Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

[robothero]

My wife drives a Volvo XC90. I always pictured the Traveler as an XC60 (or I guess EX60 now) alternative.

But the XC90 is only 5 inches longer than the Traveler without the spare. The R1S is only 9 inches longer without the spare.

These two cars are $62k (the electric EX90 is $79k) and $77k base respectively.

 

[Schmeegz]

This is actually a concern and a reason I may pass on the Scout Terra and hope for something smaller in the 2nd generation

Fortunately someone already did the comparison to the Scout II, see here:

Thread 'Scout Dimensions Updated On Our Website'

Nov 1, 2024

We have updated the dimensions of the concept vehicles on our website to be clearer. I would only add that while these concepts are 85-90% accurate, there could be minor changes with the production models (different side mirror designs, overall height that varies with wheel and suspension setup, etc.,etc.).

TRAVELER:

TERRA:

• Jamie@ScoutMotors
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Which I will summarize for myself and may update if I find more accurate data later, or with the dimensions of my garage which my Scout II fits in, but I am very doubtful the new Terra will fit.

Dimensions in Inches	Terra (2027?)	My Scout II (1973?)
Length	229.2	166.2
Wheelbase	148.6	100
Width without mirrors	79.9	70
Width with mirrors	91.6	about 86
Height with roof rails	77.7	About 75

Also, I realize people want their full size trucks. One thing I haven't fully digested is that going from a Subaru Outback to a Ioniq 5, the use of space in the EV is just somehow more efficient so even though the car is physically smaller, I really haven't had as much degradation in cargo capacity as I feared. The only thing is if I need to transport something longer then the folded down back seat cargo area dimensions, but in a truck with an open bed this should not be an issue, just let it extend over the tailgate or temporarily add a lumber rack, like in the olden days.

Full size for me.... after years and years in Jeep Wranglers, the cabin just isn't that comfortable. Feel the same way in mid-size trucks or several of the crossover suv's my wife has had. The only othrer options are F-150 lightning (discontinued) and the Cybertruck, which just sits too low for my liking (after 25 mph = 95% of driving).

My wife gets the 2 car garage in the winter so I am a driveway guy regardless, and let's be honest... 2 car garages really don't fit 2 cars all that well, especially when you have lawn equipment, snow blower, tools, racks for other outdoor stuff that stay out there, etc.

 

[robothero]

Comparison sorted by length

Vehicle	Length (inches)	Base MSRP (USD)
Scout Traveler (w/ spare)	207.9	~$60,000 (target)
Rivian R1S	200.8	~$78,000
Tesla Model X	198.3	~$86,000
Volvo EX90	198.3	~$76,000
Volvo XC90	195.0	~$57,000
Scout Traveler (w/o spare)	190.9	~$60,000 (target)
Tesla Model Y	187.0	~$40,000
Rivian R2 (upcoming)	185.6	~$45,000
Volvo XC60	185.4	~$47,000
Volvo EX60 (upcoming)	~181–185 (est.)	~TBD (~$55k–$65k est.)

 

[jeremydunworth]

Full size for me.... after years and years in Jeep Wranglers, the cabin just isn't that comfortable. Feel the same way in mid-size trucks or several of the crossover suv's my wife has had. The only othrer options are F-150 lightning (discontinued) and the Cybertruck, which just sits too low for my liking (after 25 mph = 95% of driving).

My wife gets the 2 car garage in the winter so I am a driveway guy regardless, and let's be honest... 2 car garages really don't fit 2 cars all that well, especially when you have lawn equipment, snow blower, tools, racks for other outdoor stuff that stay out there, etc.

We are a one car garage. One of the costs of living in San Diego.

I guess I better measure the driveway and see if I can even fit without blocking the sidewalk, otherwise the only option is parking on the street, which is doable but a pain for charging from the garage.

 

[strider]

Woah. Thank you @robothero. I hadn't realized that the 208" number for the Traveller was with the spare. That had caused me to wonder why they didn't add a 3rd row but now it makes sense. So it's actually 8" shorter than my Model X. Interesting....

 

[robothero]

Woah. Thank you @robothero. I hadn't realized that the 208" number for the Traveller was with the spare. That had caused me to wonder why they didn't add a 3rd row but now it makes sense. So it's actually 8" shorter than my Model X. Interesting....

I didn't even think to include the X/Y in there, I'm going to update with those two added.

 

[cyure]

Woah. Thank you @robothero. I hadn't realized that the 208" number for the Traveller was with the spare. That had caused me to wonder why they didn't add a 3rd row but now it makes sense. So it's actually 8" shorter than my Model X. Interesting....

Yes 190 without the tire carrier and add 17 inches with it so 207. Basically the length of a 4Runner and then add a tire carrier on the back.