Self-driving integration with Open Pilot.

[MicroBiom]

I know that Chevy, Ford, and Ram (among a lot of other brands) have their own Hands Free Driving. I’ve seen some videos on it, and it’s interesting. The wife and I recently spent a week on San Juan Island, and getting there is a 550 mile drive and then an hour-ish ferry ride. Somewhere between Ritzville and Ellensburg, WA I started to wonder if the hands free driving would be nice? I guess it could reduce some fatigue, but if you’re still watching the road and paying attention, how much difference would it make versus hands on driving with the cruise set? I guess it would make opening a soda easier.

This is a video from Ram’s YouTube channel on how their system works. It’s kind of interesting.

So I have a Ford F-150 hybrid now that has the copilot assist 2.0. which means I have to keep pressure on the steering wheel constantly. I drove a 2024 with blue crews where you didn't have to touch the steering wheel if you're on a road with two lanes heading the same direction. I will tell you that either one of the systems help reduce fatigue greatly. I didn't realize how big of an issue that was going to be until I actually had the ability to use it. And now I don't want to be without it. I'll be sure to update this post with the Open Pilot comma 3x as it is supposed to be much better than fort blue cruise. I received the hardware on Monday and when I have time to install that I will.

 

[MicroBiom]

And just for the record. I appreciate all the input opinions and discussion on these forms. I am very happy to see that Scott motors has representatives paying attention to the forms and that they are participating. Thank you all.

 

[N Wilson]

They can test it. Open Pilot is only the second largest automated driving system in the world. And I will have their equipment and their open software in my truck monday. Once again in case you missed it you don't have to download the software. But having that capability and having camera systems built into run it would be great.

Does Open Pilot use lidar, or just cameras and AI like Tesla?

Asking as someone new to the self driving tech, but curious to learn about it

 

[THil08]

 

[Scoutsie]

And just for the record. I appreciate all the input opinions and discussion on these forms. I am very happy to see that Scott motors has representatives paying attention to the forms and that they are participating. Thank you all.

Again, I get that you are into OpenPilot, but a search of the forums will reveal discussions about this and people on this forum have very mixed opinions on it:

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Thread 'Suggestion: Autonomous Driving Mode'

Dec 18, 2024

For those who have tried out the latest Tesla full self driving version (13), autonomous driving can improve driver safety and free up the driver's mental state on long road trips.

If would be great to have Scout license another company's ADAS, and offer it as a subscription. Those who want it can use it, and those who prefer to be in control can continue enjoying the driving they love.

• Darren James
• Replies: 44
• Forum: GENERAL DISCUSSION

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Thread 'Do You Want Your Scout To Have A Hands-Free Driving System?'

Jan 24, 2025

Do You Want Your Scout To Have A Hands-Free Driving System?

I do NOT want my Scout to drive itself.

Part of owning a hands-on vehicle would be the satisfaction of tactile power over your destiny while enjoying the ride.

If I wanted a robo-car then I could buy a future Rivian.

Reuters
Rivian to launch hands-free driving system in 2025, 'eyes-off' in 2026

Rivian to launch hands-free driving system in 2025, 'eyes-off' in 2026, CEO says

(Reuters) -Electric-vehicle maker Rivian plans to launch its advanced hands-free driver assistance systems in 2025 and its "eyes-off" systems in 2026, CEO RJ Scaringe said on Thursday. An advanced driver assistance system that enables drivers to take their hands off the wheel and eyes off the...

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• eddiet1212
• Replies: 43
• Forum: SUGGESTION BOX

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I don’t know if people on this forum are going to truly be representative of everyone who buys a Scout in five years, but these are the discussions that have happened.

 

[Jkew]

Does Open Pilot use lidar, or just cameras and AI like Tesla?

Asking as someone new to the self driving tech, but curious to learn about it

I don’t think open pilot depends on lidar - only radar and cameras.

I think I would prefer a system / car that also used lidar. Lidar would help enormously in low visibility situations and could be used for automatic braking on foggy roads - particularly rural roads where you have deer or elk.

I’m not necessarily interested in autonomous driving in fog - as much as better visibility / safety when driving normally.

comma.ai — make driving chill

comma.ai

 

[Scoutons86]

We currently plan on Level II+ but let's see what happens over the next few years.

I’ll speak for myself here and say that’s perfectly adequate. My Volvo has a somewhat decent lane keep assist (hands on but you can take off for 10 seconds ish). I like the idea of level 2+. There if you want it, but not mandatory or invasive

 

[J Alynn]

I’ll speak for myself here and say that’s perfectly adequate. My Volvo has a somewhat decent lane keep assist (hands on but you can take off for 10 seconds ish). I like the idea of level 2+. There if you want it, but not mandatory or invasive

Agreed. I’m the kind of person that rarely even uses cruise control. If I’m not engaged I lose interest. Can only imagine falling asleep at the wheel driving at night to die in a fiery crash. I like to stay focused and if I don’t have to then I’m going to lose 90% of my focus

 

[cyure]

Agreed. I’m the kind of person that rarely even uses cruise control. If I’m not engaged I lose interest. Can only imagine falling asleep at the wheel driving at night to die in a fiery crash. I like to stay focused and if I don’t have to then I’m going to lose 90% of my focus

Same

 

[N Wilson]

Agreed. I’m the kind of person that rarely even uses cruise control. If I’m not engaged I lose interest. Can only imagine falling asleep at the wheel driving at night to die in a fiery crash. I like to stay focused and if I don’t have to then I’m going to lose 90% of my focus

I would fall into this camp as well, currently. I almost never use cruise control, even on the highway.

