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But then you will get nothing new and innovative. AI can only pull from what exists. We need human imagination to keep getting things that wow us.
Not disagreeing. I just see the bean counters eventually saying-like every other industry-that AI is the solution. AI can’t do logical Archie plans either so I’m safe for now 😀
 
So if that is true for you-and it’s your use case-I get that, why is everyone else constantly saying we’ll only get 75-80% of the range listed? Presume this is all driving habits and terrain. If my daily commute is like 7 miles round trip with one hill that is probably 120’ vertical grade change and rest is relatively flat and all 35-40 mph and I’m not pounding the peddle I’d assume I’ll probably do well over listed range
I have been playing the mileage game (almost but not quite hypermiling) since I’ve been driving. When I was a preteen, a brother-in-law died and my sister gave me his old Mercury Cougar XR7 that wasn’t running. I rebuilt it, but couldn’t afford gas for it. You could watch the gas needle drop as you drove. That experience made me super conscious of efficiency and I’ve always done what I could to squeeze every last bit of distance out of the vehicle’s available energy.

I think a lot of it is driving style. There are a lot of people who have very aggressively stated to me that they would NEVER be caught going 72 mph on the freeway! Okay…

I also don’t feel the need to push the high acceleration capabilities more than a few times before I just drive.

I also push the pressure up higher than OEM recommendations (because I know they recommend lower pressure for ride quality and it’s not as big a deal to me). A lot of people aren’t aware of how much that impacts efficiency.

I think a short commute with a relatively reasonable acceleration behavior will get you decent efficiency. In PA, you may experience less range in the winters due to cold and maybe needing snow tires.
 
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I am curious why the Canoo was one there since they have had major fianncial woes and arent building anything.
Not at all on the Mustang.

The Lightning’s OEM tires, Hankook Dynapro AT/2 are absolute garbage and there are a ton of reports that they’re wearing poorly for a lot of people, both with the Lightning and with gas F-150s and at all pressures. I’ll keep them until they’ve worn out, which I expect in less than 15k miles (I’m at 22k right now). I will probably get a set of 18” wheels and put smaller LT all-season tires on for my highway and non-winter driving and get a set of winter tires to put on the 20” wheels. Both sets of tires will be truck tires, not car tires scaled up to fit a truck.

I hate the manufacturers still use soft compound tires to beat the drive by sound measurement requirements and cushion the ride.

I am willing to bet if you bought another set of the same tires they will last significantly longer because OEMs purchase special tires from tire manufacturers to meet those requirements and make the cab quieter on test rides.


 
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I hate the manufacturers still use soft compound tires to beat the drive by sound measurement requirements and cushion the ride.

I am willing to bet if you bought another set of the same tires they will last significantly longer because OEMs purchase special tires from tire manufacturers to meet those requirements and make the cab quieter on test rides.

Yeah. The problem is that Hankook agreed to the spec sheet from Ford and I’m skeptical of their products now. This is despite knowing that they were special-orders by Ford to meet those requirements. Because of the poor quality of this product, I don’t really want to buy another set of Hankooks for the Lightning. I might consider them for the Mustang in the future, but they lost me as a truck tire customer.

First impressions and all that—I don’t recall having Hankooks before this.
 
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So if that is true for you-and it’s your use case-I get that, why is everyone else constantly saying we’ll only get 75-80% of the range listed? Presume this is all driving habits and terrain. If my daily commute is like 7 miles round trip with one hill that is probably 120’ vertical grade change and rest is relatively flat and all 35-40 mph and I’m not pounding the peddle I’d assume I’ll probably do well over listed range
Another point I forgot to mention: I live at about 7000 feet elevation. The air here is about 20-25% lower density than at sea level, which means I experience about 20-25% less drag. That adds up over time and distance.
 
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