Never thought about Stockholm and snow before but having had snow on the ground 5 weeks now and expecting 12” today I can see where northern Midwest could cause that pretty quickly
Is there anything SM could offer to get you to switch from EREV to BEV?
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Granted, 100 degrees with 90% humidity is now my Stockholm lol
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Yet nothing close to where I live. Or my way to work. Maps are cute, but don't reflect the reality of the entire state. The clusters you see are major metro areas, but people forget about the more rural areas. Cool to.see.on highways, what about in between.
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@R1TVT Charger maps look great zoomed out. Real life in central MA looks different.
We’re not driving straight lines across the state. We’re rural routes, dealing with winter range loss, and needing reliable fast charging, not a Level 2 with three other cars waiting.
It’s getting better, but pretending the gaps don’t exist doesn’t make them disappear.
Are you planning to install a charger at home? Sorry if you have already answered this question.
I was just wondering the same thing as that would still solve a lot of the concern
Even with only 200 miles of range, I'm not sure I understand the concern. You could literally drive from Greenfield to Charlton and back again with that range, and there would be no need for a single charge (assuming you left with 200 Miles of range!).
But, with a Scout, we are talking about either an estimated 350 or 500 miles of range (BEV or Harvester) - not 200 miles.
Whether or not there are chargers located around the Quabbin seems like a moot point with that much range. Are you planning to buy a Scout and do not have a home charger? B/C that would definitely change the equation... I don't think that would be a great idea at all.
Honestly, I reserved the BEV initially, (and would take one if there was earlier availability) and as a current Rivian owner it wouldn't be that much of leap other than quite a bit bigger vehicle. However, I love technology and experience the forefront of it so I changed my res to a Harvester instead.
But I could easily be persuaded to change back to a BEV model instead. This is especially true as I have a home charger and tbh it provides nearly all of the driving coverage I need.
But I could easily be persuaded to change back to a BEV model instead. This is especially true as I have a home charger and tbh it provides nearly all of the driving coverage I need.
I switched from Harvester Terra to BEV Terra reservation despite being in a charging desert. (Only one Level II charger in a 40 mile radius)
If I have a Level II installed at home I can get to just about any area that has a decent charging infrastructure. I just need to overcome the irrational anxiety for everyday driving.
Still have a Harvester Traveler reserved as well since it would be used offgrid in remote areas where I know range will really be an issue.
I just switched mine from harvester to BEV. I am tired of the 24-hr news cycle constantly hammering any type of progress against climate change as futile. If Scout over delivers on range I will be thrilled. I still dont like “banning” combustion vehicles and I am glad Scout offers another option but the last straw was the revocation of the EPA’s geenhouse gas findings. If we are ever going to make any progress we have to at least make an effort. I am going to make it work and hope that others can too.
The irony is, if you’re in a rural area, you’re more likely to be able to charge at home, so you’d never need a fast charger anyway. If you’re not traveling outside the area you’ve circled, charging at home is more than sufficient, and if you do travel outside that area, there’s lots of chargers available.
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My 78-yr-old aunt was interested in an EV but insisted that she needed a hybrid because it would be too difficult to charge.
We convinced her to get a used Chevrolet Bolt EUV and if she hated it, she could sell it and get a hybrid.
Every time we go for a drive now, she can't stop talking about how much she loves the car and loves not going to the gas station. She lives in the Los Angeles area, with lots of infrastructure. But she has never used a DC Fast Charger on the car. She's put about 15k miles on it in just over a year of ownership.
She only uses Level 1 charging.
We convinced her to get a used Chevrolet Bolt EUV and if she hated it, she could sell it and get a hybrid.
Every time we go for a drive now, she can't stop talking about how much she loves the car and loves not going to the gas station. She lives in the Los Angeles area, with lots of infrastructure. But she has never used a DC Fast Charger on the car. She's put about 15k miles on it in just over a year of ownership.
She only uses Level 1 charging.
The EUV is also a great first EV, it’s not to different from a normal car and pretty good on range and estimations, not a fast charging car, but I will miss my Bolt once the time comes to trade it it
It's become my go-to recommendation for a used, low-cost vehicle. It's totally useable even without a home charger.
Depending on the market around but the Bolt is a great deal, I was surprised to find a blazer and a lightning for the same or under what I’m paying on my bolt
Most of the people in my circles want a small car. It's just a few people who want a bigger car like the Mustang or Lightning.
My only issue with the bolt isn’t its size but specifically its trunk space, I keep my adapters, roadside emergency kit, and bungee cords in the foam thing in the bottom, I keep a raincoat, heavy jacket, reflective vest, tire inflator and other small things above that, and on the panel above that I keep my groceries and other stuff and it’s just not enough without removing all my roadside stuff and lowering the floor.
But that’s just me. I also bout the roof rails, but can’t mange to buy a rack for it for one reason or another.
Honestly not sure yet. It’ll depend on the electrical setup and install cost. Home charging would help, but with my back-and-forth between towns and rinks in winter, it doesn’t fully solve the mid-day charging reality out here.
@R1TVT I appreciate the perspective. For my situation, rural routes, winter driving, and multiple daily stops, the Harvester setup fits my needs better right now. The thread asked what would get me to change, and that’s honestly where I’m at.
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