Is there anything SM could offer to get you to switch from EREV to BEV?

[Firemedic2714]

The irony is, if you’re in a rural area, you’re more likely to be able to charge at home, so you’d never need a fast charger anyway. If you’re not traveling outside the area you’ve circled, charging at home is more than sufficient, and if you do travel outside that area, there’s lots of chargers available.

@oldgeeksguide When I leave for the day, I’m gone, multiple towns, rinks, winter driving, and no ability to leave the vehicle at a charger. If charging existed at places like rinks or school lots where we actually spend time, I’d seriously reconsider. Until then, the Harvester setup fits my reality.

 

[LastDayScout]

Honestly not sure yet. It’ll depend on the electrical setup and install cost. Home charging would help, but with my back-and-forth between towns and rinks in winter, it doesn’t fully solve the mid-day charging reality out here.

Let me start by saying I am not trying to be a jerk. I am simply trying to help you understand that you may have more options than you think. Do you know how many miles your daily round trip and extra trips are?

The Scout may very possibly include what is called a flexible fast charger (portable). It has a pigtail cord that can be switched from 110v to 220v. They can typically supply about 7kW if you plug it into a 220v outlet like a clothes dryer would use. It is typical practice to charge to 80% of full capacity for day to day use. The Scout EV is estimated to have about a 120kW battery pack, that should give at total range of about 350 miles. So you are typically only going to charge up to to about 96kW of the battery capacity for an estimated range of 280 miles. Yes, that is in temperate weather. Let's be conservative and say it is winter in Massachusetts and temps are below freezing you can take about a 25% hit. So, 280 becomes 210 miles. If you have a garage for the Scout, that may be slightly higher as the battery wont get as cold over night. Now, to charge from 0 miles (which you won't) to 96kW or 80% should take about 13-15 hours on the portable charger. So, that is basically overnight especially if you plug in with anything over zero miles of range left. Now, if you install a wall charger and you have a 40a breaker available (again conservative), that will allow for 32a charging and cut the time down to just 3 hours to go from 0 to 80%. The price of a good but basic wall charger is about $400-500 plus whatever the electrician charges you to install it. You may very well be able to do this on you own.

All this to say/ask do you drive less than 210 miles per day, in winter, and park overnight between 3-13 hours? If the answer is yes, you can absolutely go fully electric.

 

[OleScout]

Let me start by saying I am not trying to be a jerk. I am simply trying to help you understand that you may have more options than you think. Do you know how many miles your daily round trip and extra trips are?

The Scout may very possibly include what is called a flexible fast charger (portable). It has a pigtail cord that can be switched from 110v to 220v. They can typically supply about 7kW if you plug it into a 220v outlet like a clothes dryer would use. It is typical practice to charge to 80% of full capacity for day to day use. The Scout EV is estimated to have about a 120kW battery pack, that should give at total range of about 350 miles. So you are typically only going to charge up to to about 96kW of the battery capacity for an estimated range of 280 miles. Yes, that is in temperate weather. Let's be conservative and say it is winter in Massachusetts and temps are below freezing you can take about a 25% hit. So, 280 becomes 210 miles. If you have a garage for the Scout, that may be slightly higher as the battery wont get as cold over night. Now, to charge from 0 miles (which you won't) to 96kW or 80% should take about 13-15 hours on the portable charger. So, that is basically overnight especially if you plug in with anything over zero miles of range left. Now, if you install a wall charger and you have a 40a breaker available (again conservative), that will allow for 32a charging and cut the time down to just 3 hours to go from 0 to 80%. The price of a good but basic wall charger is about $400-500 plus whatever the electrician charges you to install it. You may very well be able to do this on you own.

All this to say/ask do you drive less than 210 miles per day, in winter, and park overnight between 3-13 hours? If the answer is yes, you can absolutely go fully electric.

Very informative and logical. For daily commuting within 150 miles, range anxiety is minimal and still leaves room for the classic, “Hun, on your way home can you grab A, B, and C?” for some extra cushion.

 

[cyure]

Very informative and logical. For daily commuting within 150 miles, range anxiety is minimal and still leaves room for the classic, “Hun, on your way home can you grab A, B, and C?” for some extra cushion.

I just want to be able to get to Chicago and back without charging. So max 260 miles. I would just charge to 100% those days and no need to charge on the trip unless it’s really cold. That’s the way I understand it.

 

[Firemedic2714]

Let me start by saying I am not trying to be a jerk. I am simply trying to help you understand that you may have more options than you think. Do you know how many miles your daily round trip and extra trips are?

The Scout may very possibly include what is called a flexible fast charger (portable). It has a pigtail cord that can be switched from 110v to 220v. They can typically supply about 7kW if you plug it into a 220v outlet like a clothes dryer would use. It is typical practice to charge to 80% of full capacity for day to day use. The Scout EV is estimated to have about a 120kW battery pack, that should give at total range of about 350 miles. So you are typically only going to charge up to to about 96kW of the battery capacity for an estimated range of 280 miles. Yes, that is in temperate weather. Let's be conservative and say it is winter in Massachusetts and temps are below freezing you can take about a 25% hit. So, 280 becomes 210 miles. If you have a garage for the Scout, that may be slightly higher as the battery wont get as cold over night. Now, to charge from 0 miles (which you won't) to 96kW or 80% should take about 13-15 hours on the portable charger. So, that is basically overnight especially if you plug in with anything over zero miles of range left. Now, if you install a wall charger and you have a 40a breaker available (again conservative), that will allow for 32a charging and cut the time down to just 3 hours to go from 0 to 80%. The price of a good but basic wall charger is about $400-500 plus whatever the electrician charges you to install it. You may very well be able to do this on you own.

All this to say/ask do you drive less than 210 miles per day, in winter, and park overnight between 3-13 hours? If the answer is yes, you can absolutely go fully electric.

Thanks for the explanation. I appreciate it. I’m not anti-EV, but with 24-hour shifts, winter driving, and tons of time at rinks without chargers, pure electric doesn’t fit my reality yet. If charging existed where I actually spend time, I’d reconsider. Until then, the Harvester makes more sense for my lifestyle.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

No.

 

[LastDayScout]

No.

Would you care to elaborate? Not just for my own curiosity, but also because Scout does read these posts.