Head rest angle and seat size comfort

[jdgln]

On the Traveler, please don't keep those headrests at that angle currently being shown which pushes the head down! That is the major mistake that Rivian made with the rear seats in the R2 making it very uncomfortable!

Also, why are these seats so short? It becomes super apparent seeing Kim Java at 5ft 5inches tall is too big for the seats. Her head can't even rest on the headrest when she is sitting up properly. Here is a hint (it is called a head rest not a neck rest).

The seats in both vehicles are too short and don't provide full back support! Another issue that was introduced with the Rivian R2 seats being too small made the seats uncomfortable where they come into contact with the body! The Rivian R1S seats are the right size which everyone I drive around says are comfortable in the first and second rows.

The third row seats need to have a recline function to them to be comfortable. On that note make sure the second row seats are reclinable on the Traveler please! Progress is modernizing old school designs with current tech and practicality!

I am really loving the luxurious and practical details on the Traveler and want it so much more than the Rivian R1S! Hope to see a three row SUV in the future!

The first image below is from Kim Java's interview on the Traveler. The second image is from the Terra. The terra seat height is the worse offender!

 

[J Alynn]

On the Traveler, please don't keep those headrests at that angle currently being shown which pushes the head down! That is the major mistake that Rivian made with the rear seats in the R2 making it very uncomfortable!

Also, why are these seats so short? It becomes super apparent seeing Kim Java at 5ft 5inches tall is too big for the seats. Her head can't even rest on the headrest when she is sitting up properly. Here is a hint (it is called a head rest not a neck rest).

The seats in both vehicles are too short and don't provide full back support! Another issue that was introduced with the Rivian R2 seats being too small made the seats uncomfortable where they come into contact with the body! The Rivian R1S seats are the right size which everyone I drive around says are comfortable in the first and second rows.

The third row seats need to have a recline function to them to be comfortable. On that note make sure the second row seats are reclinable on the Traveler please! Progress is modernizing old school designs with current tech and practicality!

I am really loving the luxurious and practical details on the Traveler and want it so much more than the Rivian R1S! Hope to see a three row SUV in the future!

The first image below is from Kim Java's interview on the Traveler. The second image is from the Terra. The terra seat height is the worse offender!

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Welcome to the community. Keep in mind these are prototypes, nothing moves beyond a bare minimum and things are all being finalized. Having sat in it I can say I personally had no issue with the headrests

 

[cyure]

Having sat in the front and back of the Traveler I was happy with the seats, even though they don’t move.

I’m 5’7” for reference.

 

[jdgln]

Welcome to the community. Keep in mind these are prototypes, nothing moves beyond a bare minimum and things are all being finalized. Having sat in it I can say I personally had no issue with the headrests

j Alynn, why do you keep telling me to keep in mind that these are prototypes? Can you not discern that the whole reason why Scout has this forum and is requesting feedback is that the product is in the development stage? I'm literally stating that these photos and the issues that I am seeing are from the interviews, which means that I know they are prototypes and I understand the development level these vehicles are in. The purpose of this forum is glean feedback from potential customers about the product and the desires that they wish to see to increase the likelihood of success of the product upon launch.

 

[jdgln]

Having sat in the front and back of the Traveler I was happy with the seats, even though they don’t move.

I’m 5’7” for reference.

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Thanks for your feedback cyure! The difference is that I drive for a living and interact with adults and teenagers who are getting exposed to the vehicles that I drive over a 100 times in a week. So, my feedback is based on mass appeal and desire.

As a reference all because something looks good or felt good for a moment is not the same as putting it to use. Putting on high heel shoes for a look and the pain and discomfort that follows is the same as what I am seeing when I look at the chairs and the infotainment center screen, as well as the roof without a sunshade slider. High heels are not designed for practical use, they are designed for a fashionable look,

 

[R1TVT]

I will chime in here since you are new - there have been many discussions about the seats being representative. i think I remember hearing that they even had some stuff custom made last minute for the hockey shoot (awesome ad BTW if you haven't seen it). So, we are all expecting a lot of changes to the seating for production - materials, colors, adjustability and yes, things like headrests.

Also, reminder that Scout can pull a super comfortable headrest from the VW or Porsche bin (for example) and leverage the VW supply chain and partner network. Nobody is expecting an uncomfortable head-rest in production. I would agree the angle looks a bit odd right now.

 

[mrgold35]

Hopefully, Scout will add some adjustability in the angle for the front and rear headrests. It would hard for my wife to wear her hair in a ponytail with that type of headrest angle forward (she is 4'11"). Then, she has the added issue of reaching the pedals and not be inches away from the steering wheel airbag if deployed (adjustable pedals would help). Our two current vehicles have seatbelt pre-tensioners that fire and takes up any slack to pull you back into the front seats to give the airbags more room to deploy and protect properly (Acura MDX/RLX).

 

[cyure]

Hopefully, Scout will add some adjustability in the angle for the front and rear headrests. It would hard for my wife to wear her hair in a ponytail with that type of headrest angle forward (she is 4'11"). Then, she has the added issue of reaching the pedals and not be inches away from the steering wheel airbag if deployed (adjustable pedals would help). Our two current vehicles have seatbelt pre-tensioners that fire and takes up any slack to pull you back into the front seats to give the airbags more room to deploy and protect properly (Acura MDX/RLX).

Yep, ponytails are definitely an issue for us longhaired people. I agree with adjustability.

 

[speedrye]

Are adjustable headrests common any more, or have safety regulations made those more difficult? I'm used to multi-position headrests in older vehicles.

 

[J Alynn]

j Alynn, why do you keep telling me to keep in mind that these are prototypes? Can you not discern that the whole reason why Scout has this forum and is requesting feedback is that the product is in the development stage? I'm literally stating that these photos and the issues that I am seeing are from the interviews, which means that I know they are prototypes and I understand the development level these vehicles are in. The purpose of this forum is glean feedback from potential customers about the product and the desires that they wish to see to increase the likelihood of success of the product upon launch.

To be fair I offered that because there are 1000’s of posts on here many of which go into deep dive, discussion and feedback. These features are missing currently, however many of your concerns have been thoroughly discussed and if you use the search you can find those discussions to understand how others feel about it. You are welcome to keep offering suggestions-I’m certainly not stopping you but since you haven’t extras the related threads I presume you also aren’t aware of the numerous discussions that have been had and numerous answers that have been provided by SM staff. While they may not be covered in a bloggers YouTube videos the information is more than likely already provided here

 

[Scoutsie]

Thanks for your feedback cyure! The difference is that I drive for a living and interact with adults and teenagers who are getting exposed to the vehicles that I drive over a 100 times in a week. So, my feedback is based on mass appeal and desire.

As a reference all because something looks good or felt good for a moment is not the same as putting it to use. Putting on high heel shoes for a look and the pain and discomfort that follows is the same as what I am seeing when I look at the chairs and the infotainment center screen, as well as the roof without a sunshade slider. High heels are not designed for practical use, they are designed for a fashionable look,

Wait… just so I’m clear, you have a business called “adapt2go” and it has nothing to do with usability for the disabled? Do you realized that this is the kind of language that might describe a service for the mobility impaired and that I was very surprised to find out what your business offers has nothing to do with that? I’m not trying to be a gatekeeper, I’m saying that people thinking you sell adaptive devices are going to be confused that you sell watches and wallets.