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[J Alynn]

Interesting

"No Larger Than a Briefcase": Horse Powertrain Unveils 161-Horsepower Engine That Fits Any Electric Vehicle Platform - LeftLaneNews

In an era when the automotive industry is steering towards electrification, a new development from Horse Powertrain is causing a stir. The company, known for

leftlanenews.com

 

[SrfnFly227]

Interesting

"No Larger Than a Briefcase": Horse Powertrain Unveils 161-Horsepower Engine That Fits Any Electric Vehicle Platform - LeftLaneNews

In an era when the automotive industry is steering towards electrification, a new development from Horse Powertrain is causing a stir. The company, known for

leftlanenews.com

Crazy how fast this thread moves. Saw your post and thought I just posted that myself. It was 17 pages ago

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

This isn’t new, but I figured I’d share it here instead of resurrect one of the acceleration threads.

In 2023, Motor Trend took their Lightning to the track and got in trouble because they weren’t wearing head protection required for vehicles that have a high acceleration.

Our Ford F-150 Lightning Is Too Fast for the Drag Strip

Old-school Ford fans adored seeing the Blue Oval’s first fully electric F-150 Lightning pickup launch down the same strip as purpose-built drag cars.

www.motortrend.com

 

[J Alynn]

Crazy how fast this thread moves. Saw your post and thought I just posted that myself. It was 17 pages ago

Totally missed yours. Sorry for the repeat

 

[SrfnFly227]

Totally missed yours. Sorry for the repeat

No need to apologize. You posted a different article from a different source and as I said, it was 17 pages ago. With as many articles that are posted in this thread, it's really easy to miss things.

 

[dreamweaver]

This isn’t new, but I figured I’d share it here instead of resurrect one of the acceleration threads.

In 2023, Motor Trend took their Lightning to the track and got in trouble because they weren’t wearing head protection required for vehicles that have a high acceleration.

Our Ford F-150 Lightning Is Too Fast for the Drag Strip

Old-school Ford fans adored seeing the Blue Oval’s first fully electric F-150 Lightning pickup launch down the same strip as purpose-built drag cars.

www.motortrend.com

That was a fun read. Stay tuned plenty more to come.

 

[cyure]

Is this common, that an EV beats range expectations?

The Cadillac Optiq Just Crushed Its EPA Range Figure In A Real-World Test

Edmunds put the Cadillac Optiq through the ringer in a new range test and found that it easily beat out its official range estimates. Here's by how much.

insideevs.com

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Is this common, that an EV beats range expectations?

The Cadillac Optiq Just Crushed Its EPA Range Figure In A Real-World Test

Edmunds put the Cadillac Optiq through the ringer in a new range test and found that it easily beat out its official range estimates. Here's by how much.

insideevs.com

Only if the test involves different parameters. Note that a slower, more constant speed will give the best range. Edmund’s does 60% city, 40% highway. The EPA test (one of them, anyway), is more like 45% city, 55% highway (with a bunch of additional weirdness that the manufacturers lobbied for, including the fact that the test is run on a dynometer so air resistance doesn’t matter).

I regularly get about 2.5 miles/kWh in my Lightning on the freeway at 72 mph. With my 131 kWh battery, that’s 328 miles range. The EPA estimated range is 320 miles. In my rural “town,” with few stops and speeds between 35 and 55, my range is closer to 400 miles. In Los Angeles, when I stick to the 35 mph streets without stops, I can get more than 1000 miles range. Similarly with our Mustang. The EPA estimate is 312 miles; we can easily get 320-340 on the freeway and closer to 400 in town.

I run the tires at near max pressure (about 50 PSI) instead of the 36 PSI recommended by Ford. I don’t mind the slightly increased harshness of the ride. That higher pressure reduces rolling resistance quite a bit. I don’t do a lot of speed changes while on the freeway. I don’t live in an extreme cold area, and I rarely run either the AC (I’m a desert rat) or the heat.

Others with the same truck might get 2 miles/kWh (or 260-ish miles range) or less. They might be running lower pressure in their tires, live where it gets extremely cold, drive more aggressively, etc., etc., etc.


Here’s the Edmunds report for all the vehicles they’ve tested:

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html#chart

 

[Hedrock]

Only if the test involves different parameters. Note that a slower, more constant speed will give the best range. Edmund’s does 60% city, 40% highway. The EPA test (one of them, anyway), is more like 45% city, 55% highway (with a bunch of additional weirdness that the manufacturers lobbied for, including the fact that the test is run on a dynometer so air resistance doesn’t matter).

I regularly get about 2.5 miles/kWh in my Lightning on the freeway at 72 mph. With my 131 kWh battery, that’s 328 miles range. The EPA estimated range is 320 miles. In my rural “town,” with few stops and speeds between 35 and 55, my range is closer to 400 miles. In Los Angeles, when I stick to the 35 mph streets without stops, I can get more than 1000 miles range. Similarly with our Mustang. The EPA estimate is 312 miles; we can easily get 320-340 on the freeway and closer to 400 in town.

I run the tires at near max pressure (about 50 PSI) instead of the 36 PSI recommended by Ford. I don’t mind the slightly increased harshness of the ride. That higher pressure reduces rolling resistance quite a bit. I don’t do a lot of speed changes while on the freeway. I don’t live in an extreme cold area, and I rarely run either the AC (I’m a desert rat) or the heat.

