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So replace "smoke" with eviscerate.But EV’s don’t burn gas or diesel to be precise
You know what I mean!!But EV’s don’t burn gas or diesel to be precise
Ironically I wasn’t responding to your comment but rather the muscle car drivers that will never consider an EV even though the raw power of EV is superiorYou know what I mean!!
But ironically it worked for your comment tooYou know what I mean!!
1000HP in any vehicle is unnecessary.
I had the Tri-Max R1S. At full launch it was nearly uncontrollable with massive torque steer in the front. I can’t imagine how much worse the new quad is, and since we didn’t take delivery, I’ll never know nor care to find out.
Our eTron is not a HP beast and still burns through tires every 20-30k miles.
I expect our new IX at mid 500s HP will also destroy tires quickly if we’re not careful.
I would much rather the scout remain in the 400-600hp range and have a longer battery range while still being a SUV
I had the Tri-Max R1S. At full launch it was nearly uncontrollable with massive torque steer in the front. I can’t imagine how much worse the new quad is, and since we didn’t take delivery, I’ll never know nor care to find out.
Our eTron is not a HP beast and still burns through tires every 20-30k miles.
I expect our new IX at mid 500s HP will also destroy tires quickly if we’re not careful.
I would much rather the scout remain in the 400-600hp range and have a longer battery range while still being a SUV
It’s better to have and not need, than to need and not have. I’ll take way more horse power than I need for daily driving purposes while knowing it’s there when I want/need it.
I got stuck behind an Audi driver yesterday that wanted to control the speed limit for everyone in the left lane, and wanted nobody to pass. You know the "thou shalt not pass type", you use your blinker get over in the right lane since they aren't leaving the left lane (when you have an opening) and they suddenly accelerate up to the next vehicle to prevent you from getting by, then slow way down again. LOL. The nice thing about HP and instant torque is that you can blow by those chowder heads in 1/2 a second and then resume normal driving. Great for passing, acceleration for merging onto HWY's and just nice to have if/when you need access to that power.
It's scary-good how fast & nimble an EV truck can be, but you need to use that power with care and respect - trucks are heavy and larger than sports cars (even if they can drive like one). Everyone that has advocated for a "teenager drive-mode setting" so far is 100% right. With such power comes great responsibility.
I don't care about 0-60, and 3 seconds is crazy fast in a truck - but instant torque in the middle of the power band right when you need it is something I will never complain about. This is probably the best representation of what it is like to have that power and control:
It's scary-good how fast & nimble an EV truck can be, but you need to use that power with care and respect - trucks are heavy and larger than sports cars (even if they can drive like one). Everyone that has advocated for a "teenager drive-mode setting" so far is 100% right. With such power comes great responsibility.
I don't care about 0-60, and 3 seconds is crazy fast in a truck - but instant torque in the middle of the power band right when you need it is something I will never complain about. This is probably the best representation of what it is like to have that power and control:
This. My current company car is an Audi Q6 eTron quattro (basically a mid-size SUV) and it does 0-60 in about 4.5 seconds. I've owned motorcycles throughout my life, and a sport bike/super bike will reset your expectations on acceleration forever. That said, my Q6 is *way* more than adequate at 4.5 seconds 0-60. Honestly, slinging something that heavy so quickly down the road feels a bit nutty. Any passenger is shocked. And in the end, it is a heavy vehicle that isn't a sports car - so while acceleration is really quick, the handling and braking (while decent) are still contained in an SUV with a higher center of gravity. It is hard to describe, but you do half feel like you are just hanging on for the ride when you hammer on it. Flex your big toe on the highway, and you go from 70-90mph in what feels like half a second. All fun, but you could get in over your head very quickly.
Myself being new to EVs will need to re-learn a few things. Should't take to to many miles. Hopefully, all without incident.
AND most AT and AS tires for trucks come from the factory underinflated—at best, they’re also usually underspecced—for “sports car” behaviors. A big 35” or 33” AT tire on a 20” or 18” wheel flexes wildly and unpredictably while under lateral acceleration. Straight-line acceleration in safe environments is fun. Taking a turn can get real scary real quickly if you’re not used to high acceleration, torque vectoring, and wobbly tires.
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Good solution is don't take off around a corner ;p
That would definitely be more pronounced on 18's with those KO3's!
Why? It's an SUV designed to go off-road.
I have a 2017 Land Rover Discovery Td6 which offers 0-60 in about...you know what? I don't care. It's quick enough to get out of its own way, but what it *does* offer is gobs of torque and a low range transfer case and locking diffs for effortless go at 10,000+ off-road feet. There, I care about going 0-5 mph over anything.
I have a Polestar 2 which does 0-60 in 4 seconds or so, soon to be replaced by something else with a manual transmission and a gas engine that does the same thing in about the same time, but in a more fun manner.
Let Rivian and Tesla drag race to 60. Scout doesn't need to do that.
I get where you're coming from, but many of us transitioning from Teslas and Lightnings are looking for a vehicle that can deliver both performance and utility. There's no harm in letting Scout offer a range—slower aka maybe larger battery models for those who prefer that, and sportier versions for those who want more punch. Options for the buyer.
One could argue that Scout is in competition with Rivian, and therefore needs to match most performance numbers. Most vehicles are bought with emotion (sure there’s some practicality mixed in too). If I’m spending $50,000 plus on a vehicle, it has to excite me. Look at Honda and Toyota. For years the Camry and Accord were cheap $20,000 commuters. Today they are much better designed, and performance numbers are better (the price has gone up too). Most people buying a new vehicle want to enjoy what they drive.
Sine they are electric isnt it just the nature of the beast. They are just crazy fast and have incredible torque.
It’s been mentioned multiple times but to me the concern with that torque and power and a novice driver or a traditional vehicle driver is that it’s a higher center of gravity, though I know the weight of batteries below will offset that but it’s a very heavy brick flying down the road so hopefully the dare devils understand their brakes before the get too far ahead of themselves. Rear ending a mid size sedan in a high speed Scout will likely involve fatalities of the vehicle hit. Fun on a back road is always enjoyable and gets the adrenaline flowing but with others on the road the Scout could become a death machine if not handled properly. But I don’t think 2 or 3 tenths of a second should be a make or break deal for an off road SUV
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