This discussion does have me thinking though, that if there was a way to have a system that could satisfy those in the self driving camp without it jacking the price up (using existing sensors/cameras that would be on the vehicle anyway) it could draw in a bigger crowd.

I would definitely want such a system to be optional, or at least have the ability to turn it off, for those of us who wouldn't likely be interested in using it.

 

[Scoutsie]

I would fall into this camp as well, currently. I almost never use cruise control, even on the highway.

This discussion does have me thinking though, that if there was a way to have a system that could satisfy those in the self driving camp without it jacking the price up (using existing sensors/cameras that would be on the vehicle anyway) it could draw in a bigger crowd.

I would definitely want such a system to be optional, or at least have the ability to turn it off, for those of us who wouldn't likely be interested in using it.

Same same. Cruise control freaks me out as a control freak (while I like that it uses energy more efficiently than I would, I don’t trust that it will truly apply the breaks when necessary and such because it’s only ever going to be as good as the AI and AI just ain’t good enough, though I appreciate that lots of money is being thrown at it… it’s replaced biotech as the “research pretty girl,” to cop an expression from my ex-husband, around here).

 

[THil08]

Agreed. I’m the kind of person that rarely even uses cruise control. If I’m not engaged I lose interest. Can only imagine falling asleep at the wheel driving at night to die in a fiery crash. I like to stay focused and if I don’t have to then I’m going to lose 90% of my focus

ADHD kicks in for me if I’m not in control. I start fidgeting with the window switches. I start to tap my foot up against the center console when my cruise control is on.

 

[cyure]

Same same. Cruise control freaks me out as a control freak (while I like that it uses energy more efficiently than I would, I don’t trust that it will truly apply the breaks when necessary and such because it’s only ever going to be as good as the AI and AI just ain’t good enough, though I appreciate that lots of money is being thrown at it… it’s replaced biotech as the “research pretty girl,” to cop an expression from my ex-husband, around here).

Same. I never use cruise control. I’m such a control freak I drive my husband nuts when he’s driving. When we were on our trip cross country we were going over those mountain roads in Colorado up by Vail in rain just ahead of a snow storm in the pitch dark as we had left Colorado Springs at 3 am. I was losing my mind and I’m sure he was ready to leave me by the side of the road. Thank goodness I had the sense to put all season tires on and we weren’t on the stock summer performance tires the Supra came with.

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

“I never use cruise control”

I’m not sure we can all be friends again!

But seriously, nothing drives me crazier than having the cruise set just to have somebody on the interstate pass me, pull in front of me, then slow down. For the love of God and all things Holy, set the freaking cruise control!!!

 

[J Alynn]

“I never use cruise control”

I’m not sure we can all be friends again!

But seriously, nothing drives me crazier than having the cruise set just to have somebody on the interstate pass me, pull in front of me, then slow down. For the love of God and all things Holy, set the freaking cruise control!!!

One of the other reasons I do t use it. That’s when I want a snow blade on front to push them right off the interstate. Not that I condone road rage

 

[MicroBiom]

Does Open Pilot use lidar, or just cameras and AI like Tesla?

Asking as someone new to the self driving tech, but curious to learn about it

It can use both. It can use the vehicles radar sensors and all that that a manufacturer might use for driving assistance or it can just use cameras. They have a comma 3x device that just has cameras and watches your eyes. I'll be installing that device in my F-150. Everyone that's used it says it's way better than Ford blue cruise. So it would be kind of awesome to have a car company that use that as their native driver assistance. Being as it's open source and the way they've done it it can go as far as the capabilities of the hardware of the vehicle. It's pretty interesting. It's from comma.ai it's been an operation since 2016 stable launches came out in 2024. Check it out it's pretty neat.

 

[MicroBiom]

Same same. Cruise control freaks me out as a control freak (while I like that it uses energy more efficiently than I would, I don’t trust that it will truly apply the breaks when necessary and such because it’s only ever going to be as good as the AI and AI just ain’t good enough, though I appreciate that lots of money is being thrown at it… it’s replaced biotech as the “research pretty girl,” to cop an expression from my ex-husband, around here).

I never realized how good it was until I've actually used it. And now I don't want to be without it. It makes things much better. People are worried about falling asleep but you can listen to audiobooks. Mount your phone on your dash where you can see the road at the same time and actually watch TV and YouTube channels while you're driving/riding it's pretty amazing. You can definitely relax a bit.

 

[MicroBiom]

“I never use cruise control”

I’m not sure we can all be friends again!

But seriously, nothing drives me crazier than having the cruise set just to have somebody on the interstate pass me, pull in front of me, then slow down. For the love of God and all things Holy, set the freaking cruise control!!!

Totally agree and adaptive cruise helps with that but super annoying.

 

[MicroBiom]

One of the other reasons I do t use it. That’s when I want a snow blade on front to push them right off the interstate. Not that I condone road rage

Adaptive cruise control makes that not a problem. And the assisted driving takes all that stress away. That's the nicest thing about it. Once people use it and figure that out they'll see how much more relaxing it is to drive long distances. It's incredible how much stress it takes off of you. You don't realize how much it affects you until you start using something like this.

 

[J Alynn]

Adaptive cruise control makes that not a problem. And the assisted driving takes all that stress away. That's the nicest thing about it. Once people use it and figure that out they'll see how much more relaxing it is to drive long distances. It's incredible how much stress it takes off of you. You don't realize how much it affects you until you start using something like this.

Adaptive does slow you down -it’s just annoying and as @04Ram2500Hemi stated it happens too often. I’m sure autonomous has a place for early adopters but I just don’t like it. I look forward to driving. When I don’t feel like it I stay home or tell my wife I’m tired and she drives