What is one feature you hope Scout will include that has not yet been shown?

[cgapperi]

Posted some of these on another forum:

Android Auto (or Car Play) - love having always up-to-date maps and traffic, as well as my choice of music apps on my phone.
Adaptive Cruise Control
Heated Steering Wheel
Rain Sensing wipers
Auto headlights/auto high beam

Pro Power Onboard equivalent - looks like they have something similar, but it will be curious to see how it compares to the 7.2kw Ford offers, and if the generator can help power this like the Ford when the truck is "off", esp during long workloads or powering a house during extended power outages, or to power a camper when boondocking - want it to allow harvester to basically turn the truck into a mobile generator as long as I have gas. I do like that there are outlets both inside and outside the bed - being able to have a bed secured (with a cover) and still use those outlets is pretty cool. Hoping it will be a pure sine wave vs modified sine wave inverter. If it's *only* an inverter off the battery and harvester isn't part of the equation, that would severely limit it's usefulness.

Tailgate Features:
- tailgate step for getting in and out of the bed (though steps molded into the corner of the bumper would be an acceptable alternative, or mount points for something like an aftermarket AMP retractable corner step)
- Openings for clamps, molded in ruler, cup/phone holder, etc to make it a more usable workspace. I think Scout is positioned more as an offroader than a worksite truck, but why can't we have both?
- Tailgate down reverse camera
- Lighting for hooking up a trailer in the dark

Power running boards
360 cameras
Bed lighting

Tow Mirrors (Terra) - not sure if I would prefer larger mirrors like on my F150, or some way that the regular mirrors can extend out for towing.

"Drive Modes", like a lot of other cars have. Something like this:
- "Eco mode" - turn off harvester, limit max speed/acceleration, lower suspension (if that's available), etc to maximize EV range
- "Normal mode" - the already stated 150 miles of EV range, then harvester kicks in for additional 350 miles
- "Max Range/Tow mode" - harvester always runs to continuously charge/reduce battery consumption (if I can extend the range with multiple gas fillups before the battery needs a rechange for long/remote trips, esp while towing, that would be ideal)
- "Charge mode" - park it but let Harvester run to charge the battery
- etc

You forgot 'Sport' mode.

 

[cyure]

You forgot 'Sport' mode.

Actually my husband and I were discussing modes the other day and would my Scout have a sport mode. That’s just not something I associate with a vehicle like this.

I always have questions. Does the Lightning or a Rivian have a sport mode. I always think of sport mode as tightening up the steering and suspension and making it harsher so to speak and more power. And in our two ICE vehicles that have sport mode the exhaust noise gets noticeably louder, especially my son’s Elantra N. I can hear him coming home before he even turns onto our street. I’m sure the neighbors love us. What would we expect sport mode to do in our Scouts and how would that be an advantage? Besides just being fun.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Actually my husband and I were discussing modes the other day and would my Scout have a sport mode. That’s just not something I associate with a vehicle like this.

I always have questions. Does the Lightning or a Rivian have a sport mode. I always think of sport mode as tightening up the steering and suspension and making it harsher so to speak and more power. And in our two ICE vehicles that have sport mode the exhaust noise gets noticeably louder, especially my son’s Elantra N. I can hear him coming home before he even turns onto our street. I’m sure the neighbors love us. What would we expect sport mode to do in our Scouts and how would that be an advantage? Besides just being fun.

I have answers. Maybe the answer will match the question.

The Lightning has Sport Mode.
Note that because the truck is drive-by-wire, the response rate and feel of the steering can be adjusted by changing the in-steering motor feedback torque and rate. Such an adjustment wouldn’t be possible in a vehicle without drive-by-wire unless there are mechanical adjustments that can be made on the fly.

Here’s the Sport Mode description:

For sporty driving with improved performance handling and response. This mode increases accelerator pedal responsiveness and provides a stronger deceleration rate when you lift your foot off the accelerator pedal for a spirited driving experience. Powertrain tuning is altered to maximize performance traction and steering feel is altered to have more torque buildup enhancing driver connectivity and feedback.

 

[J Alynn]

My household has iPhones and Android devices. I love how my EV6 says, "I got you" seamlessly when connecting either type of device.

