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[SpaceEVDriver]

So if that is true for you-and it’s your use case-I get that, why is everyone else constantly saying we’ll only get 75-80% of the range listed? Presume this is all driving habits and terrain. If my daily commute is like 7 miles round trip with one hill that is probably 120’ vertical grade change and rest is relatively flat and all 35-40 mph and I’m not pounding the peddle I’d assume I’ll probably do well over listed range

I have been playing the mileage game (almost but not quite hypermiling) since I’ve been driving. When I was a preteen, a brother-in-law died and my sister gave me his old Mercury Cougar XR7 that wasn’t running. I rebuilt it, but couldn’t afford gas for it. You could watch the gas needle drop as you drove. That experience made me super conscious of efficiency and I’ve always done what I could to squeeze every last bit of distance out of the vehicle’s available energy.

I think a lot of it is driving style. There are a lot of people who have very aggressively stated to me that they would NEVER be caught going 72 mph on the freeway! Okay…

I also don’t feel the need to push the high acceleration capabilities more than a few times before I just drive.

I also push the pressure up higher than OEM recommendations (because I know they recommend lower pressure for ride quality and it’s not as big a deal to me). A lot of people aren’t aware of how much that impacts efficiency.

I think a short commute with a relatively reasonable acceleration behavior will get you decent efficiency. In PA, you may experience less range in the winters due to cold and maybe needing snow tires.

 

[cyure]

I’ve never been a corvette fan other than the vintage classics

There’s so many new ones in town and at the local cars & coffee there’s identical ones. Same color I don’t like that.

 

[Chavannigans]

Electric Delivery Van Range Comparison 2025: Fleet Range Performance

Thinking of switching to electric delivery vans in 2025? I’ve tested the Ford E-Transit, Rivian, Mercedes eSprinter, BrightDrop, and Canoo in real-world conditions. Get the honest range numbers, cold-weather insights, and fleet-tested tips that cut through the marketing spin.

motorwatt.com

I am curious why the Canoo was one there since they have had major fianncial woes and arent building anything.

Not at all on the Mustang.

The Lightning’s OEM tires, Hankook Dynapro AT/2 are absolute garbage and there are a ton of reports that they’re wearing poorly for a lot of people, both with the Lightning and with gas F-150s and at all pressures. I’ll keep them until they’ve worn out, which I expect in less than 15k miles (I’m at 22k right now). I will probably get a set of 18” wheels and put smaller LT all-season tires on for my highway and non-winter driving and get a set of winter tires to put on the 20” wheels. Both sets of tires will be truck tires, not car tires scaled up to fit a truck.

I hate the manufacturers still use soft compound tires to beat the drive by sound measurement requirements and cushion the ride.

I am willing to bet if you bought another set of the same tires they will last significantly longer because OEMs purchase special tires from tire manufacturers to meet those requirements and make the cab quieter on test rides.

Are Your Factory Tires Good Enough? (OE vs OEM Tires)

The tires on new vehicles are not always the best. Find out if your factory, OE tires are sufficient or not at TireMart.com!

www.tiremart.com

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I am curious why the Canoo was one there since they have had major fianncial woes and arent building anything.

I agree. I was confused by this as well. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that some or a lot of that article was ai generated.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I hate the manufacturers still use soft compound tires to beat the drive by sound measurement requirements and cushion the ride.

I am willing to bet if you bought another set of the same tires they will last significantly longer because OEMs purchase special tires from tire manufacturers to meet those requirements and make the cab quieter on test rides.

Yeah. The problem is that Hankook agreed to the spec sheet from Ford and I’m skeptical of their products now. This is despite knowing that they were special-orders by Ford to meet those requirements. Because of the poor quality of this product, I don’t really want to buy another set of Hankooks for the Lightning. I might consider them for the Mustang in the future, but they lost me as a truck tire customer.

First impressions and all that—I don’t recall having Hankooks before this.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

So if that is true for you-and it’s your use case-I get that, why is everyone else constantly saying we’ll only get 75-80% of the range listed? Presume this is all driving habits and terrain. If my daily commute is like 7 miles round trip with one hill that is probably 120’ vertical grade change and rest is relatively flat and all 35-40 mph and I’m not pounding the peddle I’d assume I’ll probably do well over listed range

Another point I forgot to mention: I live at about 7000 feet elevation. The air here is about 20-25% lower density than at sea level, which means I experience about 20-25% less drag. That adds up over time and distance.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Fascinating report. I’m not sure where they get their data from, but at first glance it feels accurate.

The EV range report - Xweather

Discover how weather & road conditions affected EV range across the contiguous US over the course of a year.

www.xweather.com

Here’s a daily EV range animation:

https://stream.mux.com/MmQ1ZAEQi2bGhG9bMxblG7tsZariutID.m3u8?redundant_streams=true

 

[Logan]

Fascinating report. I’m not sure where they get their data from, but at first glance it feels accurate.

