I know what it’s intended for, as did he but he decided that was more convenient than wearing a seat belt. He was a different kind of person
Shopping for a “new” BEV while waiting for the Scout Traveler BEV.
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I've grown tired of the constant prosyletizing from the anti-buttoners. It doesn't seem worth engaging. They don't seem to care to learn about why the buttons are useful to people who use their vehicles differently from them.
Regardless, I believe I may have found a solution to GM's mistake of removing the Start/Stop button. I may be able to install the equivalent of that button back in the vehicle. It may cost me a few hundred dollars, but it'll be worth it.
Other than that one issue, the vehicle is performing quite well. We're definitely happier with it than we would have been with any other option available today; other than the Lightning, the Silverado so far (after ~500 miles of driving) is far superior for our use than any other truck on the market.
Not really. My experience with the sw stack so far is far superior to any other truck on the market. I hated Rivian's software. Ford's was slow, though functional. Chevrolet is simply suffering from a mistake in interface design by having removed the Start/Stop button.
If you need a reason to be in Pasadena on 10 or 11 October, here it is:
JPL is restarting its open house. You’ll need free tickets. They become available on 29 August at 09:00 in California. They’ll be fully booked within a few minutes.
JPL’s open house is finally coming back again. Here’s how to get free tickets to the NASA tradition.
The overwhelmingly popular Pasadena-area tradition will return in the fall of 2026.
Ooh, thanks for the heads up! I live about 25 miles from Pasadena and have the ticket date in my calendar now. Can’t wait!If you need a reason to be in Pasadena on 10 or 11 October, here it is:
JPL is restarting its open house. You’ll need free tickets. They become available on 29 August at 09:00 in California. They’ll be fully booked within a few minutes.
JPL’s open house is finally coming back again. Here’s how to get free tickets to the NASA tradition.
The overwhelmingly popular Pasadena-area tradition will return in the fall of 2026.www.timeout.com
I’m jealous!
I got to visit the JPL site in Santa Clara with a work colleague…
They told me it was an old airship hangar!
It was pretty large!
Oh yes, that must have been at Moffett Field, I used to live near that hangar 20 years ago. Went there once during an airshow. To say it was cavernous would be like saying Ton 618 is a large black hole
Oh yes, that must have been at Moffett Field, I used to live near that hangar 20 years ago. Went there once during an airshow. To say it was cavernous would be like saying Ton 618 is a large black hole
I lived just down the road/across the road from Moffet Field for a few years. Close enough that I could hear the wind tunnel spin up at night when I had the windows open, and I rode past it on my bike when I commuted to work, or when I did workout rides on the MUT nearby.
I had a work colleague who used to work at Moffet, and still had friends there. He gave my wife and I a tour of the facility, and we got to walk through the wind tunnel. And by "walk through" I mean, we got to walk through the turbine blades. They're around 4.5-5ft tall each IIRC, and the wind tunnel drew something like 6MW of power at full tilt.
I can't find our photo right now, but it was these ones.
Now that’s a woodworkers dust collector!
That might even collect the wood as well
Absolutely, along with you and your table saw as wellThat might even collect the wood as well
Nice color. Maybe consider a 1994+ Land Cruiser. We have a 91 and love it but it has the lower powered 3FE in it, but super reliable and have 266,000 miles. Easy to maintain, great 4WD even in stock form. Center diff and plenty of clearance without a lift.
If only it didn’t run on ICE
I have less than no interest in an internal combustion engine. I grew up building them; I spent almost 50 years getting greasy, usually out of necessity, sometimes for pay, often for “fun." If someone offered to pay me to take and maintain a vehicle with an ICE, I’d have to have a strong reason not to turn it down unless I was allowed to convert to electric. There’s zero benefit to me to driving a gassy vehicle. They’re not even fun to work on anymore; there’s nothing interesting or exciting about them; there’s nothing new for me to learn.
My family had a 1960s Toyota FJ40 with the 2F engine. It was didn’t last very long at our ranch, for various reasons.
I had a 1989 Toyota Pickup with the 22RE engine. It was bullet proof.
I had a 2007 Toyota Tacoma with the 1GR-FE engine. It was bullet proof.
I had a 2019 Toyota Tacoma with the 2GR-FKS engine. Its transmission was crap and the engine was so underpowered it couldn’t pull a rabbit out of a wet paper bag without approaching the red line. It was great at hauling and off-road adventures, but it couldn’t do 30% of the work I needed it to do. I replaced it with a Lightning and it was the first time I was happy to get rid of a Toyota pickup.
Once I was done with gas vehicles, I kept hoping Toyota would offer an electric Tacoma. But they kept failing to do so, so I gave up on waiting. I would still prefer to drive a Tacoma-sized pickup rather than an F-150-sized truck. But until someone offers a capable electric midsized pickup, I’m stuck with the Silverado.
Would you even consider that new low cost Ford pickup?
I will believe the Ford pickup exists when it’s on lots and being sold. If it meets our needs, we’d consider it, but I don’t trust Ford or their dealers, so it would have to be a phenomenal deal, and we’d probably buy it used.
BUT.
It’s my partner’s turn next, so when the Mustang hits 100k miles (in the next year or two), she’ll be the one picking which vehicle to buy. She’s tempted by the R2, a used Gravity, a used 2025+ R1S, or a Traveler. But the Traveler and the R1 are both wider than she would prefer. And the subscription model for software in the Rivians is a huge barrier for her. We’ll see what else is out there when the time comes. She doesn’t have much interest in us owning two pickups—no need for redundant capabilities, so the Ford isn’t on our radar right now.
Just so she's aware, the subscription model for software is not mandatory - you get SW updates automatically without the subscription.
The Rivian subscription plan is for additional Connect+ features, so if she doesn't need in-truck WiFi or streaming or find value in the other things below, she can just skip Connect+ altogether:
She is well aware. And it’s not a compelling argument.
Sorry, was trying to be helpful so she didn't think it was a barrier, since you do get Software updates without a subscription!
She is frustrated with the way car manufacturers are installing hardware (increasing R&D and hardware cost), passing cost on to the customer and then charging a second time (subscription) for its use. She’s already annoyed with Ford for making the non-optional option of the BlueCruise hardware bump up the cost of our Mustang and then charging a subscription for it (and integrated navigation and a few other things). We’ve let the trial expire; no point in falling for the sunken costs fallacy.
Manufacturers shouldn't be making those of us who don’t want all that subsidize it for those who do. Vehicles without that hardware could easily be $2500-$5k cheaper if they only charged the people who wanted it instead of distributing the costs to everyone. Even if we don’t subscribe to yet another “only $15/mo,” we’re still paying for it. At that point, we’d rather not even buy the vehicle.
Hoping Scout doesn’t do it this way.
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