That’s a cool feature. Wish the wireless charger would do that in my Honda so I didn’t have to look for the tiny charging symbol on the screen

 

[maynard]

My household has iPhones and Android devices. I love how my EV6 says, "I got you" seamlessly when connecting either type of device.

iPhone and Android are like religious wars around my house! Definitely would like both supported... (personally I'd go back to that skinny Motorola Razor that fit neatly into my pocket!)

 

[dreamweaver]

iPhone and Android are like religious wars around my house! Definitely would like both supported... (personally I'd go back to that skinny Motorola Razor that fit neatly into my pocket!)

That Razor was a great phone I still have this one in a box somewhere in the house.

 

[J Alynn]

That Razor was a great phone I still have this on in a box somewhere in the house.

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I tell who the older members are-myself included. I miss the flip phone era

 

[cyure]

I tell who the older members are-myself included. I miss the flip phone era

I had a Sony flip phone in like 1994 or 1995. It had a little tiny plastic antenna you had to pull up. The youngs don’t know how easy they have it.

 

[dreamweaver]

I had a Sony flip phone in like 1994 or 1995. It had a little tiny plastic antenna you had to pull up. The youngs don’t know how easy they have it.

Of course as it turns out some of those phones back then were frying our brains. And I thought it was the 70's that did that.

 

[maynard]

Of course as it turns out some of those phones back then were frying our brains. And I thought it was the 70's that did that.

I think it was the brick phones (I remember reading that they transmitted near 1 watt - new phones transmit at less than 1/4 watt)

But yes, some frying has occurred...

 

[wadeivy]

A critical flaw in the entire EV market is longevity and resale value. To my knowledge, no manufacturer has created a cost efficient way to replace old batteries. For an off-road vehicle and legacy brand like Scout, being able to invest in a vehicle that you can enjoy for more than 5 years is a critical requirement for many of us. Why would someone buy an expensive vehicle that you want to customize with after-market additions, that will be a shell of itself in 5-6 years due to the waning battery life? Finding a cost-effective solution to battery replacement (less than $5K) would be a game changer, not just in the off-road world, but in the EV market at large.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

A critical flaw in the entire EV market is longevity and resale value. To my knowledge, no manufacturer has created a cost efficient way to replace old batteries. For an off-road vehicle and legacy brand like Scout, being able to invest in a vehicle that you can enjoy for more than 5 years is a critical requirement for many of us. Why would someone buy an expensive vehicle that you want to customize with after-market additions, that will be a shell of itself in 5-6 years due to the waning battery life? Finding a cost-effective solution to battery replacement (less than $5K) would be a game changer, not just in the off-road world, but in the EV market at large.

You must be new to the EV world and must have come from the anti-EV world. There aren’t any modern EVs that have waning battery life in 5-6 years.

 

[dreamweaver]

A critical flaw in the entire EV market is longevity and resale value. To my knowledge, no manufacturer has created a cost efficient way to replace old batteries. For an off-road vehicle and legacy brand like Scout, being able to invest in a vehicle that you can enjoy for more than 5 years is a critical requirement for many of us. Why would someone buy an expensive vehicle that you want to customize with after-market additions, that will be a shell of itself in 5-6 years due to the waning battery life? Finding a cost-effective solution to battery replacement (less than $5K) would be a game changer, not just in the off-road world, but in the EV market at large.

Scout. “People. Connections. Community. Authenticity." Welcome to the Scout community. Enjoy the ride.
Remember the built in search on the forums is a great place to start getting answers to your many questions.

 

[cyure]

A critical flaw in the entire EV market is longevity and resale value. To my knowledge, no manufacturer has created a cost efficient way to replace old batteries. For an off-road vehicle and legacy brand like Scout, being able to invest in a vehicle that you can enjoy for more than 5 years is a critical requirement for many of us. Why would someone buy an expensive vehicle that you want to customize with after-market additions, that will be a shell of itself in 5-6 years due to the waning battery life? Finding a cost-effective solution to battery replacement (less than $5K) would be a game changer, not just in the off-road world, but in the EV market at large.

Welcome to the community. The search function is very helpful and there’s lots and lots of information on here from members who have lots of experience with EVs, and who are very educated on the batteries. It’s very worthwhile to take the time to go through some of the threads from these members. Have fun searching.