The EV range report - Xweather

Discover how weather & road conditions affected EV range across the contiguous US over the course of a year.

www.xweather.com

Here’s a daily EV range animation:

https://stream.mux.com/MmQ1ZAEQi2bGhG9bMxblG7tsZariutID.m3u8?redundant_streams=true

What is that link?

Its wanting to download something, and call me skeptical, but... decades of training are telling me "DON"T CLICK ON THAT LINK AND SAVE IT"

 

[dreamweaver]

Fascinating report. I’m not sure where they get their data from, but at first glance it feels accurate.

The EV range report - Xweather

Discover how weather & road conditions affected EV range across the contiguous US over the course of a year.

www.xweather.com

Here’s a daily EV range animation:

https://stream.mux.com/MmQ1ZAEQi2bGhG9bMxblG7tsZariutID.m3u8?redundant_streams=true

Wow! Xweather is a fun site. going to take minute to digest. Thanks for the cool find.

 

[dreamweaver]

What is that link?

Its wanting to download something, and call me skeptical, but... decades of training are telling me "DON"T CLICK ON THAT LINK AND SAVE IT"

Just go to xweather.com and you can look at all they have to offer. It is pretty cool.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

What is that link?

Its wanting to download something, and call me skeptical, but... decades of training are telling me "DON"T CLICK ON THAT LINK AND SAVE IT"

Good instincts. Don’t download nothin’.

Which link is giving you this? I’ll try to fix it in the OP.

 

[dreamweaver]

Kia says 'a cheap' $25,000 EV could come one day, but it will depend on this

Kia is launching several lower-priced electric vehicles, but an even more affordable one, starting at about $25,000, could be in...

electrek.co

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

I’ve never been a corvette fan other than the vintage classics

‘63 split-window—Period!

 

[J Alynn]

‘63 split-window—Period!

He’ll-yeah!

 

[dreamweaver]

‘63 split-window—Period!

That was a sweet car. Unfortunately, those out corvettes didn't handle very well. That was okay though because they looked like they were going fast standing still.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Wow, I don’t know how I feel about that.

The Porsche Cayenne EV Skipped An Entire Prototype Stage Thanks To AI

The electric Cayenne was the first Porsche built without early prototypes. Virtual prototypes on digital test drives did the work instead.

insideevs.com

I’m sure they’ll pass the savings on to us . . .

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

So if that is true for you-and it’s your use case-I get that, why is everyone else constantly saying we’ll only get 75-80% of the range listed? Presume this is all driving habits and terrain. If my daily commute is like 7 miles round trip with one hill that is probably 120’ vertical grade change and rest is relatively flat and all 35-40 mph and I’m not pounding the peddle I’d assume I’ll probably do well over listed range

Okay, real-world driving experience just now.

I just got home from a board meeting. 7.2 miles each way. Mostly through town, with stoplights, construction, etc., but with a short stretch on Route 66 at 55 mph.
On the way there, I got about 2 miles/kWh. Average speed on the way there was 27 mph.
On the way home, I got 5.1 miles/kWh. Average speed on the way back was 23 mph.
Average efficiency was 3.55 miles/kWh.
At an average of 3.55 miles/kWh (if this was how all my trips were, which is obviously nonsense), I would get 465 miles of range.

Elevation change was 6914 feet - 6626 feet = 288 feet. Elevation profile attached.

I forgot to grab a photo of the trip meter on the way there. Here’s the one for the trip back.

 

[cyure]

My county. Excellent!

14 new EV charging stations coming to McLean County near Interstates 55 and 74

Fourteen new electric-vehicle charging stations are coming to gas stations and a restaurant in McLean County, as part of a second round of federal grants aimed at bolstering EV charging capacity along interstate corridors.

dlvr.it

 

[THil08]

Ford announces move to new headquarters, Glass House to be demolished

The company is moving from the iconic Glass House to a new 2.1 million-square-foot world headquarters closer to Greenfield Village, about a mile away from the Glass House.

www.wxyz.com

 

[Chavannigans]

Ford announces move to new headquarters, Glass House to be demolished

The company is moving from the iconic Glass House to a new 2.1 million-square-foot world headquarters closer to Greenfield Village, about a mile away from the Glass House.

www.wxyz.com

Every end has a beginning.

Every beginning has an end.

Ford Suspends F-150 Production Amid Supplier Plant Fire

A supplier plant caught fire on May 2, affecting output of Ford’s F-Series pickup trucks.

www.motortrend.com

It happened again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/f150/s/rSFsXZpJJ2

Firefighters battle 3-alarm fire at Novelis aluminum plant in Oswego County

Around 20 fire departments responded to the aluminum plant Tuesday night.

www.syracuse.com