boondock for days & not worry at all about SOC is a perfect example of where the EREV will shine. Of course this is for a very specific edge case (compared to the majority of people that will buy a Scout) but it is a good one. As infrastructure continues to improve and as people discover new places to charge at a national park or campground overnite, demand for the EREV will likely lessen. Everything is a trade-off. Boondocking in remote wilderness areas for extended periods may just be the perfect advertisement for the EREV Scout and also appeal to a broad audience of anyone that loves the outdoors to sell EITHER the EREV or BEV truck too.

 

[MountainDad]

Actually you can carry an equivalent range value of electrons, but it is a very pricey endeavor at this stage (new / expensive technology either through a generator or through a mobile or offroad/trailerable battery pack).

Yes, this in theory will work, but it's exceptionally inefficient, especially for off-road travel. The inefficiency of driving off road is compounded by the massive weight of a trailer with batteries. More weight and difficult roads reduces efficiency and thus range, which means you need a bigger battery in the trailer, which brings more weight, which means less efficiency, which means you need a bigger battery, which means more weight, which means...and so on.

You could rig up a generator in the truck bed or overland trailer but again, why, when the Harvester is available? Harbor Freight has an 13,000W 240V/50A genny for $1300, but then you have to mount it and rig up a home L2 charger (another ~$700 just sitting in the box), and still, you're running that thing all night to charge up.

I am interested in the packaging of the Harvester - how much cargo area is it going to eat in my Traveler? And can I change the oil, filters, plugs, service the coolant, etc in my garage?

 

[R1TVT]

Yes, this in theory will work, but it's exceptionally inefficient, especially for off-road travel. The inefficiency of driving off road is compounded by the massive weight of a trailer with batteries. More weight and difficult roads reduces efficiency and thus range, which means you need a bigger battery in the trailer, which brings more weight, which means less efficiency, which means you need a bigger battery, which means more weight, which means...and so on.

You could rig up a generator in the truck bed or overland trailer but again, why, when the Harvester is available? Harbor Freight has an 13,000W 240V/50A genny for $1300, but then you have to mount it and rig up a home L2 charger (another ~$700 just sitting in the box), and still, you're running that thing all night to charge up.

I am interested in the packaging of the Harvester - how much cargo area is it going to eat in my Traveler? And can I change the oil, filters, plugs, service the coolant, etc in my garage?

Agreed - You can do it today, but it doesn't make a ton of sense for many reasons, and agreed, your edge case is a good one for the Harvester.