 

[J Alynn]

A critical flaw in the entire EV market is longevity and resale value. To my knowledge, no manufacturer has created a cost efficient way to replace old batteries. For an off-road vehicle and legacy brand like Scout, being able to invest in a vehicle that you can enjoy for more than 5 years is a critical requirement for many of us. Why would someone buy an expensive vehicle that you want to customize with after-market additions, that will be a shell of itself in 5-6 years due to the waning battery life? Finding a cost-effective solution to battery replacement (less than $5K) would be a game changer, not just in the off-road world, but in the EV market at large.

Oh-boy. You just opened a can of learn something new

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

A critical flaw in the entire EV market is longevity and resale value. To my knowledge, no manufacturer has created a cost efficient way to replace old batteries. For an off-road vehicle and legacy brand like Scout, being able to invest in a vehicle that you can enjoy for more than 5 years is a critical requirement for many of us. Why would someone buy an expensive vehicle that you want to customize with after-market additions, that will be a shell of itself in 5-6 years due to the waning battery life? Finding a cost-effective solution to battery replacement (less than $5K) would be a game changer, not just in the off-road world, but in the EV market at large.

We are at a point where we have Tesla models with first-generation battery technology that are pushing into their 15th year of age. Battery life is affected less by physical age, but rather what kind of life the battery had (charged with high-capacity superchargers often versus at home charging less frequently), chemistry type and size. Even with all that, battery degradation isn't as prominent as many people thought and most of those Teslas (10-15 years old) are still out on the road running fine - albeit with a little less capacity than new.

The newer battery electric vehicles coming out have improved chemistry, much better battery management software and we're learning best practices to keep batteries happy. Point being, full battery replacements shouldn't have to be a thing.

 

[dreamweaver]

We are at a point where we have Tesla models with first-generation battery technology that are pushing into their 15th year of age. Battery life is affected less by physical age, but rather what kind of life the battery had (charged with high-capacity superchargers often versus at home charging less frequently), chemistry type and size. Even with all that, battery degradation isn't as prominent as many people thought and most of those Teslas (10-15 years old) are still out on the road running fine - albeit with a little less capacity than new.

The newer battery electric vehicles coming out have improved chemistry, much better battery management software and we're learning best practices to keep batteries happy. Point being, full battery replacements shouldn't have to be a thing.

Case in Point

CATL launches the world's first LFP battery with 470+ miles range and 10-minute charging

The EV battery giant is unlocking more driving range and faster charging, but without the hefty price tag. CATL launched...

electrek.co

 

[J Alynn]

Case in Point

CATL launches the world's first LFP battery with 470+ miles range and 10-minute charging

The EV battery giant is unlocking more driving range and faster charging, but without the hefty price tag. CATL launched...

electrek.co

Eventually would be nice to see a U.S. company announce a legitimate break through in battery tech that is scalable

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

We are at a point where we have Tesla models with first-generation battery technology that are pushing into their 15th year of age. Battery life is affected less by physical age, but rather what kind of life the battery had (charged with high-capacity superchargers often versus at home charging less frequently), chemistry type and size. Even with all that, battery degradation isn't as prominent as many people thought and most of those Teslas (10-15 years old) are still out on the road running fine - albeit with a little less capacity than new.

The newer battery electric vehicles coming out have improved chemistry, much better battery management software and we're learning best practices to keep batteries happy. Point being, full battery replacements shouldn't have to be a thing.

Additionally:
Every EV sold in the US has a battery warranty for 70-80% of certified-new range for 100,000 miles and 8 years.

And every vehicle I’ve seen has a fairly straightforward replacement procedure. It’s not nearly as complex and problematic as replacing a transmission or engine in an ICE. It requires smart people to read and follow the instructions, but it’s not complex.

We’ve put ~80k miles on our vehicles since 2022. Most of those miles are from road trips. We’ve done literally hundreds of DCFC charging sessions. We’re still getting the same range we got when we bought the vehicles. More, really, because we’ve learned to drive in ways that extend range without compromising our driving fun.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Eventually would be nice to see a U.S. company announce a legitimate break through in battery tech that is scalable

Sigh.

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