Key Fob question

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I like a backup, that being said in 65,000 miles and over 3 years in my Tesla I've never had to use it but it's nice to have just in case something happens. I hope Scout have a similar card type access so it can just fit in my wallet like a credit card (or let you pick either card or key). I don't have to carry any actual keys on me now so I wouldn't want to have to start again with the Scout.
I still have a few keys so since I have them the fob doesn’t bother me and I’m rocking the scout orange leather key tab my daughter made me for Christmas so I think of her everytime I pull out my keys
 

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I hope this is just a option that they'll make available and that they still provide actual fobs. I often go running on trails. I don't take my phone with me. I leave it in the car. Same for when I go hiking. I usually don't get cell service on the trails, anyway,. I'd rather not risk dropping or losing my phone when I'm out on the trails. I can easily stash the fob somewhere hidden on the outside of the vehicle, so I don't have to worry about losing the fob. Can't really stash a phone, nor would I want my phone to be out in the elements in the event it starts raining.

Yep.

Also, not everyone wants to leave bluetooth enabled on their phone all the time.

Fobs are simple. But credit card style access keys could be another good option.
 
I still have a few keys so since I have them the fob doesn’t bother me and I’m rocking the scout orange leather key tab my daughter made me for Christmas so I think of her everytime I pull out my keys
I used to have my keys like that, and my buddy only has a fob but 12+ Keychains, when I got the charger with its push button start, I moved my keys to multi key holder that acts like a Swiss knife, and I keep those in my Everyday Cary bag that mostly stay under the false floor in my truck and my fob rides on me in a small pocket, while it’s cold it stay in a arm zipper on my hoodie and in the warmer months it goes in the phone pocket on my underarmor legs
 
Tesla had a start stop button in there early years.
Sorta. Since it was based on the Lotus Elise it used the same physical key mechanism. Tesla was running on a shoe string back then so they used as much Lotus stuff as they could since it was already DOT approved. But from the first Model S in 2012 they have never had a start/stop button. Chevy has removed them in their current models. They are literally unnecessary.
 
I never really worried about loosing my keys when kayaking. The key was fastened to a D-ring, inside a pocket in my PFD. About the only way I was going to loose it was to loose a PFD I was wearing, and that would only happen in situations that are worse than loosing the key.

FOBs on the other hand are kind of allergic to being submerged. Now something getting soaked on a kayak takes a lot more effort to prevent. Dry bags can leak - dry boxes can break. Plus I really don't want to leave my vehicle in a parking lot with a FOB inside of it (but that is my best option - hide it inside the vehicle, hopefully in a radio dead zone). Then only carry the physical key, or with my Ford use the keypad.

FWIW, one of my 2 Ford FOBs is dead, as is one of my 2 VW FOBs. Both water damage. Washing machine not kayaking unfortunately.
 
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They are literally unnecessary.
I think the problem could lie with people adjusting & coming from other vehicles with a START button.

We have come a long way in a relatively short period of time. If you haven't owned an EV with a modern SW stack that includes configurable settings to accommodate many different preferences, people may not realize it is unnecessary (until they own a BEV).
 
I think the problem could lie with people adjusting & coming from other vehicles with a START button.

We have come a long way in a relatively short period of time. If you haven't owned an EV with a modern SW stack that includes configurable settings to accommodate many different preferences, people may not realize it is unnecessary (until they own a BEV).
While I daily drive an EV with all the modern conveniences, I also enjoy my 1987 Jeep Comanche. It is amazing what all is automated these days. In the Jeep there is no key fob, the locks are completely manual, the windows are manual, the headlights are manual, the wipers are manual, no cruise control besides a steady foot, no lane keeping besides a steady hand and fresh suspension (that does require grease), no one pedal driving, no screen, etc.
 
I think the problem could lie with people adjusting & coming from other vehicles with a START button.

We have come a long way in a relatively short period of time. If you haven't owned an EV with a modern SW stack that includes configurable settings to accommodate many different preferences, people may not realize it is unnecessary (until they own a BEV).
It’s interesting, we will be leasing a Lexus RZ end of month when the one we want arrives. $7500 off and lease rate is .00001% so my wife is trading the pilot with the thought that this will encourage us to learn then help decide if BEV for my Scout or Harvester. Anyway, they include the start button and our sales guy who it the dealership EV/Hybrid “expert” said most their buyers, including us really like the start button. He said they made the conscious decision to add the button for the one half of the argument on this thread. The RZ was a EV specific car so they had a choice but felt it suits their buyer demographic. Just a FWIW.
 
It’s interesting, we will be leasing a Lexus RZ end of month when the one we want arrives. $7500 off and lease rate is .00001% so my wife is trading the pilot with the thought that this will encourage us to learn then help decide if BEV for my Scout or Harvester. Anyway, they include the start button and our sales guy who it the dealership EV/Hybrid “expert” said most their buyers, including us really like the start button. He said they made the conscious decision to add the button for the one half of the argument on this thread. The RZ was a EV specific car so they had a choice but felt it suits their buyer demographic. Just a FWIW.
Oh how exciting! What color? You have to let us know how the transition to EV goes and what your wife thinks. I’m very curious.
 
I think the problem could lie with people adjusting & coming from other vehicles with a START button.

We have come a long way in a relatively short period of time. If you haven't owned an EV with a modern SW stack that includes configurable settings to accommodate many different preferences, people may not realize it is unnecessary (until they own a BEV).
But this can open it’s own can of worms, because unless people experience a car without the start/stop button they’ll think it’s just the typical way, they still to need experience it to understand it’s not necessary. Personally I think it would be better to yank that band-aid now on current EVs compared to 5+ years down the road when people think EVs need the button because it’s what they’re used to, but that’s just my opinion
 
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Oh how exciting! What color? You have to let us know how the transition to EV goes and what your wife thinks. I’m very curious.
Metallic white. The other colors we preferred in the desired trim level were damn near impossible to get hold of. Will give some updates. The other nice thing with the RZ is it is pedal and brake only, no one pedal so makes for easy transition. Has paddle shifting for regen as well as a setting for more/less regen but car seems to drive just like an ICE drives as far as muscle memory’ is concerned.
The other cool thing they did in car is when you go to get out the have typical handle but instead of pulling like a traditional handle you push it to release/open door which is cool because it’s all one motion rather than pulling then push door open this push/push in one continuous motion. I like that function a lot and would suggest it for SM and @CP1@scoutmotors. Intuitive and makes using even easier
 
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RZ is it is pedal and brake only, no one pedal so makes for easy transition. Has paddle shifting for regen as well as a setting for more/less regen
Help me understand this implementation... If you have enough Regen, you should be able to drive one-pedal, no? Do you have to engage the paddle every time you want to slow down with Regen? My impression with paddles was that you could use them to set the amount of Regen and that Regen remained "ON" with that setting, but maybe I am confused!

(I don't have Regen on paddles in the R1T, and usually just keep the Regen setting static, and rarely hit the brake pedal)
 
Help me understand this implementation... If you have enough Regen, you should be able to drive one-pedal, no? Do you have to engage the paddle every time you want to slow down with Regen? My impression with paddles was that you could use them to set the amount of Regen and that Regen remained "ON" with that setting, but maybe I am confused!

(I don't have Regen on paddles in the R1T, and usually just keep the Regen setting static, and rarely hit the brake pedal)
Learning it as we had just the initial drive. There is a setting to adjust and paddles can regen. The brakes will regen based of setting but obviously not to the extent one pedal will regen do to the resistance and the way Lexus is set up. I’m still doing research as we wait on the vehicle to arrive
 
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