Others with the same truck might get 2 miles/kWh (or 260-ish miles range) or less. They might be running lower pressure in their tires, live where it gets extremely cold, drive more aggressively, etc., etc., etc.


Here’s the Edmunds report for all the vehicles they’ve tested:

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html#chart

Thanks for sharing your RW usage. Do you see unusual tire wear running at those pressures?

 

[cyure]

Wow, I don’t know how I feel about that.

The Porsche Cayenne EV Skipped An Entire Prototype Stage Thanks To AI

The electric Cayenne was the first Porsche built without early prototypes. Virtual prototypes on digital test drives did the work instead.

insideevs.com

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Thanks for sharing your RW usage. Do you see unusual tire wear running at those pressures?

Not at all on the Mustang.

The Lightning’s OEM tires, Hankook Dynapro AT/2 are absolute garbage and there are a ton of reports that they’re wearing poorly for a lot of people, both with the Lightning and with gas F-150s and at all pressures. I’ll keep them until they’ve worn out, which I expect in less than 15k miles (I’m at 22k right now). I will probably get a set of 18” wheels and put smaller LT all-season tires on for my highway and non-winter driving and get a set of winter tires to put on the 20” wheels. Both sets of tires will be truck tires, not car tires scaled up to fit a truck.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Wow, I don’t know how I feel about that.

The Porsche Cayenne EV Skipped An Entire Prototype Stage Thanks To AI

The electric Cayenne was the first Porsche built without early prototypes. Virtual prototypes on digital test drives did the work instead.

insideevs.com

Not that I have ever wanted a Porsche, but knowing this means I wouldn’t even want to be near one on the freeway.

 

[chucchinchilla]

Wow, I don’t know how I feel about that.

The Porsche Cayenne EV Skipped An Entire Prototype Stage Thanks To AI

The electric Cayenne was the first Porsche built without early prototypes. Virtual prototypes on digital test drives did the work instead.

insideevs.com

Porsche spending more time refining their designs digitally before making prototypes seems like a more efficient use of resources and makes it easier to implement improvements. Remember they're still doing prototypes, just not early stage ones.

 

[J Alynn]

Only if the test involves different parameters. Note that a slower, more constant speed will give the best range. Edmund’s does 60% city, 40% highway. The EPA test (one of them, anyway), is more like 45% city, 55% highway (with a bunch of additional weirdness that the manufacturers lobbied for, including the fact that the test is run on a dynometer so air resistance doesn’t matter).

I regularly get about 2.5 miles/kWh in my Lightning on the freeway at 72 mph. With my 131 kWh battery, that’s 328 miles range. The EPA estimated range is 320 miles. In my rural “town,” with few stops and speeds between 35 and 55, my range is closer to 400 miles. In Los Angeles, when I stick to the 35 mph streets without stops, I can get more than 1000 miles range. Similarly with our Mustang. The EPA estimate is 312 miles; we can easily get 320-340 on the freeway and closer to 400 in town.

I run the tires at near max pressure (about 50 PSI) instead of the 36 PSI recommended by Ford. I don’t mind the slightly increased harshness of the ride. That higher pressure reduces rolling resistance quite a bit. I don’t do a lot of speed changes while on the freeway. I don’t live in an extreme cold area, and I rarely run either the AC (I’m a desert rat) or the heat.

Others with the same truck might get 2 miles/kWh (or 260-ish miles range) or less. They might be running lower pressure in their tires, live where it gets extremely cold, drive more aggressively, etc., etc., etc.


Here’s the Edmunds report for all the vehicles they’ve tested:

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html#chart

So if that is true for you-and it’s your use case-I get that, why is everyone else constantly saying we’ll only get 75-80% of the range listed? Presume this is all driving habits and terrain. If my daily commute is like 7 miles round trip with one hill that is probably 120’ vertical grade change and rest is relatively flat and all 35-40 mph and I’m not pounding the peddle I’d assume I’ll probably do well over listed range

 

[J Alynn]

Not that I have ever wanted a Porsche, but knowing this means I wouldn’t even want to be near one on the freeway.

I’ll stick to my goal of a used 718 convertible. Will be interesting to see how that exercise pans out. I see a lot of Cayennes around my area

 

[J Alynn]

Porsche spending more time refining their designs digitally before making prototypes seems like a more efficient use of resources and makes it easier to implement improvements. Remember they're still doing prototypes, just not early stage ones.

Good point. Another year and they’ll all be designed with AI and vehicle designers will be unemployed

 

[cyure]

I’ll stick to my goal of a used 718 convertible. Will be interesting to see how that exercise pans out. I see a lot of Cayennes around my area

There’s so many Cayennes in town. I see multiple everyday. That and Corvettes for some reason. I was told it’s because the local Chevy dealer owner really likes Corvettes so he gets lots of them to sell.

 

[cyure]

Good point. Another year and they’ll all be designed with AI and vehicle designers will be unemployed

But then you will get nothing new and innovative. AI can only pull from what exists. We need human imagination to keep getting things that wow us.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

But then you will get nothing new and innovative. AI can only pull from what exists. We need human imagination to keep getting things that wow us.

This.

 

[J Alynn]

There’s so many Cayennes in town. I see multiple everyday. That and Corvettes for some reason. I was told it’s because the local Chevy dealer owner really likes Corvettes so he gets lots of them to sell.

I’ve never been a corvette fan other than the vintage classics